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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #15 on: Tue 26 Nov 2019 23:18 »
Is Peter Bankes SG1 or SG2?

I wonder if we might see some of the SG2 guys with middles over the festive period, given that there's so many games on the horizon?

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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #16 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 12:59 »
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #17 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 13:21 »
Hooper is doing the Friday night championship game friend on championship duty Saturday and Peter banks is sg1 not sg2 and I don’t think sg2s will do prem games(to answer flip modes queries)

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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #18 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 16:05 »
I don’t think sg2s will do prem games(to answer flip modes queries)

Some will get "trial" games particularly if being looked at for promotion so it does happen. Not perhaps as often as it should but that's a whole different conversation!  So yes SG2 refs will sometimes do a PL game just rarely!
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #19 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 18:56 »
I don’t think sg2s will do prem games(to answer flip modes queries)

Some will get "trial" games particularly if being looked at for promotion so it does happen. Not perhaps as often as it should but that's a whole different conversation!  So yes SG2 refs will sometimes do a PL game just rarely!

Andy Madley did two around Christmas last year, much to Neil Warnock's disdain!

They might be more reluctant to use some SG2 referees given VAR's current problems but we'll see. I think it would be good to see a few used over the hectic Christmas period, Rob Jones certainly.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #20 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 22:38 »
I don’t think sg2s will do prem games(to answer flip modes queries)

Some will get "trial" games particularly if being looked at for promotion so it does happen. Not perhaps as often as it should but that's a whole different conversation!  So yes SG2 refs will sometimes do a PL game just rarely!

Andy Madley did two around Christmas last year, much to Neil Warnock's disdain!

They might be more reluctant to use some SG2 referees given VAR's current problems but we'll see. I think it would be good to see a few used over the hectic Christmas period, Rob Jones certainly.

Jarred Gillett would be my pick. From what stuff I have seen of him in the Championship out here he's been very good, and he has a wealth of VAR experience as it's been in use in Australia for a good few years now.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #21 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 23:25 »
I don’t think sg2s will do prem games(to answer flip modes queries)

Some will get "trial" games particularly if being looked at for promotion so it does happen. Not perhaps as often as it should but that's a whole different conversation!  So yes SG2 refs will sometimes do a PL game just rarely!

Andy Madley did two around Christmas last year, much to Neil Warnock's disdain!

They might be more reluctant to use some SG2 referees given VAR's current problems but we'll see. I think it would be good to see a few used over the hectic Christmas period, Rob Jones certainly.

Jarred Gillett would be my pick. From what stuff I have seen of him in the Championship out here he's been very good, and he has a wealth of VAR experience as it's been in use in Australia for a good few years now.

Gillett's obviously not been in England that long but I've been impressed from what I've seen. I certainly wouldn't object to him getting a PL trial game!

Tim Robinson, Darren England and Darren Bond could also be possibilities. Of course Oliver Langford, inadvertently, has already had one!

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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #22 on: Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:21 »
As much as I agree that new guys need to be tested that should be as well as (not instead of) those currently on the list. Otherwise find some quirk in the contract and remove the dead wood
Hooper can only be properly judged (as an example) if he is given a run of games
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #23 on: Thu 28 Nov 2019 12:25 »
As much as I agree that new guys need to be tested that should be as well as (not instead of) those currently on the list. Otherwise find some quirk in the contract and remove the dead wood
Hooper can only be properly judged (as an example) if he is given a run of games

Hooper has had a few games recently. I just don't think he's quite good enough to be honest and giving him a run of games might not make for a favourable judgement!

There's 39 PL games in 12 days over Christmas so with 17 PL referees a fair allocation would be give 2 games to everyone, covering 34. you've then got 5 left to give a few SG2 referees a trial match and maybe the odd referee like Oliver gets given a third match.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #24 on: Thu 28 Nov 2019 12:36 »
As much as I agree that new guys need to be tested that should be as well as (not instead of) those currently on the list. Otherwise find some quirk in the contract and remove the dead wood
Hooper can only be properly judged (as an example) if he is given a run of games

Hooper has had a few games recently. I just don't think he's quite good enough to be honest and giving him a run of games might not make for a favourable judgement!

