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Author Topic: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019  (Read 9473 times)

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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #30 on: Mon 02 Dec 2019 13:41 »
Acme I was at the game. Wasn’t the best of games I’d agree with you on that.  Palace did a job on Burnley and stopped us from playing into the front two and nicked two goals for two Burnley mistakes. However I have to disagree with your comments on Peter Bankes. He was very inconsistent with his yellow cards. Wasn’t booking Bardsley until your number 4 went and had a word. Mc Neill got chopped down a number of times no cards. He let goal kicks being taken with the attackers still in the box.Basic laws. Throw ins taking about 30 seconds each one. No clamping down on dissent or time wasting. I thought he looked out of his depth from quite early on. He fell for play acting on both sides. Both teams knew they could get away with things. Not many big calls for him to make and thought Adam Nunn had a good game when it came to not flagging until it had gone in for the disallowed offside goal.

I also agree with this and I felt that the Bardsley caution, for a nothing incident which was right in front of where I sit, was a point where he really showed his lack of control. Burnley are regularly criticised for time wasting, however, Palace took it to a different level with one goal kick taking almost one and a half minutes and many throw ins taking an eternity and nothing was said.

Another example of VAR not being necessary was Palace's first goal. It was a good goal and the players of both sides were all lined up to kick off and yet we waited until VAR had checked the goal -- there was absolutely nothing contentious about it and yet we, as spectators, were just told that there was a VAR review ---it really is crazy.

Thanks for these comments. Point taken, I think I must have seen Peter's performance through the same rose-tinted glasses as I saw Wilf's! There is surely a VAR review on every goal and one can usually see early on which goals are going to be contentious and which are not. Both Palace's goals came into the second category.   
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #31 on: Mon 02 Dec 2019 13:53 »
Acme I was at the game. Wasn’t the best of games I’d agree with you on that.  Palace did a job on Burnley and stopped us from playing into the front two and nicked two goals for two Burnley mistakes. However I have to disagree with your comments on Peter Bankes. He was very inconsistent with his yellow cards. Wasn’t booking Bardsley until your number 4 went and had a word. Mc Neill got chopped down a number of times no cards. He let goal kicks being taken with the attackers still in the box.Basic laws. Throw ins taking about 30 seconds each one. No clamping down on dissent or time wasting. I thought he looked out of his depth from quite early on. He fell for play acting on both sides. Both teams knew they could get away with things. Not many big calls for him to make and thought Adam Nunn had a good game when it came to not flagging until it had gone in for the disallowed offside goal.

I agree about both goals which is why I questioned the inordinate amount of time taken to review the first goal ---it was ridiculous.

I also agree with this and I felt that the Bardsley caution, for a nothing incident which was right in front of where I sit, was a point where he really showed his lack of control. Burnley are regularly criticised for time wasting, however, Palace took it to a different level with one goal kick taking almost one and a half minutes and many throw ins taking an eternity and nothing was said.

Another example of VAR not being necessary was Palace's first goal. It was a good goal and the players of both sides were all lined up to kick off and yet we waited until VAR had checked the goal -- there was absolutely nothing contentious about it and yet we, as spectators, were just told that there was a VAR review ---it really is crazy.

Thanks for these comments. Point taken, I think I must have seen Peter's performance through the same rose-tinted glasses as I saw Wilf's! There is surely a VAR review on every goal and one can usually see early on which goals are going to be contentious and which are not. Both Palace's goals came into the second category.

I agree, both Palace goals were OK and that is why it was so frustrating that the VAR on the first one took an inordinate amount of time with both teams waiting a fair time before they could restart.
« Last Edit: Mon 02 Dec 2019 15:41 by Ashington46 »
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #32 on: Wed 04 Dec 2019 08:11 »
Two contrasting performances last night.
Moss gave an easy and restrained performance, albeit not a difficult game to referee.
In contrast taylor was rather unconvincing. Red card spot on, but a lot of weird decisions. Don’t quite know how the game ended with 6 yellows?
Did nothing to sort the cook and zaha incident at the end. All in all, not one of his best

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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #33 on: Wed 04 Dec 2019 12:16 »
Two contrasting performances last night.
Moss gave an easy and restrained performance, albeit not a difficult game to referee.
In contrast taylor was rather unconvincing. Red card spot on, but a lot of weird decisions. Don’t quite know how the game ended with 6 yellows?
Did nothing to sort the cook and zaha incident at the end. All in all, not one of his best

I was at Selhurst Park last night and agree with your sentiments ajb95. Red card was spot on and decision not to award Palace a penalty after Zaha went down too easily was correct, but some of the other decisions and yellow cards were puzzling. In the 2nd half, it didn't seem that a foul could be committed without a card coming out and I think if the game had gone on much longer, we would have seen a 2nd yellow for someone. Not a game for the faint-hearted, I was glad in a way that the experienced Taylor was in charge rather than a 'newbie' or less experienced ref who ordinarily might have been appointed for this 'mid-table game'.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #34 on: Wed 04 Dec 2019 22:06 »
Mr Taylor did a decent job in his last Manc derby, but not filled with confidence for the coming weekend by the above.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #35 on: Thu 05 Dec 2019 20:10 »
Two very poor decisions by Craig Pawson. Clear foul on Vardy 1st half, add insult to injury he cautions him for diving.
And the penalty he does give is absolutely a nothing foul.

Post World Cup hangover possibly, but I’m baffled the VAR didn’t step in!