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General Discussion / Re: Norwich vs Coventry - Tom Kirk
« on: Mon 26 Jan 2026 20:57 »
Definite red card offence and a ban should be coming for the player, feel a bit sorry for the referee in that situation unfortunately he is human and can’t see everything

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Surely if unintentionally stopping the ball going into the back of the net with the arm in a natural position it would be in the section that defines what a hand ball offence is, if there is no handball offence how can there be a non-deliberate handball offence?

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General Discussion / West Ham V Sunderland - Thomas Bramall
« on: Sun 25 Jan 2026 17:53 »
I thought he had a good game yesterday although reinildo was lucky to be subbed off at half time rather than being sent off for a 2nd yellow offence.

I suppose if we want something more to talk about there was an instance of him waving on the physio’s but the player got up without treatment but was not made to leave the pitch.

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General Discussion / Re: C PAWSON - Arsenal v Man U
« on: Sun 25 Jan 2026 17:46 »
Not too sure that goal should have stood, comes of dorgu’s arm unintentionally then he scores with the next touch

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General Discussion / Re: James Bell - WBA v Norwich
« on: Wed 21 Jan 2026 22:04 »
As someone who complains a lot about time wasting I’m delighted to hear this, well done to the referee

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I have been too negative this weekend, good use of var there to award the penalty for Bournemouth

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General Discussion / Re: Worst performance ever
« on: Mon 19 Jan 2026 20:13 »
It has to be tonight's performance that hasn't happened yet, which will only be the worst one until Saturday, and then whatever our next match day is... Spoken like a true fan of course!!!
I think you will find based on how often discussion occurs here sunderland are the team who always get the worst referees  😀

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I dont think this is just a one off thing the feeling that senegal has, there have been complaints all competition that Morocco have had the rub of the green, I haven't paid enough attention to the games to comment on that.

Not a good advert for Aftican football but it does show maybe we don't have the worst officials including var

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Senegal now walking off

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And now a controversial var review for a penalty

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Very soft to give a foul for that, player moving backwards goes down far too easy.

He blew way too early as well with a header towards goal when var is in use.

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.....about eight minutes from full time there was a collision between a Palace forward and Sunderland defender Omar Alderete which ended up with our defender injured.I sit behind the North Stand goal where the incident occurred and whilst it looked like a flailing arm or hand it was purely unintentional when the contact came.

Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place and he didn't need treatment.

The referee insisted he had a head injury and made him leave the field of play even though he jogged off without any assistance however this left us one man down for thirty seconds.

 What a silly silly thing to do by the referee.

Once the referee authorises treatment the player has to go off, it doesn't matter whether any treatment actually occurs.

.........but the player himself indicated he wasn't injured at all.

What is Robert Jones. A high quality referee or a medical professional ?

Going to have to ask the obvious question, but if he wasn't injured why was he on the floor holding his head?
.....about eight minutes from full time there was a collision between a Palace forward and Sunderland defender Omar Alderete which ended up with our defender injured.I sit behind the North Stand goal where the incident occurred and whilst it looked like a flailing arm or hand it was purely unintentional when the contact came.

Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place and he didn't need treatment.

The referee insisted he had a head injury and made him leave the field of play even though he jogged off without any assistance however this left us one man down for thirty seconds.


"Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place"

 What a silly silly thing to do by the referee.

Once the referee authorises treatment the player has to go off, it doesn't matter whether any treatment actually occurs.

.........but the player himself indicated he wasn't injured at all.

What is Robert Jones. A high quality referee or a medical professional ?

So the player was down with a potential facial injury?  That requires professional medical aseessment.  That means he is going off the field of play for at least 30 seconds.  If he was not requiring treatment, why did he stay down?  Its only an educated guess, but could it have been an attempt to gain an unfair advantage by feigning injury?

edited to fix quote thingamajigga, bmb

As said already we aren’t medical professionals so what’s to say, what I will say though every game there are collisions which are painful then a few seconds later players get up, you can 100% defend it in the laws of the game but when someone with the player is indicating he doesn’t need treatment at the same time someone 15-20 yards away decides they do it isn’t the best look.

