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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #30 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 18:53 »
Given AT's back story, 24 must be the gentleman who had a Super 'Mare at the Palace.
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #31 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 20:28 »
1. Paul durkin , I won’t give my reasons as I don’t want to get in trouble
3 Tony Glasson (glasson docks?)

Sorry, forgot to mark this one. 1 is not Paul Durkin. Clue - say it to yourself. 3 is indeed Tony Glasson.

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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #32 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 20:28 »
19. I don't think Raymond Boggs ever made it to the Football League list.

Warm, and I'm not talking about the stuff in the conveniences!

In which case I'll switch to a chap from England's Easternmost town.
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #33 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 20:36 »
Given AT's back story, 24 must be the gentleman who had a Super 'Mare at the Palace.

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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #34 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 20:38 »
JCFC - sorry, 24 is a 'like' not 'dislike'. I know it because I was there, at least for 85 minutes!

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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #35 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 20:39 »
Fifteen all!
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #36 on: Thu 15 Jul 2021 20:46 »
Another summer's evening on the caravan balcony. Bit of a problem with wi-fi access but I've enjoyed reading the answers provided so far. Many thanks to those who have drip-fed the answers as suggested and kept the conversation going. I've tried to 'like' and 'dislike' them. I'm back home tomorrow and will take another look then. Cheers!
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #37 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 07:55 »
Whilst I agree that an updated list can be helpful, I find it confusing when unconfirmed answers are posted in this way. Some great answers (eg 45) slip in almost unnoticed. More confusing, however, is the inclusion of speculative suggestions (20, 32, 41). John's encyclopaedic  knowledge  enables him to find alternatives for 17 and 24, other than AT's confirmed answers. The given answer at 19 does not really fit the clue, AT having confirmed a different name. Meanwhile I am still racking my brain over the solutions still missing   -   and enjoying it!
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #38 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 09:31 »
The work in progress list is not meant to be the correct answers

Hopefully Acme can mark it fully on his return

The "likes" to cryptic answers suggested to cryptic clues do not always make it clear what the answer is

After that has happened we will know which ones remain in addition to the four blanks

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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #39 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 09:38 »
34 might be a Bing Crosby reference
Swinging on a Star from the 1944 film Going My Way
Crosby football team = Marine
Andre Marriner, but already used him for 29

27 Ray Bigger (Surrey) & Ken Salmon (Middlesex)?

28 What comes in both red and yellow types
Roses/Peppers/Chillis/Referees Cards
Ordered "red ones" = anagram = endorse

25 A reference to Q18 or Roger Kirkpatrick
He was from Leicester = Filbert Street = Nuts
or is 18 a reference to the number of golf holes
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #40 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 10:58 »

The "likes" to cryptic answers suggested to cryptic clues do not always make it clear what the answer is


Nor should they, necessarily - leaving scope for others to continue puzzling.

I still take the like in relation to 32 as referring to George Tyson, but I agree it could be taken as confirming J Cross.

The Lowestoft reference can be cleared up, as Aubrey Moore does not fit the clue. There is a TV programme (which I have never watched) called "Everybody Loves Raymond" or something on those lines, which would have ruled out Arthur Luty. The conveniences are the Johns, the word "some" suggesting an incompleteness in the surname.

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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #41 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 11:22 »
34 might be a Bing Crosby reference
Swinging on a Star from the 1944 film Going My Way
Crosby football team = Marine
Andre Marriner, but already used him for 29

27 Ray Bigger (Surrey) & Ken Salmon (Middlesex)?

28 What comes in both red and yellow types
Roses/Peppers/Chillis/Referees Cards
Ordered "red ones" = anagram = endorse

25 A reference to Q18 or Roger Kirkpatrick
He was from Leicester = Filbert Street = Nuts
or is 18 a reference to the number of golf holes

Some interesting ideas John, to which I have no solution.

 I assumed the 18 was a reference to Kirkpatrick, but could see no lead there, so the golf is an interesting thought, though I am still lost.

I like your suggestion for the tall stories - I had been thinking of tall storeys as a possibility. (initially I had failed to read the question and got the  thing back to front, looking for a referee called Gherkinshard, or a tall building called Prit.)

The extension reference had me thinking of bricks, then tiles, but whether Rob's tiles or Keith's tiles they did not seem right.


We'll get there eventually - perhaps greater minds will come along.
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #42 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 16:21 »
I find it easier to look at a summary in one place to see what remains and hopefully for others to suggest what might be improved upon / corrected

If Acme could then review and state which ones still need sorting out in addition to the existing gaps (25, 27, 28, 34)

