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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #15 on: Tue 26 Mar 2019 17:52 »
I’m aware that Kirkup has been injured and he’s been back for several weeks now in the lower leagues - would have thought he would be back in the PL , even prior to his injury Kirkup wasn’t in the PL much this season

By several weeks I guess you mean last Monday nights game Mansfield v Lincoln 😉

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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #16 on: Wed 27 Mar 2019 02:28 »
Should we adopt the spanish system where the sort appointmentw for the season by computer. Perhaps we should do this for referees role only and ensure the refs get each team a similar number if times??

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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #17 on: Wed 27 Mar 2019 10:33 »
Should we adopt the spanish system where the sort appointmentw for the season by computer. Perhaps we should do this for referees role only and ensure the refs get each team a similar number if times??

I think there has got to be a human element to this so that the highest profile games go to the top refs, and that up and coming refs are given games to challenge them eg Kavanagh and the Mersey derby. I don't actually mind Lee Probert refereeing two Palace games out of three, he's a good ref and seems to get on well with the players, wherever he is officiating. I note though that the Palace do not seem to have crossed paths with Roger East this season (a good or a bad thing?) and I think Palace v Huddersfield might have been a good game to 'blood' the likes of Robert Jones before the key end of season games. And this is where imo the human element comes in. 
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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #18 on: Wed 27 Mar 2019 20:44 »
Blood a young and inexperienced referee in a game where palace aren’t safe. Imagine he gives a soft penalty to Huddersfield that makes palace not win and both Southampton And Burnley both win. Wrong time for someone such as Robert Jones to be put in. To me you need a game like Leicester v Bournemouth to get him or someone else from SG2 in. Or you are very certain that palace are safe!
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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #19 on: Wed 27 Mar 2019 22:48 »
Blood a young and inexperienced referee in a game where palace aren’t safe. Imagine he gives a soft penalty to Huddersfield that makes palace not win and both Southampton And Burnley both win. Wrong time for someone such as Robert Jones to be put in. To me you need a game like Leicester v Bournemouth to get him or someone else from SG2 in. Or you are very certain that palace are safe!

What if Lee Probert gives a soft penalty?
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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #20 on: Thu 28 Mar 2019 18:30 »
Lee Probert in charge of the Palace for the second time in three games. Andre Marriner gets to christen the new Tottenham stadium v Palace on 3rd April.
  Yes, quite correct AT, and in addition Friend (Man City), Attwell (Man Utd), Atkinson (Liverpool) and Taylor (Arsenal) also take charge of the same team inside three games. Surely, The PGMOL can make a 'better fist' of their appointing criteria and avoid such duplication !!  ::)
They need to learn a lesson from their Scottish counterparts...Bobby Madden's appointment to this Sunday's Old Firm is his first Celtic match since.....well, actually since the last time they played on the 17th March!

I do remember Howard Webb (circa 2005-6) referring Liverpool v Arsenal and Arsenal v Man Utd in consecutive weeks.
(Edit: I was way out, it was the 07/08 season.  He refereed Liverpool v Arsenal on 28/10/07 (MW 11) and Arsenal v Man Utd on 03/11/07 (MW12).

I think that week was when Webb really cemented himself as England's top referee at the time - the 'big' games had not gone well for referees so far that season. You'd had Rob Styles infamously on Liverpool v Chelsea and Mark Clattenburg on the Merseyside derby, and Mike Dean had a poor day at the office for Man Utd V Chelsea.

I often think too much emphasis is put on referees having the same teams within a short period of time. If there is a big hangover from the previous game then it is obviously not wise into rushing into having them referee that team again but I can understand, for example, why the PGMO wanted Martin Atkinson on both Everton V Liverpool and Liverpool V Tottenham. If it hadn't gone to him then maybe it would have gone to Anthony Taylor who did Tottenham V Arsenal on the same weekend Atkinson refereed Liverpool, or maybe Andre Marriner or Michael Oliver who also refereed Tottenham/Liverpool in the seven days prior to the aforementioned two games. I'm not sure it makes much difference whether there is a gap of three weeks, four weeks or six weeks in the majority of cases.

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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #21 on: Thu 28 Mar 2019 19:53 »
a decent set of appointments after the international break hope all have good games

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Re: Sat 30th MAR – Wed 3rd APR 2019
« Reply #22 on: Thu 28 Mar 2019 20:02 »
Blood a young and inexperienced referee in a game where palace aren’t safe. Imagine he gives a soft penalty to Huddersfield that makes palace not win and both Southampton And Burnley both win. Wrong time for someone such as Robert Jones to be put in. To me you need a game like Leicester v Bournemouth to get him or someone else from SG2 in. Or you are very certain that palace are safe!


What if Lee Probert gives a soft penalty?

It goes down as a mistake by an experienced referee and whereas if for example someone like Jones gave it people will say he is not ready for the PL and it could possibly stick with him for the rest of his career. If you aren’t good enough to be deemed a PL ref at the start of the season then they shouldn’t be put in a relegation battle game
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