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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #15 on: Tue 23 Feb 2021 22:32 »
Good games for all concerned.
Surprised mason gets the wba v brighton game.
Good to see attwell and pawson with games involving the big six.
Moss gets his usual game involving a top six side, guess only riley knows how.
Nice to see jones, england and madley with games too.
Bankes might have his hands full at leeds.

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #16 on: Tue 23 Feb 2021 22:57 »
Get Attwell a Burnley season ticket. Our Var yet again. Adrian Holmes consecutive games as lineo for us too

I think you will find he has a season ticket to Stockley Park... ;)
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #17 on: Thu 25 Feb 2021 10:23 »
shame no prem game this weekend for Scott or hooper

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #18 on: Thu 25 Feb 2021 21:33 »
That is a huge game for Mason, very surprised he has that one.

Happy with Taylor for us at Palace, and good to see Attwell pick up a decent top six clash.

Mason has refereed around 300 premier league games, a championship final and league cup final I doubt that he is not capable of refereeing West Brom v Brighton.

Would that more than 1.35% of the footballing fraternity shared your confidence. If Mason had been around at the heyday of our top English refs in the 70s and 80s I doubt he would have got anywhere near a PL car park, let alone pitch side. His Cup Final appearances are not a reflection on his own ability, more a case of a lack of quality among referees and poor management by those at the top,
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #19 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 08:23 »
That is a huge game for Mason, very surprised he has that one.

Happy with Taylor for us at Palace, and good to see Attwell pick up a decent top six clash.

Mason has refereed around 300 premier league games, a championship final and league cup final I doubt that he is not capable of refereeing West Brom v Brighton.

Would that more than 1.35% of the footballing fraternity shared your confidence. If Mason had been around at the heyday of our top English refs in the 70s and 80s I doubt he would have got anywhere near a PL car park, let alone pitch side. His Cup Final appearances are not a reflection on his own ability, more a case of a lack of quality among referees and poor management by those at the top,



If a comparison between Mason and referees of the 1970s and 1980s is made then I would say that he is certainly no Joe Worrall but neither is he an Alan Turvey. More a Brian Daniels perhaps in terms of ability.

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #20 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 08:27 »
Good games for all concerned.
Surprised mason gets the wba v brighton game.
Good to see attwell and pawson with games involving the big six.
Moss gets his usual game involving a top six side, guess only riley knows how.
Nice to see jones, england and madley with games too.
Bankes might have his hands full at leeds.



Moss does get a large number of high profile matches which many on RTR find hard to understand why. I believe Moss is reckoned by the PGMOL to be able to deliver matches safely ( whether or not one agrees with that is another matter ) and I understand the Clubs are always pretty content for him to referee their matches
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #21 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 12:56 »
Good games for all concerned.
Surprised mason gets the wba v brighton game.
Good to see attwell and pawson with games involving the big six.
Moss gets his usual game involving a top six side, guess only riley knows how.
Nice to see jones, england and madley with games too.
Bankes might have his hands full at leeds.



Moss does get a large number of high profile matches which many on RTR find hard to understand why. I believe Moss is reckoned by the PGMOL to be able to deliver matches safely ( whether or not one agrees with that is another matter ) and I understand the Clubs are always pretty content for him to referee their matches

I'd agree with that assessment, to be fair to Moss I don't think he has had many disasters of late. Inspecting his performances more closely however, I feel he misses/ignores a number of yellow card offences then issues cards for offences that don't seem to warrant one, makes very little effort at all to engage with the players and does the bare minimum in terms of positioning. Safe? Probably a fair evaluation, but far from good.
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #22 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 13:37 »
I remember being told this by a senior Observer/Assessor about Moss. He doesn't look very much like an athlete because of his body shape rather than his body mass. However, on a sprint, he is measured as being not among the slowest in SG1. It takes some believing but I think it's right that his appearance is not typical of a modern athletic referee and so that may count against him in how he is perceived. Interestingly I have also heard that he is a referee who does enjoy rapport with the players but it's done in a quiet and not overtly matey way.
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #23 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 14:26 »
I remember being told this by a senior Observer/Assessor about Moss. He doesn't look very much like an athlete because of his body shape rather than his body mass. However, on a sprint, he is measured as being not among the slowest in SG1. It takes some believing but I think it's right that his appearance is not typical of a modern athletic referee and so that may count against him in how he is perceived. Interestingly I have also heard that he is a referee who does enjoy rapport with the players but it's done in a quiet and not overtly matey way.

Very interesting insights Whistleblower, many thanks. While I do agree that body shape might lend to a perception that his positioning is poorer, I would be very confident that if one were to analyse his level of penetration into the penalty are and average distance from play they would be in the lower rankings of SG1 referees. That said, positioning is not everything, Marriner and Dean two fantastic referees I would guess would also be in the lower half in terms of those parameters.

With respect to his interactions with players I do think that at the top level it is not only a case of making an effort to interact with them it is also important to be seen to do so when appropriate of course. I remember one referee coach speaking about body language saying basically why make the point to only one when you can make it to however many are looking at you!
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #24 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 17:29 »
That is a huge game for Mason, very surprised he has that one.

Happy with Taylor for us at Palace, and good to see Attwell pick up a decent top six clash.

Mason has refereed around 300 premier league games, a championship final and league cup final I doubt that he is not capable of refereeing West Brom v Brighton.

Would that more than 1.35% of the footballing fraternity shared your confidence. If Mason had been around at the heyday of our top English refs in the 70s and 80s I doubt he would have got anywhere near a PL car park, let alone pitch side. His Cup Final appearances are not a reflection on his own ability, more a case of a lack of quality among referees and poor management by those at the top,

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #25 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 17:36 »
I look forward to your thoughts on the appropriate thread Hendo!

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #26 on: Sat 27 Feb 2021 18:11 »
I think one official may well be replaced on Wednesday night.....

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #27 on: Sun 28 Feb 2021 11:33 »
Mason replaced by John Brooks today for Liverpool game, apparently picked up an injury yesterday

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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #28 on: Sun 28 Feb 2021 14:31 »
That seems oddly rather convenient to me.....
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Re: Sat 27th FEB – Thu 4th MAR 2021
« Reply #29 on: Sun 28 Feb 2021 18:47 »
Parking the Mason controversy for a moment, how is it any way sensible to appoint a referee as fourth official for a game taking place the day after he has refereed a Premier League game.  The fourth official could be called up on to officiate at any time - perhaps for the whole game if the appointed referee tweaks a hammy in the warm up.  No referee could or should be put in the position of potentially refereeing two Premier League games in consecutive days.  If players were asked to do that  ....  :o
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