01.   Beer ‘n carrot? Should’ve gone to Specsavers!   Keren Barratt   
02.   Initially I didn’t really get these three   Derek R.G. Nippard
03.   A dock in W Lancs? One from the old days I imagine.   Tony Glasson
04.   You have to be a bit mad to teach in the North West   Vernon Batty
05.   Fishing around on the phone. The name?   Dick/Geoff/George /Harry Hartley
06.   ‘Bootiful son’   Bob Matthewson
07.   Belch, more tea, belch, more tea…….?   Danny Vickers
08.   Must have been at ‘sixes and sevens’ moving from Essex to Hampshire   Alan Turvey
09.   Forever commemorated at Stirling   Dave Wallace
10.    Football captain in Headmaster’s study. Sounds painful   George Cain
11.    Magic in Essex   Brian Daniels
12.    Wonderland!   David Allison/Jeff Winter
13.    Caroline of Wembley? I’ll sing to that   Ken Sweet
14.    Yorkshire ‘a’ sounding similar to Cheshire ‘e’, or is it the other way around? (2 referees)   Mark Haywood/Mark Heywood
15.    If I hear that corny E London joke once more, I’m calling a cab   Harold Hackney
16.    Preferred Ron or Ronald to Ronnie in Bentley town?   Ronald "Ron" Barker
17.    Off in a fit of pique? Must’ve have mispronounced his name again   Len Peake
18.    A Scottish church with Irish connections   Roger Kirkpatrick
19.    Everybody loves a man with a name of some convenience   Anthony Backhouse/Aubrey Moore/Ray Johnson
20.    A Fijian pulling pints in the South Lakes? Er, not quite.   Allan Banks/Peter Brandwood
21.    ‘I’ for Indiana? Could be but not on this occasion   Iorwerth Jones
22.    “Give ‘im the money!”   John Pickles
23.    One only at Christmas but is it on a Christmas tree?   Pat Partridge
24.    Watch it, this referee needs to play five minutes more   Frank "Les" Overton/George Sawyer
25.    Nuts in 18, and that’s the short of it   
26.    That move looked straightforward, even for a chess rookie like me   Bill Castle
27.    Tall stories from both sides of the Thames (2 referees leading to one answer)   
28.     Oh  *@#*, I thought I ordered red ones for the extension, not yellow   
29.    ‘By thy long grey beard and glittering eye….’ (not Mike Dean!)   Andre Marriner
30.    No they’re not, they’re very naughty boys!   Matt Messias
31.    Musically I’ve reviewed the situation and decided to get myself a wife   Clive/George/Michael/Tony Oliver
32.    In a fury again?   John Cross/Phil Crossley/Brian Curson/Laurence Cussons/John Hough/Norman Hough/Jock Waugh
33.    “Don’t tell him your name….”   Mike Pike
34.    A star swinging in from the East. But is it going my way or further up?   
35.    Broseley + Sandbach = Great Yarmouth   Bert Newsome/Don Shaw/Norman Burtenshaw
36.    Feeling a bit uncomfortable down below? U keep taking the tablets I say   Uriah Rennie
37.    First sight? Don’t know but they sure got on well after that.   John Lovatt
38.    Melchior, Caspar or Balthazar, take your pick (2 referees)   Roger Wiseman/Howard King
39.    Tread softly, terriers about in Northumberland   Baxter Golightly
40.    Nicola in London. Sounds fishy   Alf Sturgeon
41.    The key to this Sheffield suburb. That’s all there is to know   Joe Worrall
42.    It’s pointless asking him   Bob Armstrong/Paul Armstrong
43.    I say, I say, I say, what do you weigh fish with?   Edward Scales
44.    Quite a task refereeing this 1950s World Cup Final   George Reader
45.    1939 to 1945 revisited 26 times, and his voice never wavered throughout   Ray Olivier
46.    Elementary! (3 referees)   John Watson/John Holmes/Jack Sherlock
47.    Look back in anger   John Osborne
48.    Last in line but by no means the oldest   Alan Young
49.    The French think it’s all over   Jim Finney/Will Finnie
50.    They think it’s all over, it is now!   Eddie Wolstenholme

Back in town and I'll try and get more of these solved. Sorry if I appeared short last night, I was having problems with the wi-fi access.

JT - 1 to 16 are correct.
 
17 - I think JCFC has got this one.
19 - good suggestions but not who I had in mind. Everybody certainly loves Raymond but (JCFC) I think I erred in thinking that the town I had in mind was the easternmost town in the UK. It was certainly not Lowestoft or Ray Johnson. Think USA and then a tenuous link between the surname and a convenience!
20 - Er, not quite Busch but getting warm. Who pulled pints in the S Lakes for a living? Not Banks or Brandwood
24. - JCFC has got this one
25. - one of my better cryptic clues I believe. 18 is certainly Kirkpatrick, try shortening that and see what you come up with.
27. - my dad used to tell me stories that I now know were complete tosh, and they could be called............?
28. - one of the easier ones I think. Read the whole clue through. JCFC - you were on the right lines but not Rob / Keith Stiles
32. - this is where I agree with JCFC that a number of answers could be appropriate. Boxing and the NE was in my mind and I think you (JCFC) have got this one
34.  the Bible, a rugby song and Sheffield might provide a clue here
41. - not Joe Worrall. JCFC - Mrs AT's grandson, who lives in Sheffield, adored the miniature railway which ran most weekends in this suburb. Don't know about now (he's 19). If you get the suburb, you've got the ref, and one word above provides a clue
44. - not George Reader, and the 'task' needs to be included to get this one.

Otherwise fine, well done both of you and the others who have taken part. I'll leave it open for further discussion and suggestions and will look in later or tomorrow.   
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #43 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 17:12 »
Thanks, AT. By my reckoning then, we still need:

Edited to include AT's confirmations:

19.    Everybody loves a man with a name of some convenience
20.    A Fijian pulling pints in the South Lakes? Er, not quite.          Keith BUTCHER
25.    Nuts in 18, and that’s the short of it
27.    Tall stories from both sides of the Thames (2 referees leading to one answer)
28.     Oh  *@#*, I thought I ordered red ones for the extension, not yellow
34.    A star swinging in from the East. But is it going my way or further up?   Michael LOWE
41.    The key to this Sheffield suburb. That’s all there is to know        David ORR or Steven DORR
44.    Quite a task refereeing this 1950s World Cup Final            Al JOBLING
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Re: Close season Quiz
« Reply #44 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 17:17 »
20. The Kendal publican, I believe, was Keith Butcher, but I failed to find a Fijian connection.
34. The combination of Sheffield and a Biblical Rugby song might suggest Michael Lowe, but I am no wiser as to the rest of the clue.
44. I had spotted the s after 1950 and wondered about Bill Ling, but was not sure of a task either way.