Author Topic: Sat 5th & Sun 6th OCT 2019 (Read 3909 times)

ajb95 · « **Reply #30 on:** Sun 06 Oct 2019 18:20 »

Quote from: Fengunner on Sun 06 Oct 2019 14:53

Is something wrong with VAR at The Emirates?

Have they changed the laws of the game overnight?

Dive + VAR = Penalty in Liverpool

Shove + VAR = No Penalty in London (TWICE)

Bournmouth Goalkeeper crashes into own player - gets a Free Kick zzzzzzz

Sorry but clear penalty for Liverpool. Contact nowhere near the ball, catches his man!

TheThingFromLewes · « **Reply #31 on:** Sun 06 Oct 2019 18:41 »

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Mike Dean has been at his best in recent seasons. I wasn't always his biggest fan, but the older he got the more I have grown to like him as a referee. yes he has made mistakes, but I would say less than any other PGMOL 1 referee.

Astonishing. The guy is regressing at a rate of knots, he loves to annoy certain teams & players (his current hate list appears to be Spurs having previously been Arsenal - this is across about 3 years now). Spurs knocked his beloved Tranmere for 7 back in January. Presume you also rate the equally inept Moss, Mason, Atkinson, Taylor & Pawson?

So you think that Mike Dean has held a three year grudge against Spurs because he anticipated a not exactly unsurprising win for them over a then League 2 side in January 2019 and you think that he is as inept as a referee who officiated at Euro 2016 and a Europa League final and a referee who officiated PSG V Real Madrid a few weeks ago?

Just saying his sequence of decisions against Spurs is unbelievable, similar to the Arsenal games a few years back. Do you want me to list all the games...?

Yes please.

Yes please.

JCFC · « **Reply #32 on:** Sun 06 Oct 2019 18:59 »

Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Sun 06 Oct 2019 15:46

Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 00:06
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Quote from: rustyref on Sat 05 Oct 2019 20:58
Mike Dean has been at his best in recent seasons. I wasn't always his biggest fan, but the older he got the more I have grown to like him as a referee. yes he has made mistakes, but I would say less than any other PGMOL 1 referee.

Astonishing. The guy is regressing at a rate of knots, he loves to annoy certain teams & players (his current hate list appears to be Spurs having previously been Arsenal - this is across about 3 years now). Spurs knocked his beloved Tranmere for 7 back in January. Presume you also rate the equally inept Moss, Mason, Atkinson, Taylor & Pawson?

So you think that Mike Dean has held a three year grudge against Spurs because he anticipated a not exactly unsurprising win for them over a then League 2 side in January 2019 and you think that he is as inept as a referee who officiated at Euro 2016 and a Europa League final and a referee who officiated PSG V Real Madrid a few weeks ago?

Just saying his sequence of decisions against Spurs is unbelievable, similar to the Arsenal games a few years back. Do you want me to list all the games...?

Please don't trouble yourself: you have delighted us for long enough.

guest379 · « **Reply #33 on:** Sun 06 Oct 2019 22:05 »

Swansea, Sep 17   DRAW
BBC Sport: "Martin Olsson was twice fortunate not to concede a penalty after first blocking Toby Alderweireld's progress and then touching a loose ball with his hand, while there were calls for a late penalty when Serge Aurier went down in the box under a challenge from Jordan Ayew."

West Ham, Oct 17   LOSS

Arsenal, Nov 17   LOSS
BBC Sport: "Shkodran Mustafi headed a free-kick powerfully past Spurs keeper Hugo Lloris in the 36th minute after referee Mike Dean had contentiously penalised Davinson Sanchez for a challenge on Alexis Sanchez. The German defender also looked to have been offside."

West Ham, Jan 18   DRAW
BBC Sport: "Harry Kane, fit to start after only being a substitute as they beat Swansea 2-0 on Tuesday, had a disappointing night in front of goal. He had seven shots, three on target, although he could have had a penalty when Pablo Zabaleta appeared to pull his arm in the area." Also a late challenge from Adrian on Dele in the air having missed the ball not given.

Bournemouth, Mar 18   WIN

Cardiff, Oct 18   WIN
Red card for Cardiff's Joe Ralls. Wahoo! A big decision in Spurs' favour from Mr Dean!!

Wolves, Nov 18   WIN
2 pens for Wolves, 1 very, very soft and 1 obvious.

Arsenal, Dec 18   LOSS
Soft FK & then correct handball penalty against Vertonghen. Pen for Son, red card for Vertonghen both correct.

United, Jan 19   LOSS
Misses Jones landing on Kane completely, stops play at every chance with no penalising United time-wasting....

Burnley, Feb 19   LOSS
Corner given when GK correct call, stops play at every chance. Pocchetino has seen & probably remembered the above incidents and confronted Mr Dean, who it looks like says something naughty to the Argentine and vice versa. So surely Mr Dean cannot officiate Spurs ever again right.....

