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New Years Honours 2019
« on: Sat 29 Dec 2018 09:01 »
As ever I greeted the list with a mixture of consensus, surprise and downright confusion.

Would anyone like to go first before I launch into my customary assessment?

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Re: New Years Honours 2019
« Reply #1 on: Sun 30 Dec 2018 10:58 »
I think it’s nothing short of a complete farce and some of it is an utter disgrace!
I don’t mean to be rude to Alastair cook but he’s been retired 5 mins and given a knighthood? You what!
Harry Kane and Gareth Southgate given mbe’s for what, doing their jobs? Hiw long did it take Geoff hurst to be knighted? Bobby Moore the England CAPTAIN in 1966 never got a stitch.
Harry Gregg saved countless lives in the Munich air crash and is given an honour 60 years later. Do me a favour!

Would anyone like me to continue?
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Re: New Years Honours 2019
« Reply #2 on: Mon 31 Dec 2018 09:56 »
From memory, Bobby Moore did get an OBE but a very middle ranking honour for a major achievement, especially in the days when monetary rewards were far less than today.  Also from memory I believe that for winning the World Cup, from the FA the squad got a £22,000 bonus (ie £1,000 each).  Alf Ramsey was of course knighted.

But I agree the whole system is today even more of a farce.  Even the names of the honours are outdated and archaic - don't they know we haven't had an empire for 80 years?  And as for Senior Civil Servants getting their automatic knighthood or damehood for doing no more than turning up for work - totally scandalous!  The whole thing needs a thorough review or scrapping altogether.  I'm all for awards for outstanding bravery but for doing your job - I think not.
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Re: New Years Honours 2019
« Reply #3 on: Mon 31 Dec 2018 12:53 »
Think I have said this before. A few years ago we tried locally to get some kind of recognition for a chap who had spent almost 50 years as a voluntary scout leader, running camps and jamborees as well as a thriving group of his own; he was also treasurer and booking secretary for a local music society which attracted numerous high profile musicians and orchestras to our town; was in Rotary for over 30 years, serving as chairman, secretary and treasurer in that time; and was a volunteer in other fund raising organisations. In all these years he must have given pleasure to literally thousands of folk directly or indirectly. And he also held down a full time management job at the local shoe manufacturers.
We tried twice but never got anywhere.
(Ironically his sister was made a dame the following year for working as an advisor to the Treasury)
What criteria meet the standards for a gong beat me. Maybe he should have played mediocre football for his country, scored a few penalties and a couple of tap ins against part time postmen and done bugger all else.😜
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Re: New Years Honours 2019
« Reply #4 on: Wed 02 Jan 2019 08:35 »
I have a feeling it’s more about who does the nominating than who is nominated.
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Re: New Years Honours 2019
« Reply #5 on: Wed 02 Jan 2019 15:15 »
An astute comment Plym-Nick and not at all wide of the mark.
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Re: New Years Honours 2019
« Reply #6 on: Wed 02 Jan 2019 19:21 »
If it's January or June, it must be honours time on RTR and I quietly despair. For reasons which I shall not go into, I look through the honours list each time, not to try and find my name which will never appear, but to find with great satisfaction people I have known over the years, either at work or in one of my many hobbies and activities. Just over 1100 honours were awarded this time, of which 770 were MBEs or BEMs. These were not awarded to senior civil servants or MPs but to ordinary folk who have given their time and energy over the years in their chosen fields, many of them voluntary. OK, the system is not perfect, sports people get in for doing not a lot, but it is a lot better than it used to be when awards were often made for length of service in a public sector organisation. However those days have gone and, whilst it would be nice to see more names on the list each time, I think we have an honours system in place which does recognise outstanding service, which is how it ought to be. And as for the name of the different awards, well I couldn't care a stuff what they call them as long as they are recognised for what they represent. Enough said!   
« Last Edit: Wed 02 Jan 2019 20:04 by Acme Thunderer »