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Author Topic: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024  (Read 4273 times)

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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
« Reply #15 on: Fri 08 Nov 2024 16:51 »
IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down.  He knew from a while back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it was for the wrong reasons, that we know.  Signing autographs at Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!

Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is there on merit.  I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.

Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.


I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr Mackay.

Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.

As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly. My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an autograph book and not a blank cheque.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
« Reply #16 on: Fri 08 Nov 2024 17:29 »
IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down.  He knew from a while back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it was for the wrong reasons, that we know.  Signing autographs at Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!

Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is there on merit.  I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.

Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.


I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr Mackay.

Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.

As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly. My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an autograph book and not a blank cheque.

I think timing is key with regards to autographs, if it’s on arrival or during the warm-up I think it’s fine but signing as you are about to go on for the second half is always going to gather attention with the cameras rolling at that stage.

I’ve got lots of autographs from current referees including Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and National List. I usually ask them on arrival and most are friendly. I have only ever had one refusal.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
« Reply #17 on: Fri 08 Nov 2024 20:29 »
IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down.  He knew from a while back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it was for the wrong reasons, that we know.  Signing autographs at Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!

Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is there on merit.  I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.

Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.


I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr Mackay.

Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.

As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly. My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an autograph book and not a blank cheque.

I think timing is key with regards to autographs, if it’s on arrival or during the warm-up I think it’s fine but signing as you are about to go on for the second half is always going to gather attention with the cameras rolling at that stage.

I’ve got lots of autographs from current referees including Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and National List. I usually ask them on arrival and most are friendly. I have only ever had one refusal.

Oh, do say who the refusal was. As a jest I once asked Peter Jones for his autograph and he would only give it on condition that I gave him mine first ! !
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
« Reply #18 on: Sat 09 Nov 2024 08:50 »
IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down.  He knew from a while back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it was for the wrong reasons, that we know.  Signing autographs at Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!

Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is there on merit.  I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.

Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.


I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr Mackay.

Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.

As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly. My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an autograph book and not a blank cheque.

I think timing is key with regards to autographs, if it’s on arrival or during the warm-up I think it’s fine but signing as you are about to go on for the second half is always going to gather attention with the cameras rolling at that stage.

I’ve got lots of autographs from current referees including Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and National List. I usually ask them on arrival and most are friendly. I have only ever had one refusal.

Oh, do say who the refusal was. As a jest I once asked Peter Jones for his autograph and he would only give it on condition that I gave him mine first ! !
It was Ben Speedie but I think it was more because he was surprised to be asked rather than arrogance haha.

I am trying to get all referee’s from Select Group 1 right down to the National Group. I’ve probably got about half currently and added Andrew Kitchen and Lewis Smith to my collection in the last couple of weeks.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
« Reply #19 on: Sun 10 Nov 2024 22:16 »
I thought Lewis Smith was excellent earlier in the Steel City derby. Wasn’t the most crazy of derbies but I can only think of a couple of minor decisions I disagreed with. He gave a couple of really soft free kicks early on and I worried he’d set a bad precedent but no issues after that. He’ll have tougher games but as derby games go, he sailed through.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
« Reply #20 on: Sun 10 Nov 2024 23:17 »
I thought Lewis Smith was excellent earlier in the Steel City derby. Wasn’t the most crazy of derbies but I can only think of a couple of minor decisions I disagreed with. He gave a couple of really soft free kicks early on and I worried he’d set a bad precedent but no issues after that. He’ll have tougher games but as derby games go, he sailed through.

Agree, as a supporter of the losing team I thought he was very good.  I was surprised it didn't get given to an SG1 official as it is one of the most intense derbies in football, but Lewis justified their decision.
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