Newcastle, Aug 19   LOSS
BBC Sport: "Lo Celso's pass for Harry Kane ended with the England captain falling under Jamaal Lascelles' challenge - but Mike Dean ruled it was not a penalty, and was backed up by the check from video assistant referee (VAR) Anthony Taylor." There was also a foul from Schar on Son in the 1st half in the area somehow missed by Mr Dean.

So I make that just 3 wins in 11 games for Spurs with Mr Dean which is unfortunate, but plenty of 50-50 calls & more often than not calls in the opposition's favour. Just bad luck then probably but why after the kerfuffle in February at Turd Moor was Dean allowed to referee a Pocchetino side again....

!! Bonkers surely?

guest379 · « **Reply #34 on:** Sun 06 Oct 2019 22:08 »

Quote from: JCFC on Sun 06 Oct 2019 18:59

Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Sun 06 Oct 2019 15:46
Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 00:06
Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Sat 05 Oct 2019 23:37
Quote from: rustyref on Sat 05 Oct 2019 20:58
Mike Dean has been at his best in recent seasons. I wasn't always his biggest fan, but the older he got the more I have grown to like him as a referee. yes he has made mistakes, but I would say less than any other PGMOL 1 referee.

Astonishing. The guy is regressing at a rate of knots, he loves to annoy certain teams & players (his current hate list appears to be Spurs having previously been Arsenal - this is across about 3 years now). Spurs knocked his beloved Tranmere for 7 back in January. Presume you also rate the equally inept Moss, Mason, Atkinson, Taylor & Pawson?

So you think that Mike Dean has held a three year grudge against Spurs because he anticipated a not exactly unsurprising win for them over a then League 2 side in January 2019 and you think that he is as inept as a referee who officiated at Euro 2016 and a Europa League final and a referee who officiated PSG V Real Madrid a few weeks ago?

Just saying his sequence of decisions against Spurs is unbelievable, similar to the Arsenal games a few years back. Do you want me to list all the games...?

Please don't trouble yourself: you have delighted us for long enough.

A couple have asked so I've gone through since start of 2017 season with a list of all games refereed by Mike Dean for Tottenham. Going back like 4 years I could have done the same for him with Arsenal, it's spookily similar sequence!

Readingfan · « **Reply #35 on:** Sun 06 Oct 2019 23:04 »

It would surely be even more bonkers to suggest that a referee should never officiate a side again because a manager is unhappy with some of their decisions.

Sometimes referees make wrong decisions. There were some people who thought the penalty given to Spurs against Arsenal last season was incorrect but you could certainly understand it at real speed.

Burnley beat Spurs after scoring a goal from a corner that was wrongly awarded. Probably the assistant's decision rather than Mike Dean's and something that happens several times across the football season but doesn't result in a goal that often. Suggesting that there is some particular reason for it or that Mike Dean shouldn't referee Spurs again seems a nonsense.

guest379 · « **Reply #36 on:** Mon 14 Oct 2019 20:34 »

Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 23:04

It would surely be even more bonkers to suggest that a referee should never officiate a side again because a manager is unhappy with some of their decisions.

Sometimes referees make wrong decisions. There were some people who thought the penalty given to Spurs against Arsenal last season was incorrect but you could certainly understand it at real speed.

Burnley beat Spurs after scoring a goal from a corner that was wrongly awarded. Probably the assistant's decision rather than Mike Dean's and something that happens several times across the football season but doesn't result in a goal that often. Suggesting that there is some particular reason for it or that Mike Dean shouldn't referee Spurs again seems a nonsense.

It is a series of decisions that have unjustly gone against one particular side in a series of games by the same official. Had all calls been consistent and correct, I could understand it, but they most definitely have not been. In fact a lot of the decisions have been rank. The fact Spurs fans & the manager & players clearly have a problem with Mr Dean means he should not be put in the position to officiate them and make things worse, surely?!

rustyref · « **Reply #37 on:** Mon 14 Oct 2019 20:41 »

You think that, but it doesn't seem to appear that many, if any, on here agree with you.

Readingfan · « **Reply #38 on:** Mon 14 Oct 2019 22:37 »

Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Mon 14 Oct 2019 20:34

Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 23:04
It would surely be even more bonkers to suggest that a referee should never officiate a side again because a manager is unhappy with some of their decisions.

Sometimes referees make wrong decisions. There were some people who thought the penalty given to Spurs against Arsenal last season was incorrect but you could certainly understand it at real speed.

Burnley beat Spurs after scoring a goal from a corner that was wrongly awarded. Probably the assistant's decision rather than Mike Dean's and something that happens several times across the football season but doesn't result in a goal that often. Suggesting that there is some particular reason for it or that Mike Dean shouldn't referee Spurs again seems a nonsense.

