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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #45 on: Thu 02 Jul 2026 21:17 »
The Times reported that Taylor/Oliver were ineligible for the 2022 final because it involved Argentina - not 100% sure it's true although I can't think of any examples of it happening at an international tournament

The reason why Anthony Taylor was blocked from refereeing the World Cup final
Poland's Szymon Marciniak will take charge of Argentina vs France.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #46 on: Thu 02 Jul 2026 22:36 »
No peace treaty has ever been signed after the Falklands War, so in that sense it could be said that the two countries are technically (legally?) still at war.  Others on this blog will be better qualified than I to clarify this.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #47 on: Thu 02 Jul 2026 22:58 »
Quote from: mac on Thu 02 Jul 2026 18:06
Is that actually a thing? England have been referred by Argentinians, such as Elizondo in 2006 notably.

What’s the position with anyone in the world reffing Germany?!

Unless one of the 6 officials involved is wrong, it’s a thing
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #48 on: Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:06 »
Quote from: ocj1998 on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:55
Quote from: RCG on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:53
Given its now 50+ years since Falklands and both AT and MO have refereed the senior Argentine players for years, I really think they should let that go.
Plus Argentina seem to like European referees

I don’t disagree, just informing people of what I know to be true

You say you know it to be true, but how do you know that?  Horacio Elizondo refereed England vs Portugal in the 2006 World Cup, and sent off Rooney, so how can there be a blanket ban?  If there was such a ban it would be nonsensical that it wasn't in place then but is now.
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« Reply #49 on: Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:48 »
You meant England v Portugal of course, but your point still stands that an Argentinian was indeed refereeing England back then.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #50 on: Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:59 »
Quote from: Lanyardhater on Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:48
You meant England v Portugal of course, but your point still stands that an Argentinian was indeed refereeing England back then.

Thanks, I did indeed, now edited
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« Reply #51 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 07:41 »
2022 was politically challenging for that particular conflict. 40th year anniversary of the conflict. China putting out support for Argentinian control of the islands. And FIFA will 'find' any excuse for something, unless... (I won't finish the sentence!).
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« Reply #52 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 08:40 »
On a much lighter note, I see Argyle_Mikey’s wonderful ‘Reijnders’ joke now has no fewer than ELEVEN ‘funny’ ratings.  Well done sir!  Is this a record?  Should the guys at Guinness be informed?
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #53 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 09:23 »
Quote from: rustyref on Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:06
Quote from: ocj1998 on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:55
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Given its now 50+ years since Falklands and both AT and MO have refereed the senior Argentine players for years, I really think they should let that go.
Plus Argentina seem to like European referees

I don’t disagree, just informing people of what I know to be true

You say you know it to be true, but how do you know that?  Horacio Elizondo refereed England vs Portugal in the 2006 World Cup, and sent off Rooney, so how can there be a blanket ban?  If there was such a ban it would be nonsensical that it wasn't in place then but is now.

I’m not sure when/why it has been a factor of consideration. English officials are telling people that they can’t, I’m going to trust them they know what they’re talking about. You can be sceptical all you want. It’s from the horses mouth.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #54 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 20:03 »
Quote from: ocj1998 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 09:23
Quote from: rustyref on Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:06
Quote from: ocj1998 on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:55
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Given its now 50+ years since Falklands and both AT and MO have refereed the senior Argentine players for years, I really think they should let that go.
Plus Argentina seem to like European referees

I don’t disagree, just informing people of what I know to be true

You say you know it to be true, but how do you know that?  Horacio Elizondo refereed England vs Portugal in the 2006 World Cup, and sent off Rooney, so how can there be a blanket ban?  If there was such a ban it would be nonsensical that it wasn't in place then but is now.

I’m not sure when/why it has been a factor of consideration. English officials are telling people that they can’t, I’m going to trust them they know what they’re talking about. You can be sceptical all you want. It’s from the horses mouth.

Ah, the old horse's mouth thing, but you can't say which horse, must be true then.  It can't be true because as I said an Argentinian referee has refereed England.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #55 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 20:18 »
And a very good referee he was too
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #56 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 21:56 »
Quote from: rustyref on Fri 03 Jul 2026 20:03
Quote from: ocj1998 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 09:23
Quote from: rustyref on Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:06
Quote from: ocj1998 on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:55
Quote from: RCG on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:53
Given its now 50+ years since Falklands and both AT and MO have refereed the senior Argentine players for years, I really think they should let that go.
Plus Argentina seem to like European referees

I don’t disagree, just informing people of what I know to be true

You say you know it to be true, but how do you know that?  Horacio Elizondo refereed England vs Portugal in the 2006 World Cup, and sent off Rooney, so how can there be a blanket ban?  If there was such a ban it would be nonsensical that it wasn't in place then but is now.