If he was worried about time wasting he could have managed it the same way I’ve managed it throughout the match and how it is managed in the premier league these days stand there and just point to the watch

I'm assuming you are not a referee, as if you were you would know that the immediate priority if you see a player down holding their head is to get treatment onto them.  If you are a referee you seriously need to rethink your priorities.

Ok then so Stuart atwell who allowed a Tottenham to counter attack the other week with a player down holding their head on the edge of their box needs to rethink his priorities as well.

Michael Oliver (Man Utd v Liverpool) as well as many other premier league refs as well. You also defended Oliver for making a “judgement call” seems like you’re a bit inconsistent on the issue

I’ve also only said it doesn’t look great not that it was wrong, I also don’t think it’s outrageous to say someone on the scene probably has a better understanding of what’s going on than someone a distance away, what part of that is controversial?

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.....about eight minutes from full time there was a collision between a Palace forward and Sunderland defender Omar Alderete which ended up with our defender injured.I sit behind the North Stand goal where the incident occurred and whilst it looked like a flailing arm or hand it was purely unintentional when the contact came.

Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place and he didn't need treatment.

The referee insisted he had a head injury and made him leave the field of play even though he jogged off without any assistance however this left us one man down for thirty seconds.

 What a silly silly thing to do by the referee.

Once the referee authorises treatment the player has to go off, it doesn't matter whether any treatment actually occurs.

.........but the player himself indicated he wasn't injured at all.

What is Robert Jones. A high quality referee or a medical professional ?

Going to have to ask the obvious question, but if he wasn't injured why was he on the floor holding his head?
.....about eight minutes from full time there was a collision between a Palace forward and Sunderland defender Omar Alderete which ended up with our defender injured.I sit behind the North Stand goal where the incident occurred and whilst it looked like a flailing arm or hand it was purely unintentional when the contact came.

Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place and he didn't need treatment.

The referee insisted he had a head injury and made him leave the field of play even though he jogged off without any assistance however this left us one man down for thirty seconds.


"Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place"

 What a silly silly thing to do by the referee.

Once the referee authorises treatment the player has to go off, it doesn't matter whether any treatment actually occurs.

.........but the player himself indicated he wasn't injured at all.

What is Robert Jones. A high quality referee or a medical professional ?

So the player was down with a potential facial injury?  That requires professional medical aseessment.  That means he is going off the field of play for at least 30 seconds.  If he was not requiring treatment, why did he stay down?  Its only an educated guess, but could it have been an attempt to gain an unfair advantage by feigning injury?

edited to fix quote thingamajigga, bmb

As said already we aren’t medical professionals so what’s to say, what I will say though every game there are collisions which are painful then a few seconds later players get up, you can 100% defend it in the laws of the game but when someone with the player is indicating he doesn’t need treatment at the same time someone 15-20 yards away decides they do it isn’t the best look.

If he was worried about time wasting he could have managed it the same way I’ve managed it throughout the match and how it is managed in the premier league these days stand there and just point to the watch

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General Discussion / Re: Maybe one for the authorities?
« on: Sun 18 Jan 2026 10:52 »
Awful challenge. No place in football. Hopefully he receives a lengthy football ban.
I think you're being generous calling it a challenge.

The police definitely should get involved as well

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.....about eight minutes from full time there was a collision between a Palace forward and Sunderland defender Omar Alderete which ended up with our defender injured.I sit behind the North Stand goal where the incident occurred and whilst it looked like a flailing arm or hand it was purely unintentional when the contact came.

Alderete lay on the pitch for a few seconds and the referee waved on our physio however what happened then was the player got up and pointed at his lower jaw and cheek area where the contact had taken place and he didn't need treatment.

The referee insisted he had a head injury and made him leave the field of play even though he jogged off without any assistance however this left us one man down for thirty seconds.

 What a silly silly thing to do by the referee.

Once the referee authorises treatment the player has to go off, it doesn't matter whether any treatment actually occurs.
It sounds to me that the problem was the rushed decision to wave them on rather than that was wrong in law.

There was one point though that a palace had to leave the field of play to change equipment but that wasn’t actually enforced, it was a weird game, he had some good games previously at the SoL so definitely an exception

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