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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #45 on: Sun 09 May 2021 11:04 »
according to flash scores app these are the midweek ref appointments inc the rearranged Man U/liverpool fixture

Tuesday

Man U/leicester-pawson
southampton/palace-madley

Wednesday

Chelsea/arsenal-marriner

thursday

villa/everton-atkinson
manned/liverpool-oliver


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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #46 on: Sun 09 May 2021 13:51 »
according to flash scores app these are the midweek ref appointments inc the rearranged Man U/liverpool fixture

Tuesday

Man U/leicester-pawson
southampton/palace-madley

Wednesday

Chelsea/arsenal-marriner

thursday

villa/everton-atkinson
manned/liverpool-oliver

No confirmation from PGMOL yet. It won't be Oliver if he's on the Fa Cup final on Saturday
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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #47 on: Sun 09 May 2021 16:05 »
according to flash scores app these are the midweek ref appointments inc the rearranged Man U/liverpool fixture

Tuesday

Man U/leicester-pawson
southampton/palace-madley

Wednesday

Chelsea/arsenal-marriner

thursday

villa/everton-atkinson
manned/liverpool-oliver

They're just taken from the original appointments.  I imagine they will stay the same apart from Oliver.
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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #48 on: Sun 09 May 2021 16:32 »
Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #49 on: Sun 09 May 2021 16:40 »
Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #50 on: Sun 09 May 2021 16:57 »
Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
I wouldn’t say poor but average. Second yellow for Watkins was a bit harsh but right. I agree the penalty should have been given for Greenwood’s handball, so i’d say another poor performance from Gillett the VAR. I know someone would say the ball came so fast that Greenwood could not move his arms but that’s not a natural position imo. Maybe Cavani should’ve been cautioned for tripping El Ghazi which led to Maguire’s injury?

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #51 on: Sun 09 May 2021 17:20 »
Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
I wouldn’t say poor but average. Second yellow for Watkins was a bit harsh but right. I agree the penalty should have been given for Greenwood’s handball, so i’d say another poor performance from Gillett the VAR. I know someone would say the ball came so fast that Greenwood could not move his arms but that’s not a natural position imo. Maybe Cavani should’ve been cautioned for tripping El Ghazi which led to Maguire’s injury?

Has Gillett had many other poor VAR performances?

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #52 on: Sun 09 May 2021 17:50 »
Agree, and Sterling's argument seems to be that he was prevented from bringing his foot back to shoot rather than saying he was fouled.  Having watched it multiple times I am still unclear on what contact there was, and I certainly don't think VAR could deem this as a clear and obvious error.

Sterling lucky to be on the pitch anyway. Seen people sent off for less, and surprised review not recommended for consistency with other red cards seen lately !
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Fair point.  I missed a few minutes of the game and hadn't seen that incident until MotD.  What sanction was given if any?
My feeling about the 'penalty' claimed by City was that another referee on a different day might have given it and it wouldn't have resulted in an OFR either.  It looked clumsy but I'm not totally convinced there was enough there to justify a penalty.
Sterling was issued with a yellow card, i agree it could have easily been red on current interpretation of the laws of the game.
I dont suppose aguero will take another penalty for city, or not until the game after the title is secured.


Sterling's tackle could easily have warranted a red card on another occasion. Idle speculation but I do wonder if Anthony Taylor had been refereeing in Europe and that sort of tackle was made whether the sanction would have been the same ?

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #53 on: Sun 09 May 2021 18:02 »
Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
I wouldn’t say poor but average. Second yellow for Watkins was a bit harsh but right. I agree the penalty should have been given for Greenwood’s handball, so i’d say another poor performance from Gillett the VAR. I know someone would say the ball came so fast that Greenwood could not move his arms but that’s not a natural position imo. Maybe Cavani should’ve been cautioned for tripping El Ghazi which led to Maguire’s injury?

Has Gillett had many other poor VAR performances?
As an arsenal fan I remember it well that last season he made Mr Atkinson disallow a late goal from Chambers for a foul (which did not exist) against Palace which could have been a winning shot. Later it was considered his mistake and he had been out of big six games in PL until this season.
He’s been doing fine as VAR this season and I remember he had some great moments, but the handball by Greenwood was so obvious that he should’ve advise Kavanagh to come to the screen. Penalty for me so ‘Another’ poor performance from him imo.
I know he is highly thought of in championship and he is also a potential promotion. I’ve been waiting for his on-field PL debut but it is yet to come.
I wonder if any controversial moments on Gillett I haven’t noticed?
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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #54 on: Sun 09 May 2021 18:44 »
I actually think that Jarred Gillett got the handball spot on. If that was giving at the other end for a penalty there would be people fuming that United got another penalty.

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #55 on: Sun 09 May 2021 18:59 »
I actually think that Jarred Gillett got the handball spot on. If that was giving at the other end for a penalty there would be people fuming that United got another penalty.

And as it is people are fuming that Utd got away again with NOT conceding a penalty when the majority of us feel it should have been.

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #56 on: Sun 09 May 2021 19:13 »
I actually think that Jarred Gillett got the handball spot on. If that was giving at the other end for a penalty there would be people fuming that United got another penalty.

And as it is people are fuming that Utd got away again with NOT conceding a penalty when the majority of us feel it should have been.

To be honest, none of us really know what is and isn't a handball because of how bad the rules are. There needs to be a concrete rule that says it is or isn't a handball

As for Gillett, you can't blame him for the 2nd yellow. Var can't overturn yellow cards. It was an infield mistake from Kavanagh. No foul but no dive

I'd say he will be promoted next year as he is getting bing VAR appearances
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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #57 on: Sun 09 May 2021 19:30 »
Kavanagh with the big decisions correct.

Clear simulation and second yellow. We should not be condoning this behaviour. Even the commentators agreed.

Good performance overall.

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #58 on: Sun 09 May 2021 19:56 »
Kavanagh with the big decisions correct.

Clear simulation and second yellow. We should not be condoning this behaviour. Even the commentators agreed.

Good performance overall.

And your views on the Villa penalty that was not given?

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Re: Fri 7th – Thu 13th MAY 2021
« Reply #59 on: Sun 09 May 2021 20:01 »
no villa pen and second yellow was correct according to sky co commentator