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General Discussion / Stoke v Middlesbroug - A Herczeg
« on: Wed 21 Jan 2026 21:50 »
A really poor second half showing. His foul detection and cautioning have been all over the place.

A two-footed challenge from Luke Ayling only earns a yellow card. Who is coaching these referees?

The second yellow for Bosun Lawal looks on the harsh side when similar challenges, on the whole, haven't been cautioned.

Not sure how Conway has escaped a card for an SPA offence or delaying the restart.

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General Discussion / Stoke v QPR - M Donohue
« on: Sat 17 Jan 2026 18:55 »
The moderator's might be busy here but I thought Hendo's 'Worst Ref Performance Ever' thread was in relation to Matt Donohue this afternoon.

It was a poor game, where QPR came for a point, but were aided by being allowed to break play up with time-wasting and tactical timeouts - the GK going down 'injured' to get treatment after 20 mins when nobody had been around him.

There were 3 KMIs, all of which he has failed to correctly identify, as he did with a couple of SPA offences, which he didn't caution despite booking players willy-nilly for holding at corners and dissent.

KMI 1: A Sorba Thomas goal-bound header is blocked by Mbengue with his arm in an unnatural position, away from the silhouette. Donohue waved the appeals away and booked Stoke's Cisse for his appeal. At that point, Mbengue had already been booked as well.

KMI 2: Jimmy Dunne's challenge on Mubama that saw him stretchered off with a season-ending injury. Looked pretty poor and gave just a caution.

KMI 3: Richard Kone looks at Ben Wilmot under a high ball then thrusts his elbow into the defender's head. Only a yellow card. Given Tanganga's red for Sheff Utd, this was assault and any professional referee has to spot that it's a red card. 

Donohue's authoritarian style doesn't help. And, for me, he doesn't protect players and is a threat to their wellbeing. That was highlighted by Mubama's season-ending injury.

He also must have had a new watch for Christmas given the amount of times he pointed to it to try and get QPR to move the game along. No sanctions for persistent and obvious time-wasting yet again. Although one of the offenders was Mbengue, so I doubt he wanted to show him the second yellow for that.

For one the supposed top SG2 officials, this was a performance way off what it required at this level. A lot of training required on positioning and identifying the correct sanctions/restarts.

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General Discussion / John Busby: Stoke v Sheffield Utd
« on: Tue 30 Dec 2025 01:02 »
Second time I've seen Mr Busby this season and I've left unsure what is and isn't a foul. He seems willing to allow a high degree of contact but borders on inconsistent foul detection.

There were several queries about this performance. Firstly, there are times that he fails to signal and you're left guessing the restart, especially when balls are being contested.

How many times do you need to warn a GK before actually cautioning them for time wasting? There were three clear warnings for Cooper - one in the first half and two after the break - to hurry the game up. Instead of issuing the caution he stood waving his arm & pointing at his watch.

And a similar point - do referee's actually enforce the 8 seconds for holding onto the ball when in play? There were a couple of occasions I counted 10-12 seconds while it was in Cooper's hands when set, yet watching Busby, he seemed to count down to 1 & 2 seconds then would freeze allowing more than the eight seconds to accrue.

On the red card, I've seen both sets of fans calling it harsh. However, I think it'd be really good to hear the official's audio for this decision for a couple of reasons. From my seat I saw Busby do a couple of things that suggested he was only going to caution Pearson.

His right hand to right side pocket & he pointed to Rigo, suggesting that he was the covering defender. But then reached for his top pocket to brandish the straight red. So, either he's taken advice from AR1 for the red card or swayed after 3/4 Sheff Utd players surrounded him. In real time, the lingering doubt I had was around 'was it an obvious goal-scoring opportunity?' I haven't seen a replay and feel it's in the orange category - some refs would go yellow, while others go red.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 28th Nov - Tue 2nd Dec 2025
« on: Sat 29 Nov 2025 23:43 »
Thought Doughty was pretty poor overall. Lacked any control and his judgement for fouls & contact lacked any sort of consistency.

If you say he remained consistent for not cautioning players for cynical fouls or SPA, then that's a big negative in my book. First 5-10 mins, Ajayi lucky not to see yellow for a trip when he was turned and out of position. Haven't seen the Hull penalty appeal back to comment on. Crooks committed a couple of cynical first-half fouls, yet again, no card & Manhoef will a blatant yellow in the second half not issued either.

Big question marks over the equalise. There's a hint of handball followed by potential offside. The nearside asistant seemed to miss a couple throughout the game as well.

First card for Destan kicking the ball away, yet first half Crooks stood in front of the ball stopping a quick restart, so the Stoke man kicked it off him only for Doughty to give him the talking to. Personally, I felt he lacked any authority and control, which led to the handbags at the end with Lundstrum goading the Stoke fans causing a mass confrontation that had about three different breakouts.

