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SIX NATIONS 2022
« on: Fri 07 Jan 2022 11:12 »
Usually by now we would have found out the appointments but I suspect Covid and the current suggestion that all the games be hosted in England may have something to do with the delay.
I would be interested to hear what our rugby union experts on here think about the possibility of this and also how that might leave the tricky subject of appointments. Are we likely to see no refs from the SH this year ( in the case of a certain South African a definite blessing in my opinion) with all matches refereed by NH refs? Even then are there likely to be restrictions on some refs travelling which could even mean some refereeing their own country?

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #1 on: Fri 07 Jan 2022 12:23 »
Hopefully not Poite

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #2 on: Fri 07 Jan 2022 12:51 »
Hopefully not Poite

He's retired, so wont be him.

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #3 on: Fri 07 Jan 2022 13:07 »
France is currently implementing vaccination conditions.
Rob Baxter from Exeter suggested hosting in 1 country (which I assume would be England)

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #4 on: Fri 07 Jan 2022 16:32 »
European club matches going ahead with exemptions agreed and in place for clubs and officials.

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #5 on: Fri 07 Jan 2022 18:26 »
I'm guessing that WR/6N will be working "week by week" rather than for the entire block. With W1 on 5th/6th February (IrvW, SvE, FvIt) appointments probably not known until mid-January & probably all NH. Whether any SH officials feature may take more time to resolve. Matt Carley & Luke Pearce were able to spend several weeks in Australia where NZ/SA/OZ/Arg fixtures were all held Jul/Aug last year: not so straightforward to reciprocate for the likes of Gardner, Berry, Williams, O'Keefe, Peyper & Jacobs (6 'random' names). All things considered, I'd be surprised to see any SH officials before W3.
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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #6 on: Sat 08 Jan 2022 10:25 »
European games next weekend are all going ahead following a meeting with previous postponed games being squeezed in at a later date I think they want to get the competition free of postponements with the pool games followed by rd 16 all the way to finals weekend
Wales are disappointed that they might not have crowds for their fixtures due to covid but it will be interesting if anything changes hopefully Dickson Carley barnes Pearce will get involved if not on the pitch but as a t.m.o unless that job will go to foley
if its safe they might bring Gardner or berry, Williams, pickerill or o Keefe?

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #7 on: Sat 08 Jan 2022 10:53 »
related to six nations and reported by bbcsport
Six Nations 2022: Welsh Rugby Union considering hosting games in England

Last updated on 5 January 20225 January 2022.
From the section Welsh Rugby
Ryan Elias and Wales team-mates celebrate
Wales fans were there to celebrate along with try-scorer Ryan Elias as the hosts beat Australia in Cardiff in November 2021
The Welsh Rugby Union is considering playing home Six Nations games in England because of Covid crowd restrictions in Wales.

First Minister Mark Drakeford imposed restrictions on sporting events in Wales, effectively meaning professional games are behind closed doors.

There is no date set for when measures could be eased, with the next review scheduled for 7 January.

Wales are due to host Scotland in Cardiff on 12 February.

Faletau expected to be fit for start of Six Nations
Sturgeon hopes Scotland's Six Nations matches can 'go ahead to crowds'
Wayne Pivac's side are also scheduled to meet France on 11 March and Italy eight days later at the Principality Stadium, meaning Wales could face the prospect of playing over half the competition on home soil with no fans.


Welsh Government would be ‘disappointed’ if Wales games switched to England
As things stand, sporting events in England have no restrictions, so Wales' visit to Twickenham on 26 February will be played before a full house of 82,000, provided spectators can prove full vaccination status or show a negative lateral flow test.

Wales launch the defence of their Six Nations title against Ireland in Dublin on 5 February, with current restrictions of 5,000 fans there.

Scotland also has restrictions on spectator numbers of 500, France has a limit of 5,000 fans and Italy has a Covid pass system in place after tightening restrictions in December.

The WRU lost £13.5m in matchday revenue during the 2021 Six Nations after home games against England and Ireland were played behind closed doors.

