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General Discussion / Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
« Last post by rustyref on Today at 05:23 pm »
And clubs will now have to pay out in expenses fees if they are not travelling together!

Premier League and Football League referees haven't been allowed to travel together for a long time.  Even if they live in the same town, or even next door to each other, they have to travel on their own.
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I Spy Old Refs! / Re: Referee replaced during matches
« Last post by Timbo on Today at 05:11 pm »
Sunderland v Derby County 01.09.1894

Tom Kirkham (Stoke) was on a delayed train and "wired" ahead to say he would not make the 3.30 start

Therefore local official John Conqueror, who was to become a Football League referee three seasons later,
started the match but not before both sides had lodged formal complaints.

At half time with Sunderland 3Ė0 up Kirkham arrived and asked Derby if they wanted to start the game again.
As they were three down they accepted.
 
Two more "normal" halves followed, with Sunderland again 3 up at the "new" half time and going on to win 8-0


That's a fascinating bit of historic information, John. Can I ask what your source was please ? British Newspaper Archive maybe ? 
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General Discussion / Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
« Last post by Readingfan on Today at 04:41 pm »
On a personal note I am not sure if itís right to restart and, even as a City fan, would have been ok with Liverpool being awarded the title. However I do appreciate there are issues re relegation and promotion to sort out.
When it starts again any thoughts on appointments? City v Arsenal was down to be reffed by Jon Moss before lockdown. Do we feel that one of the biggies will now get the game to herald the restart, possibly Oliver or Dean?

I think travel distance may be a factor in appointing referees. As the current regulations stand, they would not be allowed to stay overnight either before or after the match - so would need to travel both ways on the same day. They should not be using public transport (train) and would not be allowed to share a car with somebody outside their household.

I don't think you will be seeing Oliver, Taylor or Dean in London or the south coast the rest of this season.  It would be interesting to see the geographical spread of the referees and what are their closest clubs. That will dictate a lot of the appointments!

It seems VAR will still be run from Stockley Park so presumably some officials will have to travel a fair way - I can't think of enough southern based SG1 officials to cover Stockley Park and games in London/South Coast. I guess they'll probably double up VAR officials quite a few times with most games being played in unique slots - e.g. on Saturday one VAR does the 12.30 and 17.30 games, another does the Saturday 16.00 and 20.00 games.

They'll have to work out a way for Newcastle to play down at Bournemouth and Brighton, and for Southampton to play away to Everton and Man Utd and so on, so you'd hope they'd have suitable protocols for match officials to travel where necessary. Otherwise we might end up with Simon Hooper on the FA Cup Final!  :o

Michael Oliver was due to referee Spurs V Man Utd and Mike Dean was down for Bournemouth V Crystal Palace so I guess we'll find out pretty quickly what the policy is.



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General Discussion / Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
« Last post by TVOS on Today at 01:51 pm »
And clubs will now have to pay out in expenses fees if they are not travelling together!

I'm sure they can afford it.
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General Discussion / Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
« Last post by ajb95 on Today at 12:54 pm »
And clubs will now have to pay out in expenses fees if they are not travelling together!
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General Discussion / Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
« Last post by lincs22 on Today at 09:37 am »
On a personal note I am not sure if itís right to restart and, even as a City fan, would have been ok with Liverpool being awarded the title. However I do appreciate there are issues re relegation and promotion to sort out.
When it starts again any thoughts on appointments? City v Arsenal was down to be reffed by Jon Moss before lockdown. Do we feel that one of the biggies will now get the game to herald the restart, possibly Oliver or Dean?

I think travel distance may be a factor in appointing referees. As the current regulations stand, they would not be allowed to stay overnight either before or after the match - so would need to travel both ways on the same day. They should not be using public transport (train) and would not be allowed to share a car with somebody outside their household.

I don't think you will be seeing Oliver, Taylor or Dean in London or the south coast the rest of this season.  It would be interesting to see the geographical spread of the referees and what are their closest clubs. That will dictate a lot of the appointments!
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A brilliant picture of a referee kitted out in typical 1960s gear. Presumably he is not meant to be the 'hooligan'! My one thought is that it could be John Thacker of Scarborough (timing is right) but that is a guess and other than John, I have no idea.  :(   

Edit - a young Ken Burns?
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General Discussion / Re: 20/21 Season - when will we restart?
« Last post by Hendo on Today at 08:05 am »
According to breaking news on BBC Football, the Premier League season is set to restart on 17 June with Aston Villa v Sheffield United and Manchester City v Arsenal. The matches are the two games in hand. A full fixture list would then be played on the weekend of 19-21 June. Clubs are still discussing the idea at a meeting on Thursday, but it is understood all have agreed in principle at this stage.

On a personal note I am not sure if itís right to restart and, even as a City fan, would have been ok with Liverpool being awarded the title. However I do appreciate there are issues re relegation and promotion to sort out.
When it starts again any thoughts on appointments? City v Arsenal was down to be reffed by Jon Moss before lockdown. Do we feel that one of the biggies will now get the game to herald the restart, possibly Oliver or Dean?
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Is it the 1967 version of Neil Swarbrick?
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MSV Duisburg will surely extend the gap to 8 points with a win against Carl Zeiss Jena tonight, though.

Wrong again! Top v bottom ended 1-1.

With Duisburg's centre-forward scoring both the opening goal and the equaliser !
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