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General Discussion / Re: Worst performance ever
« on: Sat 17 Jan 2026 19:58 »
Barry Knight from Orpington (Kent) was a strong referee, who made it to the premier league, he did use to make me laugh in the early 2000’s because he was so unpredictable. Met him numerous times and did a line for him too. Just AI him and this is what they said

His refereeing style was often described by commentators and some managers as strict and card-heavy. Certain high-profile matches drew criticism from teams and pundits alike due to the number of bookings.

Premier League stats - 74 games 255 yellows 19 Reds

Roger Funindez as a terrible referee, same as Bill Baker, one that I really rated but never made it to the PL was Tony Leake from Darwin…. but I did like Terry Heilbron, the only non premier league referee to ever referee the League Cup Final - Tottenham v Leicester.

Tony Leake was indeed a  very fine referee, who would have been more deserving of Premier League status than some of the current crop. However he certainly wouldn’t have had to travel from Darwin rather than the much shorter journeys from Darwen 😀

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General Discussion / Re: Anthony Taylor - Arsenal v Liverpool
« on: Fri 09 Jan 2026 19:30 »
If Sky News is to be believed there will be no further action taken by the FA because the referee saw it and dealt with it.
So we have the stupid situation where a player can be sent off by a referee who has seen a situation an dealt with it, but the player can appeal that the referee has made a mistake and request the decision be overturned, but the FA can do nothing if it thinks the referee has erred.
It makes you realise what FA really abbreviates.

And that happens more regularly at EFL levels where there is no VAR to correct errors during play

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 26th Dec 2025 - Thu 1st Jan 2026
« on: Tue 30 Dec 2025 14:02 »
I was at carrow road Boxing Day wasn’t very impressed with Matt Donohue

I never am

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General Discussion / Re: Middlesbrough vs Blackburn
« on: Sat 27 Dec 2025 12:15 »
A poor decision from James Bell there.

The understatement of the century

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At least he is talking about the match and the referee involved rather than VAR
You can't beat an old fashioned moan about the officials to deflect criticism away from the failures of his team.
Onwards to Saturday at home with Ruebyn Ricardo in charge against The Owls. It is two months since he last refereed them and it seems that Ismael was happy with him that day. Fingers crossed!

Ricardo is the best referee I have seen in the Championship for a long time and certainly this season

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General Discussion / Re: Paul Tierney - Preston v Blackburn
« on: Sat 22 Nov 2025 11:22 »
I’ve little doubt if he had seen it from the camera angle, he would have produced a red

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I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess up of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.

The clubs wouldn't agree. The home club have to shell out for the cost of putting the game on again, paying the match officials, all of which costs money.  The away team have to pay for travelling again, and all of this is because three match officials didn't know the laws of the game.  I know at one point there was a suggestion put to the FA than when a game had to be replayed due to refereeing errors the costs should be recovered from the match officials, this was rejected but I'd say there is an argument to say they should forfeit their match fees.

Why would the clubs have to agree? The FA have made plenty of decisions over the years which clubs have disagreed with, whilst having to accept them

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I have not seen it but - in a more general point - I fear we are getting ourselves into a tangle with phrases such as:  "normal contact", "meaningful contact" "extended holding" etc.  This is the dark alley we entered when trying to define - with 100% accuracy - both handball and the offside offence.  That has not gone well and neither is this.

Would it be so bad if we stripped back the Laws to give the referee the room and discretion to determine what is / is not an offence based on what they see in front of them during a game?

Ken Aston always related the role of the referee to be similar to that of a Magistrate.  Both had to assess the evidence, make a judgement and - if necessary - impose a sanction.  The only difference was that the Magistrate could retire to do their work, the referee has to do all three parts pretty much instantly.  By introducing numerous clauses, sub-clauses  and other refinements into the Laws we are making that task much harder to do and much easier to get wrong.

Exactly! I would also like to see ‘manufactured referees’ eliminated, and more officials using their personality in the control of games

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Some more controversy from this match has occurred this evening.

The Blackburn manager, Valerien Ismael, has come out and said that he didn’t agree to abandon game.

This is contrasting to what referee, Stephen Martin, said. Apparently, he said both managers agreed to abandon game.

To me this is a non-story and managers agreement should not be a part of this. The pitch was unsafe, unplayable and dangerous.

It did not need two managers to agree on stopping the game. Stephen Martin done the correct thing to abandon the match.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the managers, the referee will tell them what is happening but they have zero decision making rights.  We've all seen the video, it clearly wasn't playable even after they'd given it some time.

What he should be doing, rather than focusing on the referee, is discuss getting the rule changed.  We are a bit of an outlier in England, in that most other countries would come back the following day to replay the last 10 minutes, yet we insist that that entire game is replayed.  Even if the abandonment had been at 89 minutes it would still be replayed.


I don’t understand why people post without knowing the facts or context. This is the interview, at no point does he question the decision

https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/38005-v-ipswich-town-h-20925/?do=findComment&comment=2757575

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I have just seen a small clip of the game and to me, the pitch looks dangerous to me. So much water splashing up from challenges and the rain doesn’t look like it’s relenting at all. If it was earlier in the game, it may have been called off. Not excusing a quite terrible performance from my team.

The rainfall was of biblical proportions and the river, behind the ground, was so high it was covering the pitch drainage outlet. The railway line to Bolton which runs above the river was closed, due to flooding, for a few hours in the early evening

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General Discussion / Re: Simulation
« on: Wed 17 Sep 2025 19:27 »
I’ve said it before on here. The managers would cut it out in a weekend if the offending team were deducted one point plus any gained by the act of simulation

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General Discussion / Re: Matthew Donohue - Preston v Ipswich
« on: Sat 23 Aug 2025 18:49 »
I didn’t see him today, but your analysis sums up my opinion in each of the two games I saw him officiate last season

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General Discussion / Re: Graham Scott article in The Times
« on: Thu 21 Aug 2025 19:49 »
If there is one thing to come out of Coote's unfortunate actions, it is that PGMOL are taking official's welfare more seriously. Here, one is reminded of the pressures of the job and how it must affect them, some more than others.

The late great Keith Miller, who flew Mosquitoes in WW2, was asked in a tv interview about the pressures of playing in an Ashes series. His reply was “There’s no pressure in sport, pressure is having a Messerschmitt up you arse”

And Keith Miller was right, but he played in the 1950s when professional sport was entirely different to the 2020s.

I agree but the principle still applies

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General Discussion / Re: Graham Scott article in The Times
« on: Thu 21 Aug 2025 14:27 »
If there is one thing to come out of Coote's unfortunate actions, it is that PGMOL are taking official's welfare more seriously. Here, one is reminded of the pressures of the job and how it must affect them, some more than others.

The late great Keith Miller, who flew Mosquitoes in WW2, was asked in a tv interview about the pressures of playing in an Ashes series. His reply was “There’s no pressure in sport, pressure is having a Messerschmitt up you arse”

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Cup Appointments / Re: The Emirates FA Cup - 2025/2026
« on: Mon 04 Aug 2025 09:36 »
Interesting replacement assistant in the AFC Wolverhampton City v Shepshed Dynamo fixture.

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