The WRU's preference is to play home fixtures this year in front of full crowds in Cardiff and the union hopes restrictions will be lifted in time.

There are major logistical issues in relocating matches including tickets already sold for the games, availability of stadiums and public health concerns, with the prospect of thousands of Welsh fans travelling to England and back.

The WRU has also stressed throughout the pandemic it will abide by and support Welsh government's policy on public health. The governing body will also rely on future financial assistance from the Welsh government.

This is the second time the WRU has considered moving games to England after exploring the possibility for the Autumn Nations Cup in November 2020, when the Principality Stadium was used as a field hospital.

On that occasion Wales ended up playing their matches at Parc y Scarlets in Llanelli with no spectators.

Wembley Stadium will not be able to host any Welsh Six Nations games this year because of preparations for England international football games in March.

Other venues with the capacity required would be West Ham's London Stadium, Arsenal's Emirates Stadium or the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which WRU officials visited in late 2020.

That venue would prove troublesome this time around because two of the three weekends clash with Tottenham home matches in the Premier League.

Six Nations organisers are monitoring the situation with meetings this week which they hope will offer more clarity on the situation in each of the countries.

'Welsh pound should be spent in Cardiff not London'

Health Minister Eluned Morgan says the Welsh Government would be disappointed if matches were staged outside of Wales and warned of financial consequences for the WRU.

"There would be a Welsh government understanding we would have to step in to support them financially if they did have to postpone those matches or cancel them in some way," said Ms Morgan.

"If they decide to go to England that would be more difficult for us to come up with that financial support."

Under Covid-19 restrictions imposed by the Welsh government, only 50 spectators are permitted to view outdoor events.

The guidelines are reviewed weekly and Mr Drakeford has so far refused to give public assurances fans will be allowed to return in time for the Six Nations as case numbers for the Omicron variant continue to surge.

Wales wing Louis Rees-Zammit, who plays for English club Gloucester, says fans must be allowed to watch the games, even if it means matches being moved.


Report
Andrew Davies, leader of the Welsh Conservatives in the Senedd, says lifting crowd restrictions should be considered.

"Many people in Wales will tell you that the current restrictions do not make sense," he said.

"I am cautiously optimistic the initial fear over Omicron is not coming to pass and the Labour government needs to have a long hard think about if these restrictions are completely necessary on Friday [7 January].

"It would be another blow to the Welsh economy if more of the Welsh pound is spent in London and not Cardiff."

A Welsh government spokesperson said: "As a result of the rapidly spreading Omicron variant, Wales is currently at alert level two. The cabinet is reviewing the situation on a weekly basis."


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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #8 on: Sun 09 Jan 2022 11:00 »
Yep, we certainly would have the appointments by now!
It's going to be an interesting situation as actually hosting in England would make sense due to the relaxed restrictions in place - also meaning that SH officials could well come over without issues.
Of course the preferred option would be to host in each union's country with fans and a relaxed approach.
Regarding SH officials - I tend to agree with comments above, we may not see them until week 3.

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #9 on: Mon 10 Jan 2022 19:58 »
we possibly might not have any sh referees at all-might just be all British

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #10 on: Mon 17 Jan 2022 13:10 »
Round One:

Ireland v Wales
Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
TMO: Stuart Terheege (England)

Scotland V England
Referee: Ben O’Keefe (New Zealand)
Assistant Referee: Nic Berry (Australia)
Assistant Referee: Craig Evans (Wales)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (Wales)

France V Italy
Referee: Mike Adamson (Scotland)
Assistant Referee: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia)
Assistant Referee: Damon Murphy (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

Round 2:

Wales V Scotland
Referee: Nic Berry (Australia)
Assistant Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
Assistant Referee: Chris Busby (Ireland)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)

France V Ireland
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referee: Ben O’Keefe (New Zealand)
Assistant Referee: Craig Evans (Wales)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (Wales)