I’m not sure when/why it has been a factor of consideration. English officials are telling people that they can’t, I’m going to trust them they know what they’re talking about. You can be sceptical all you want. It’s from the horses mouth.

Ah, the old horse's mouth thing, but you can't say which horse, must be true then.  It can't be true because as I said an Argentinian referee has refereed England.

Thanks for your input rustyref, I’ll stick with what I know and you can go with what you think you know! I’m not going to air private conversations in a public forum, as I’m sure you wouldn’t expect me to! A referee refereeing a game 20 years ago being your only example should probably tell you that something might’ve changed since then.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #57 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 22:04 »
Quote from: ocj1998 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 21:56
Quote from: rustyref on Fri 03 Jul 2026 20:03
Quote from: ocj1998 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 09:23
Quote from: rustyref on Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:06
Quote from: ocj1998 on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:55
Quote from: RCG on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:53
Given its now 50+ years since Falklands and both AT and MO have refereed the senior Argentine players for years, I really think they should let that go.
Plus Argentina seem to like European referees

I don’t disagree, just informing people of what I know to be true

You say you know it to be true, but how do you know that?  Horacio Elizondo refereed England vs Portugal in the 2006 World Cup, and sent off Rooney, so how can there be a blanket ban?  If there was such a ban it would be nonsensical that it wasn't in place then but is now.

I’m not sure when/why it has been a factor of consideration. English officials are telling people that they can’t, I’m going to trust them they know what they’re talking about. You can be sceptical all you want. It’s from the horses mouth.

Ah, the old horse's mouth thing, but you can't say which horse, must be true then.  It can't be true because as I said an Argentinian referee has refereed England.

Thanks for your input rustyref, I’ll stick with what I know and you can go with what you think you know! I’m not going to air private conversations in a public forum, as I’m sure you wouldn’t expect me to! A referee refereeing a game 20 years ago being your only example should probably tell you that something might’ve changed since then.

That's my point though, the Falklands war was much more recent 20 years ago than it is now, there haven't been any serious escalations since then so it is absolutely nonsensical that they have introduced a ban involving English and Argentinian referees since then.  That would be like FIFA deciding that German referees can't referee England, and vice versa, it makes zero sense.
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #58 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 22:07 »
Quote from: rustyref on Fri 03 Jul 2026 22:04
Quote from: ocj1998 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 21:56
Quote from: rustyref on Fri 03 Jul 2026 20:03
Quote from: ocj1998 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 09:23
Quote from: rustyref on Thu 02 Jul 2026 23:06
Quote from: ocj1998 on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:55
Quote from: RCG on Thu 02 Jul 2026 17:53
Given its now 50+ years since Falklands and both AT and MO have refereed the senior Argentine players for years, I really think they should let that go.
Plus Argentina seem to like European referees



I don’t disagree, just informing people of what I know to be true

You say you know it to be true, but how do you know that?  Horacio Elizondo refereed England vs Portugal in the 2006 World Cup, and sent off Rooney, so how can there be a blanket ban?  If there was such a ban it would be nonsensical that it wasn't in place then but is now.

I’m not sure when/why it has been a factor of consideration. English officials are telling people that they can’t, I’m going to trust them they know what they’re talking about. You can be sceptical all you want. It’s from the horses mouth.

Ah, the old horse's mouth thing, but you can't say which horse, must be true then.  It can't be true because as I said an Argentinian referee has refereed England.

Thanks for your input rustyref, I’ll stick with what I know and you can go with what you think you know! I’m not going to air private conversations in a public forum, as I’m sure you wouldn’t expect me to! A referee refereeing a game 20 years ago being your only example should probably tell you that something might’ve changed since then.

That's my point though, the Falklands war was much more recent 20 years ago than it is now, there haven't been any serious escalations since then so it is absolutely nonsensical that they have introduced a ban involving English and Argentinian referees since then.  That would be like FIFA deciding that German referees can't referee England, and vice versa, it makes zero sense.

Write to FIFA about it then, it’s not my decision is it😂
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Re: Appointments Round of 32
« Reply #59 on: Fri 03 Jul 2026 22:45 »
Quote from: Original82 on Fri 03 Jul 2026 07:41
2022 was politically challenging for that particular conflict. 40th year anniversary of the conflict. China putting out support for Argentinian control of the islands. And FIFA will 'find' any excuse for something, unless... (I won't finish the sentence!).

Agree with this. I know in Qatar it wasn't allowed because Anthony Taylor was affected by it in terms of it preventing him from getting some games he would have otherwise got. Whether that was just a temporary FIFA thing at the time purely for the duration of that WC I have no idea but if they can change from it being accepted previously, as it clearly was in 2006, to it no longer being accepted I'm sure they can re-change it back to being accepted again if they so choose.
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