There's 39 PL games in 12 days over Christmas so with 17 PL referees a fair allocation would be give 2 games to everyone, covering 34. you've then got 5 left to give a few SG2 referees a trial match and maybe the odd referee like Oliver gets given a third match.

I hope that they have the common sense not to overuse the SG 1 in the FL. I’m sure there are some NL officials who are capable of going into the championship to support.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #25 on: Sat 30 Nov 2019 11:42 »
Does anyone know how many PL games Mike Dean is now on? He must be on course to get to 500 in the next couple of months.
Just had a look on the Pl website the card shark has done 493 games which is a remarkable achievement
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #26 on: Sun 01 Dec 2019 11:05 »
Does anyone know how many PL games Mike Dean is now on? He must be on course to get to 500 in the next couple of months.
Just had a look on the Pl website the card shark has done 493 games which is a remarkable achievement

Thanks!

Do we know if this includes the forthcoming Liverpool V Everton game?

All being well, Dean should be celebrating his 500th PL game at some point in January then, as a rough estimate.

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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #27 on: Sun 01 Dec 2019 16:05 »
I was at Turf Moor yesterday and thought that Peter Bankes had a decent game. Calm unhurried style of refereeing, cards were spot on, and some 'handbags' dealt with competently close to the touchline dugouts at the start of the second half. VAR Anthony Taylor was spot on in having a first half Palace goal disallowed for offside and no complaints about it either. Game was no great shakes (hence last on MOTD) but Peter could only referee what he saw and I thought he and his ARs did his job well. I think we shall be seeing more of him on the PL as the season progresses.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #28 on: Sun 01 Dec 2019 22:56 »
Acme I was at the game. Wasn’t the best of games I’d agree with you on that.  Palace did a job on Burnley and stopped us from playing into the front two and nicked two goals for two Burnley mistakes. However I have to disagree with your comments on Peter Bankes. He was very inconsistent with his yellow cards. Wasn’t booking Bardsley until your number 4 went and had a word. Mc Neill got chopped down a number of times no cards. He let goal kicks being taken with the attackers still in the box.Basic laws. Throw ins taking about 30 seconds each one. No clamping down on dissent or time wasting. I thought he looked out of his depth from quite early on. He fell for play acting on both sides. Both teams knew they could get away with things. Not many big calls for him to make and thought Adam Nunn had a good game when it came to not flagging until it had gone in for the disallowed offside goal.
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Re: Sat 30th NOV - Thu 4th DEC 2019
« Reply #29 on: Mon 02 Dec 2019 11:33 »
Acme I was at the game. Wasn’t the best of games I’d agree with you on that.  Palace did a job on Burnley and stopped us from playing into the front two and nicked two goals for two Burnley mistakes. However I have to disagree with your comments on Peter Bankes. He was very inconsistent with his yellow cards. Wasn’t booking Bardsley until your number 4 went and had a word. Mc Neill got chopped down a number of times no cards. He let goal kicks being taken with the attackers still in the box.Basic laws. Throw ins taking about 30 seconds each one. No clamping down on dissent or time wasting. I thought he looked out of his depth from quite early on. He fell for play acting on both sides. Both teams knew they could get away with things. Not many big calls for him to make and thought Adam Nunn had a good game when it came to not flagging until it had gone in for the disallowed offside goal.

I also agree with this and I felt that the Bardsley caution, for a nothing incident which was right in front of where I sit, was a point where he really showed his lack of control. Burnley are regularly criticised for time wasting, however, Palace took it to a different level with one goal kick taking almost one and a half minutes and many throw ins taking an eternity and nothing was said.

Another example of VAR not being necessary was Palace's first goal. It was a good goal and the players of both sides were all lined up to kick off and yet we waited until VAR had checked the goal -- there was absolutely nothing contentious about it and yet we, as spectators, were just told that there was a VAR review ---it really is crazy.
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