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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #15 on: Fri 30 Apr 2021 20:13 »
Oh Robert............

I have to say it was a foul as the follow through was bad. I'd say its a yellow not a red as ball was too far in front of Vardy
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #16 on: Fri 30 Apr 2021 20:40 »
DGSO apparently. Nasty follow through, off his feet, out of control, injured opponent and  prevented a goal scoring opportunity. Not an obvious goal but keeper would have to kick the ball with Vardy on him but for tackle. Defender made a mistake and these days you must stay on your feet.
It has long been established that you cannot tackle and take player out thereby preventing him from playing the loose ball.
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #17 on: Fri 30 Apr 2021 20:42 »
DGSO apparently. Nasty follow through, off his feet, out of control, injured opponent and  prevented a goal scoring opportunity. Not an obvious goal but keeper would have to kick the ball with Vardy on him but for tackle. Defender made a mistake and these days you must stay on your feet.
It has long been established that you cannot tackle and take player out thereby preventing him from playing the loose ball.

Its one of those ones where neither side will be happy and both have reasons to be annoyed. In my opinion its a tad harsh but I see where ur coming from
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #18 on: Fri 30 Apr 2021 23:55 »
Take your pick really, if you foul an attacker on the edge of the penalty area with no other defender even close you are very unlikely to stay on.  Add to that it was a straight legged challenge that caught Vardy on the ankle it could easily have been SFP as well.  I said red immediately and there was no doubt in my mind he would be off there.
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #19 on: Sat 01 May 2021 00:11 »
I cannot for the life of me see what youíre on about GameDay2021. You could argue the challenge is minimum reckless (and itís clearly DOGSO once a foul is awarded) when if the challenge doesnít happen Vardy is running in on goal with no one else around him. You could also potentially argue itís SFP as the follow through is on the borderline between reckless and endangering safety of an opponent. Just had to be a red card.

Thought Jones and his team had a really good game tonight. Two big calls, both 100% correct. Pundits on the television as per usual trying to cause an argument about anything our officials do. Thatís the biggest annoyance as an ex ref watching sky these days...
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #20 on: Sat 01 May 2021 00:26 »
I cannot for the life of me see what youíre on about GameDay2021. You could argue the challenge is minimum reckless (and itís clearly DOGSO once a foul is awarded) when if the challenge doesnít happen Vardy is running in on goal with no one else around him. You could also potentially argue itís SFP as the follow through is on the borderline between reckless and endangering safety of an opponent. Just had to be a red card.

Thought Jones and his team had a really good game tonight. Two big calls, both 100% correct. Pundits on the television as per usual trying to cause an argument about anything our officials do. Thatís the biggest annoyance as an ex ref watching sky these days...

You need to look at it from both sides. Its clearly one of the where no one will be happy. Its going to divide people. Some will say he got the ball. Theyve a point. Some will say the pass was too near the keeper to be a red. Theyve got a point. Some will be like u. Theyve got a point

My point being no one is going to be happy. The pundits have a point. They have a clue and wouldnt be pundits if they didn't. My view was red the minute I saw it. Now I think yellow. I'll probably wake up tomorrow and think something else.

Its just one of those ones. We could argue til the cows come home and there's no point having an argy bargy over it
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #21 on: Sat 01 May 2021 10:10 »
I cannot for the life of me see what youíre on about GameDay2021. You could argue the challenge is minimum reckless (and itís clearly DOGSO once a foul is awarded) when if the challenge doesnít happen Vardy is running in on goal with no one else around him. You could also potentially argue itís SFP as the follow through is on the borderline between reckless and endangering safety of an opponent. Just had to be a red card.

Thought Jones and his team had a really good game tonight. Two big calls, both 100% correct. Pundits on the television as per usual trying to cause an argument about anything our officials do. Thatís the biggest annoyance as an ex ref watching sky these days...

You need to look at it from both sides. Its clearly one of the where no one will be happy. Its going to divide people. Some will say he got the ball. Theyve a point. Some will say the pass was too near the keeper to be a red. Theyve got a point. Some will be like u. Theyve got a point

My point being no one is going to be happy. The pundits have a point. They have a clue and wouldnt be pundits if they didn't. My view was red the minute I saw it. Now I think yellow. I'll probably wake up tomorrow and think something else.

Its just one of those ones. We could argue til the cows come home and there's no point having an argy bargy over it

I think the key here is that you felt red immediately but in hindsight would now call yellow. Rob Jones had to make an immediate call and went red too. Interestingly after all the nonsense interventions from VAR in recent weeks Jonathan Moss didnít feel he needed to overrule and quite right in my view.
Like others I felt Jones had a good solid game and would hope this will give him added confidence to push on and establish himself. I have to say I always felt that the potential is there to be an outstanding referee, more so than Darren England, but seeing the separate on-going thread it is clear the latter has settled more into PL life. In the longer run only time will tell hi goes in to have the most stellar career.
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #22 on: Sat 01 May 2021 10:16 »
Thanks for reply GameDay... I certainly donít want any trouble either. Iím far too old for any of that!!!

Iíd seen your recent comments over the last few weeks when youíve not been particularly positive about any of our officials and felt it needed to be said. I feel they got the two big decisions right last night, and thatís what we ask of them.

Fingers crossed it gives Jones the confidence to push on now. Like you said Hendo, so many of us on here have seen him as a potential big name in SG1 in the coming years. Letís hope that he realises that.

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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #23 on: Sat 01 May 2021 10:48 »
I cannot for the life of me see what youíre on about GameDay2021. You could argue the challenge is minimum reckless (and itís clearly DOGSO once a foul is awarded) when if the challenge doesnít happen Vardy is running in on goal with no one else around him. You could also potentially argue itís SFP as the follow through is on the borderline between reckless and endangering safety of an opponent. Just had to be a red card.