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General Discussion / QPR v Stoke - Tim Robinson
« on: Sat 20 Sep 2025 13:16 »
Not a foul in the first 20 minutes but since then his decision making has been questionable.

Morrison rips the shirt of Mubama's back but Robinson adjudges the striker to have backed in and committed the first foul. Looked harsh.

But how Mbengue is still on the pitch is beyond me. Heavy touch, so goes high into a challenge catching Pearson at the top of the sock and racks his studs down the shin. Robinson stood a couple of yards away only gives a FK. Clear red for SFP but somehow misses it. Suppose it's another member of the SG1 who can't recognise SFP, which is serious concern.

That incident has raised the temperature and has since seen the yellow come out for a cynical Pearson foul and a Norrington-Davies high boot.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 22nd & Sat 23rd AUG 2025
« on: Mon 18 Aug 2025 21:43 »
So far Stoke have had Elliot Bell, James Bell, Lewis Smith and now Josh Smith. So two Bells and two Smiths, which pairing will be next?

They must be readying the Madleys for their next two games? :D

Didn't expect to see Rob Jones being sent to Birmingham. Sure Preston will be thrilled by Donohue, wasn't there a quirky stat last season about his first four red cards in game involving the Lilywhites?

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Select Group 2 / Re: Sat 16th - Sun 17th Aug 2025
« on: Tue 12 Aug 2025 09:31 »
Lewis Smith could have an eventful day.  Wednesday fans protested peacefully at Leicester, I'm far from convinced the same will apply for the first home game and there has been a lot of talk about stopping the game.

Agree with you there. As a Stoke fan, I've seen Wednesday fans telling us not to bother buying tickets (£35). Sounds like part of their protest may involve a pitch invasion, so while it might only be rumour or social media talk, I was expecting a more experienced SG2 official on the game. That said, Lewis Smith always looks to have a calm demeanour if such a situation does arise.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th AUG 2025
« on: Sun 10 Aug 2025 11:37 »
First time seeing Elliot Bell in person yesterday. I can see the makings of a decent referee. He seemed to be a calm and composed figure, dealing with any flash points fairly well and seemed willing to talk to control proceedings.

All three cautions were correct, potential argument that the Wilmot challenge was in the orange category. For that Wilmot incident, he did have a discussion over the comms with his assistant before deciding on yellow.

Overall, a positive showing and can see why he's risen to this level quite quickly.

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Non-League / Re: Pre-Season Friendlies 25/26
« on: Sun 03 Aug 2025 11:19 »
Stoke v Burnley
Referee: Stephen Martin

Let's just say he had a busy afternoon

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Think Seb Hutchinson on comms during Man City v Bournemouth has mentioned this is Derek Eaton's penultimate game. He's retiring after his final game, which was said to be Liverpool v Crystal Palace.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 28th FEB – Tue 4th MAR 2025
« on: Sun 02 Mar 2025 12:16 »
Stoke v Watford - a poor game not helped by a picky Tom Nield giving soft FKs to stop any flow.

In the first 15 minutes, Al-Hamadi rolled Pollock to get goal side and was running towards the area. Pollock wraps both arms around him to haul him to ground. Clear and obvious yellow but Nield only awards a FK.

A similar incident later in the first half when a similar incident of a Watford defend wrapped arms around Moran to stop any forward momentum. This time not even a foul.

Think Team Ref's performance can be summed by what happened in the last 10 mins. Stoke have the ball in the Watford half, pass it back to Phillips stood in their defensive half only for the assistant to flag for offside. No Watford pressure on the passer or near Phillips - a bizarre moment and a new one for me!

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Would be interested to hear the opinions on Reading's penalty at the end of their game. Saw a yellow card was issued to the Rotherham defender.

How is that incident any different to the one in AFC Wimbledon v Crewe in midweek? One sees the perpetrator cautioned, the other sent off. Where's the consistency? 

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General Discussion / Re: Leeds-Millwall (Gavin Ward)
« on: Sat 08 Feb 2025 20:09 »
Ward's failure to be able to spot SPF is a real problem. And some of his appointments always catch me by surprise!

That challenge takes me back to being in the away end at Huddersfield when Koroma got away with a dreadful challenge on Harwood-Bellis. Had to dig it out:https://x.com/SkyFootball/status/1487164547492368387

Remarkably, Ward restarted play with a Huddersfield throw that night.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 17th – Wed 22nd JAN 2025
« on: Wed 22 Jan 2025 21:47 »
It was a disappointing below-par performance from the usually reliable Smith tonight. He'll have to be much better than that on Monday's top-of-the-table game.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 17th – Wed 22nd JAN 2025
« on: Mon 13 Jan 2025 19:22 »
I always thought Scott Oldham was next in line for a place on the SG2 list, but he seems to have fallen down the pecking order with Finnie, Herczeg, and now Speedie, given Championship outings.

No surprise to see David Webb on the Yorkshire derby, he's always a safe pair of hands. Interesting appts for Bell and Backhouse.

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