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Cup Appointments / Re: The EFL Cup (Carabao Cup) – 2025/2026
« Last post by TheThingFromLewes on Mon 26 Jan 2026 17:25 »
Most of the FIFA referees and VAR’s are at a seminar on those days so all the big hitters were out of commission.

Excellent appointments for both of them.
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PS:  If I have read the re-printed extracts of Law 12 (above) correctly, then it appears to have a sanction listed for an offence that is not identified - in the Law - as an offence.

Sloppy drafting / wording leads to law interpretation that could be wrong, confusing or contradictory.  The aim should always be for the interprtation to be correct, clear and unambiguous.
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Firstly, there are two things troubling with this sentence: 

"While we may not like it, ultimately what does football expect here? Personally I suggest football expects that justifiable position or not, that we can't accept that a player can use their arm to prevent a goal being scored".

i) There is too much said about "what football expects" - what football (and any other sport) expects is for the Laws to be clear and correctly enforced.
ii) If the "offence" was not deliberate, then the player did not use their arm to prevent a goal being scored.  The ball hit his arm, that is entirely different.  The ball can hit the goal-post, but that it not a deliberate act by the goal-post!


Secondly, where have we got to in this endless (and futile) attempt to absolutely define hand-ball whereby a referee is announcing to a full stadium (and on Live TV) that no deliberate offence has been commited but he is going to award a penalty kick and caution the player?? 

Please can we stop trying to define everything, revert to simple wording and leave it to the discretion of well trained referees.
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It does feel like the laws have been misinterpreted, hopefully not by the match officials but certainly those supposed experts commenting about it.  There are two decisions to make here, the first is was it intentional handling or was the arm not in an acceptable position for the body movement for that specific action.  At this point whether the ball would have gone into the goal is neither here nor there, it is completely irrelevant.

It only then becomes relevant if they decide to award a penalty.  The wording of the law is confusing because when deciding the sanction it talks about a deliberate or non-deliberate handball offence.  But what it means is if they intentionally handle the ball it is deliberate and would be a red card.  If their arm was not deemed to be in a supportable position that would be classed as non-deliberate and would be a caution.  Think of it like cases such as Suarez or Steven Taylor saving on the line as a red card, whereas a player having their arm out from their body in what is deemed to deemed to be not justifiable for the footballing action being performed would be a yellow, they haven't made a conscious attempt to handle it but had their arm where it shouldn't have been.

But to be absolutely clear, there has to be a handling offence, just because the ball was going on target is not a consideration in deciding whether there has been an offence, it only affects any potential sanction.  The supposed football experts need to read the law again, I really hope the referee and VAR have fallen into this trap otherwise they will be in serious hot water.
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Select Group - Premier League / Re: Sat 31st Jan - Mon 2nd Feb 2026
« Last post by Claretman on Mon 26 Jan 2026 16:59 »

Once again, I will bring up Michael Oliver’s appointments this time. It just seems silly to appoint him Saturday, and with the PGMO knowing he has a champions league appointment, then give him another Saturday game. Just seems poor man management to me.

I would take the opposite view and say if you are in a good run of form you would want to be in the middle at every opportunity. I am sure Mr Oliver would be telling his employers if he felt he needed a break.
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Select Group - Premier League / Re: Sat 31st Jan - Mon 2nd Feb 2026
« Last post by Claretman on Mon 26 Jan 2026 16:57 »
Hey Mr Royalty, hope you've washed that lush purple shirt ready for the weekend!

It might come out a different colour in the wash but i doubt it will be the rag unless the pgmol ask Wolves to play in their away strip.
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I wonder if we have all been mislead and it is guidance from the pgmol to referees in the english competitions to award the penalty kick in such circumstances whether accidental or not? If anyone knows would be interested to hear
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EFL League 1, 2 & National League Prem / Re: Sat 31st JAN – Thu 5th FEB 2026
« Last post by RCG on Mon 26 Jan 2026 16:47 »
Bristol Rovers (First Team) v Walsall FC (First Team)         Live on SkySports
Football League 2   
Referee: Chilowicz, Alex
Assistant Referee: Senior, Mark
Assistant Referee: Morris, Kevin
Fourth Official: Howick, Kevin

Someone explain to Alex who the 2 very nice men (albeit 1 a wee slip of his former self) are in the Bristol dug out.
Although to be fair I rarely understood anything they had to say
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Law is an ass. What if the defender was already on a yellow card? For having his hand by his side he gets red! What could he do? The law needs reconsidering.
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