Thought Jones and his team had a really good game tonight. Two big calls, both 100% correct. Pundits on the television as per usual trying to cause an argument about anything our officials do. Thatís the biggest annoyance as an ex ref watching sky these days...

You need to look at it from both sides. Its clearly one of the where no one will be happy. Its going to divide people. Some will say he got the ball. Theyve a point. Some will say the pass was too near the keeper to be a red. Theyve got a point. Some will be like u. Theyve got a point

My point being no one is going to be happy. The pundits have a point. They have a clue and wouldnt be pundits if they didn't. My view was red the minute I saw it. Now I think yellow. I'll probably wake up tomorrow and think something else.

Its just one of those ones. We could argue til the cows come home and there's no point having an argy bargy over it

I think the key here is that you felt red immediately but in hindsight would now call yellow. Rob Jones had to make an immediate call and went red too. Interestingly after all the nonsense interventions from VAR in recent weeks Jonathan Moss didnít feel he needed to overrule and quite right in my view.
Like others I felt Jones had a good solid game and would hope this will give him added confidence to push on and establish himself. I have to say I always felt that the potential is there to be an outstanding referee, more so than Darren England, but seeing the separate on-going thread it is clear the latter has settled more into PL life. In the longer run only time will tell hi goes in to have the most stellar career.

I get your point. I do agree it was one of his better performances though. He settled in to the game which is something he struggled to do in other games. He looked relaxed last night
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #24 on: Sat 01 May 2021 10:52 »
Thanks for reply GameDay... I certainly donít want any trouble either. Iím far too old for any of that!!!

Iíd seen your recent comments over the last few weeks when youíve not been particularly positive about any of our officials and felt it needed to be said. I feel they got the two big decisions right last night, and thatís what we ask of them.

Fingers crossed it gives Jones the confidence to push on now. Like you said Hendo, so many of us on here have seen him as a potential big name in SG1 in the coming years. Letís hope that he realises that.

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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #25 on: Sat 01 May 2021 12:44 »
This has to be definitely Serious Foul Play or definitely DOGSO.  What it cannot be is a bit of both so that adds up to a red card. 

Painful that it was, I am not convinced on Serious Foul Play.  Just because the defender made a (horrendous) mistake that does not mean he cannot try and recover the ball.  He did nick the ball but then caught Vardy with his follow through.  Is there a difference from the case of the West Ham player who cleared the ball, caught the opponent, got a VAR inspired red card and then successfully appealed?

DOGSO is equally doubtful for me - the keeper was slight favourite.

Its a yellow for me - but arguable up to a red (unlike the West Ham one!).
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #26 on: Sat 01 May 2021 14:19 »
I cannot for the life of me see what youíre on about GameDay2021. You could argue the challenge is minimum reckless (and itís clearly DOGSO once a foul is awarded) when if the challenge doesnít happen Vardy is running in on goal with no one else around him. You could also potentially argue itís SFP as the follow through is on the borderline between reckless and endangering safety of an opponent. Just had to be a red card.

Thought Jones and his team had a really good game tonight. Two big calls, both 100% correct. Pundits on the television as per usual trying to cause an argument about anything our officials do. Thatís the biggest annoyance as an ex ref watching sky these days...

You need to look at it from both sides. Its clearly one of the where no one will be happy. Its going to divide people. Some will say he got the ball. Theyve a point. Some will say the pass was too near the keeper to be a red. Theyve got a point. Some will be like u. Theyve got a point

My point being no one is going to be happy. The pundits have a point. They have a clue and wouldnt be pundits if they didn't. My view was red the minute I saw it. Now I think yellow. I'll probably wake up tomorrow and think something else.

Its just one of those ones. We could argue til the cows come home and there's no point having an argy bargy over it


"The pundits have a point. They have a clue and wouldnt be pundits if they didn't."

Do you really believe that about some of them?
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #27 on: Sat 01 May 2021 14:35 »
Competent display from David Coote at Selhurst Park although he didn't have a lot to do as City eased to yet another victory. Yellow card was correct as was the decision to rule out a City opener in the 1st half for offside following consultation with the VAR. United v Liverpool game tomorrow becomes key as United seek to delay for another week the inevitable march by City to the title.
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #28 on: Sat 01 May 2021 18:50 »
Competent display from David Coote at Selhurst Park although he didn't have a lot to do as City eased to yet another victory. Yellow card was correct as was the decision to rule out a City opener in the 1st half for offside following consultation with the VAR. United v Liverpool game tomorrow becomes key as United seek to delay for another week the inevitable march by City to the title.

I agree. Like Jones he seems to be starting to settle onto the PL. Hopefully some big games for him soon

Good one for Kavanagh as well. Got the pen right. Similar to Coote, nothing big to do but got all the simple things right
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Re: Fri 30th APR Ė Mon 3rd MAY 2021
« Reply #29 on: Sat 01 May 2021 19:24 »
Competent display from David Coote at Selhurst Park although he didn't have a lot to do as City eased to yet another victory. Yellow card was correct as was the decision to rule out a City opener in the 1st half for offside following consultation with the VAR. United v Liverpool game tomorrow becomes key as United seek to delay for another week the inevitable march by City to the title.

I agree. Like Jones he seems to be starting to settle onto the PL. Hopefully some big games for him soon

Good one for Kavanagh as well. Got the pen right. Similar to Coote, nothing big to do but got all the simple things right

Great performance from Friend too. Proved me wrong after what I said on Tuesday
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