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Author Topic: England v New Zealand Rugby Union International  (Read 158 times)

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England v New Zealand Rugby Union International
« on: Mon 12 Nov 2018 19:27 »
Along with a few others, I have previously commented that the football authorities could well draw on the experience of other sports, especially rugby union, to help overcome the teething problems as well as the whole principle of VAR to assist referees.

Seeing the end of Saturday's international when England were denied what would have been a winning try in the closing seconds following the intervention of the TMO, I am not quite so sure now.  The disallowed try was disallowed for offside after initially being awarded by the on field French referee Jerome Garces.  In The Times, former international referee Rob Debney says that it was both a wrong decision and a breach of protocol.  My knowledge of the technicalities of the offside law is so limited, I can't comment on whether or not it was offside but it was generally acknowledged to be a very close call.  Debney makes a strong case that the scorer was not offside but I won't attempt to summarise his argument which is very technical. The TMO, a South African I think from the accent, clearly told the referee after several replays that he must reverse his decision to award the try although, as Debney points out, the decision to award a try, under the regulations, must be made by the referee and not by the TMO.  He also says that the TMO relied on replays from only one camera which was at an angle creating a false perspective whereas the referee had a perfect view of the incident.

I guess, even with video evidence, mistakes may still be made but, whatever the technical evidence available, the human element will still always have an impact.
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The main issue was that none of the onfield officials queried it so whether the TMO had the authority to intervene on a question of offside is debatable in itself. Had Garces asked "Try yes or no" then any benefit of doubt falls witj the defending team so you could argue Itoje was a foot offside. Had he asked "Any reason I cant award the try" then the evidence must be clear and obvious. The ruck from which the ball emerges moves forward as the scrum half goes to pick the ball up and Itoje does not adjust his position, therefore offside.
Possibly correct decision got at via an incorrect process. Garces had issues with comms too so in the end had no option but to accept the TMO's opinion.