Italy V England
Referee: Damon Murphy (Australia)
Assistant Referee: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant Referee: Pierre Brousset (France)
TMO: Brian MacNeice (Ireland)

Round Three:

Scotland V France
Referee: Karl Dickson (England)
Assistant Referee: Luke Pearce (England)
Assistant Referee: Chris Busby (Ireland)
TMO: Tom Foley (England)

England V Wales
Referee: Mike Adamson (Scotland)
Assistant Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant Referee: Frank Murphy (Ireland)
TMO: Brian MacNeice (Ireland)

Ireland V Italy
Referee: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia)
Assistant Referee: Matthew Carley (England)
Assistant Referee: Christophe Ridley (England)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (France)

Round Four:

Wales V France
Referee: Matthew Carley (England)
Assistant Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant Referee: Andrea Piardi (Italy)
TMO: Tom Foley (England)

Italy V Scotland
Referee: Luke Pearce (England)
Assistant Referee: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant Referee: Craig Evans (Wales)
TMO: Stuart Terheege (England)

England V Ireland
Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Assistant Referee: Mike Adamson (Scotland)
Assistant Referee: Pierre Brousset (France)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)

Round Five:

Wales V Italy
Referee: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant Referee: Matthew Carley (England)
Assistant Referee: Tual Trainini (France)
TMO: Joy Neville (Ireland)

Ireland V Scotland
Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
Assistant Referee: Karl Dickson (England)
Assistant Referee: Christophe Ridley (England)
TMO: Stuart Terheege (England)

France V England
Referee: Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Assistant Referee: Mike Adamson (Scotland)
Assistant Referee: Frank Murphy (Ireland)
TMO: Marius Jonker (South Africa)
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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #11 on: Mon 17 Jan 2022 13:17 »
Amount of matches for each referee:

Jaco Peyper- 2
Mike Adamson- 2
Ben O’Keefe- 1
Nic Berry- 1
Angus Gardner- 1
Damon Murphy- 1 (debut)
Karl Dickson- 1 (debut)
Nika Amashukeli- 1 (debut)
Matthew Carley- 1
Luke Pearce- 1
Mathieu Raynal- 1
Andrew Brace- 1
Wayne Barnes- 1
« Last Edit: Mon 17 Jan 2022 13:23 by tomp »
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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #12 on: Mon 17 Jan 2022 17:03 »
Ahhhhhhhhh! Really???????

Pleased to have O'Keefe in Edinburgh, Damon Murphy had a good Autumn so a solid run around for him in Rome
Adamson has got to prove himself in the Cardiff Cauldron
Raynal I like, so thats good.
In Paris you need a tough-skinned, experienced, well respected official....Nigel has gone so we get Jaco 😶🙄

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #13 on: Mon 17 Jan 2022 17:06 »
Glad to see Nika get a game, been impressed with him in European games.
Match Day 2 belongs to the Aussies - interesting there is only 1 Kiwi involved
Otherwise a good spread of appointments.
Dickson cementing 4th spot from England

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Re: SIX NATIONS 2022
« Reply #14 on: Mon 17 Jan 2022 17:24 »
Great to see debuts from Nika, Karl & Damon. Tbh I expected to see Craig Evans with a debut too. Maybe Nika is ahead of Craig in terms of a push for the WC.
Agree, the surprise is that only 1 Kiwi involved with an abundance of Aussie's included. Williams potentially unavailable and no sign of Pickerill either which is interesting.
No surprises for me that the big guns are out in R5 - I had Jonker set for France v England and not complaining either!
Jonker (despite an error last time round) retains his role.
They are really pushing Mike Adamson (almost overkill) - so he MUST be in for a real shout in France 23.
Judging by the NH appointments, you could look at the fact they need the experience in the latter rounds with potential deciders for Raynal & Barnes. By giving Carley & Dickson what on paper looks to be a tougher matches (no disrespect to the other teams), Pearce & Brace have pretty much cemented their places on the list.
Not a bad set of appointments and nicely spread.