It is a series of decisions that have unjustly gone against one particular side in a series of games by the same official. Had all calls been consistent and correct, I could understand it, but they most definitely have not been. In fact a lot of the decisions have been rank. The fact Spurs fans & the manager & players clearly have a problem with Mr Dean means he should not be put in the position to officiate them and make things worse, surely?!

Most definitely not. The authorities should decide refereeing appointments - not fans, managers or players of any particular club.

QuoCob · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue 15 Oct 2019 09:09 »

Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Mon 14 Oct 2019 20:34

Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 23:04
It would surely be even more bonkers to suggest that a referee should never officiate a side again because a manager is unhappy with some of their decisions.

Sometimes referees make wrong decisions. There were some people who thought the penalty given to Spurs against Arsenal last season was incorrect but you could certainly understand it at real speed.

Burnley beat Spurs after scoring a goal from a corner that was wrongly awarded. Probably the assistant's decision rather than Mike Dean's and something that happens several times across the football season but doesn't result in a goal that often. Suggesting that there is some particular reason for it or that Mike Dean shouldn't referee Spurs again seems a nonsense.

It is a series of decisions that have unjustly gone against one particular side in a series of games by the same official. Had all calls been consistent and correct, I could understand it, but they most definitely have not been. In fact a lot of the decisions have been rank. The fact Spurs fans & the manager & players clearly have a problem with Mr Dean means he should not be put in the position to officiate them and make things worse, surely?!

You've just accused him of being biased and/or partial, the worst accusation that could be made against any official?
That in itself is a red card offence.

TVOS · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue 15 Oct 2019 12:53 »

Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Mon 14 Oct 2019 20:34

Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 23:04
It would surely be even more bonkers to suggest that a referee should never officiate a side again because a manager is unhappy with some of their decisions.

Sometimes referees make wrong decisions. There were some people who thought the penalty given to Spurs against Arsenal last season was incorrect but you could certainly understand it at real speed.

Burnley beat Spurs after scoring a goal from a corner that was wrongly awarded. Probably the assistant's decision rather than Mike Dean's and something that happens several times across the football season but doesn't result in a goal that often. Suggesting that there is some particular reason for it or that Mike Dean shouldn't referee Spurs again seems a nonsense.

It is a series of decisions that have unjustly gone against one particular side in a series of games by the same official. Had all calls been consistent and correct, I could understand it, but they most definitely have not been. In fact a lot of the decisions have been rank. The fact Spurs fans & the manager & players clearly have a problem with Mr Dean means he should not be put in the position to officiate them and make things worse, surely?!

Sounds like it’s you who has the problem with Mr Dean.

Woody_2216 · « **Reply #41 on:** Tue 15 Oct 2019 13:34 »

Quote from: They Are Getting Worse on Mon 14 Oct 2019 20:34

Quote from: Readingfan on Sun 06 Oct 2019 23:04
It would surely be even more bonkers to suggest that a referee should never officiate a side again because a manager is unhappy with some of their decisions.

Sometimes referees make wrong decisions. There were some people who thought the penalty given to Spurs against Arsenal last season was incorrect but you could certainly understand it at real speed.

Burnley beat Spurs after scoring a goal from a corner that was wrongly awarded. Probably the assistant's decision rather than Mike Dean's and something that happens several times across the football season but doesn't result in a goal that often. Suggesting that there is some particular reason for it or that Mike Dean shouldn't referee Spurs again seems a nonsense.

It is a series of decisions that have unjustly gone against one particular side in a series of games by the same official. Had all calls been consistent and correct, I could understand it, but they most definitely have not been. In fact a lot of the decisions have been rank. The fact Spurs fans & the manager & players clearly have a problem with Mr Dean means he should not be put in the position to officiate them and make things worse, surely?!

You really do have a problem with one of the best SG1 officials but it seems you have a problem with most of the refs anyway

Foamy · « **Reply #42 on:** Fri 18 Oct 2019 07:22 »

PGMOL should respect Spurs fans and the manager and players not wanting Mike Dean refereeing them by creating a new SG4 list to referee future matches at White Hart Lane.
Andy Davies
Ross Joyce
Trevor Kettle
Brett Huxtable

Enjoy!

Whistleblower · « **Reply #43 on:** Fri 18 Oct 2019 08:33 »

To this admirably suggested SG4 list may I add the names of Nick Kinseley and Richard Clark ( the latter now retired from active refereeing but I'm sure could be persuaded to return to be part of such a niche and stellar list.

Hendo · « **Reply #44 on:** Fri 18 Oct 2019 08:52 »

Quote from: Whistleblower on Fri 18 Oct 2019 08:33

To this admirably suggested SG4 list may I add the names of Nick Kinseley and Richard Clark ( the latter now retired from active refereeing but I'm sure could be persuaded to return to be part of such a niche and stellar list.

Are Paul Prosser and Roger East not available? 🤪

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