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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #30 on: Sun 14 Mar 2021 19:26 »
Romain was at his inconsistent/eclectic best today, not sure anyone knew who would get penalised at breakdown. Some patches of "hair scare" rugby, ended up with Ireland playing the edges that little bit better.
He is an institution but I feel he is passed his best.
Raynal and possibly Ruiz need to be given more chances

I think you are being a tad unfair RCG. I like Poite’s relaxed, rather liaissez-faire approach, possibly as you say not quite text book stuff but he tries to let the game flow and I enjoyed it. He generally seems to have a good rapport with the players whenever I have seen him. Much prefer him to Gauzere
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #31 on: Sun 14 Mar 2021 22:04 »
As a neutral it certainly added to the occassion. Had I been a fan or certainly coach I am not quite so sure.

One thing I forgot to mention, in a week of suspensions for refs and queries over what players said, both Hogg and Russell had very pleasant, respectful chats with Poite, picked up on the mic and commented on. Hogg suggesting that an error had been made without ever swearing, ranting, raising his voice and left with a "thank you very much sir"" - heart warming
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #32 on: Mon 15 Mar 2021 22:09 »
Romain was at his inconsistent/eclectic best today, not sure anyone knew who would get penalised at breakdown. Some patches of "hair scare" rugby, ended up with Ireland playing the edges that little bit better.
He is an institution but I feel he is passed his best.
Raynal and possibly Ruiz need to be given more chances



Roman Poite is a bit of a 'left field', slightly alternative referee. Perhaps because I had that reputation myself when I was refereeing I have to admit that I do like his style very much indeed. I simply don't know enough about the technical side of refereeing to make any proper comment about the relative accuracy of Rugby referees' decisions but I do observe their demeanour and how the players react to them. Outstanding for me, this 6 Nations have been Pearce, Brace and Barnes and with a very creditable mention going to Adamson. But Poite is still a great favourite of mine and I always enjoy watching him officiate.
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #33 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 21:36 »
So far, 65 mins in, world class from the English team. Easily performance of the championship.

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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #34 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 21:44 »
Agree they were generally very good, although I think France can feel hard done by on the Adams try - I think it was definitely held up and don't understand why Barnes changed his mind

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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #35 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 22:06 »
I think Pearce was saved a bit by the France try at the end there. Think Adams try was held up, and Wales lucky to avoid a third yellow card for successive infringements.

Pearce is clearly a technically excellent referee though, and a brilliant communicator - no doubt he'll be England's number 1 after Barnes. It was also a very difficult match with several big decisions - not sure he'll have one like that for a while!

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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #36 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 22:08 »
Something about Wales in France, late finishes, drama
Thought he kept cool head throughout, always good to have 3 trusted mates around you.

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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #37 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 22:57 »
France v Wales was one of the most pulsating and exciting sporting encounters I have seen in a long time. The match brilliantly refereed by the outstanding Luke Pearce. The man is a natural. He gave an object lesson in how a referee should interact with players. Excellent team work with his colleagues. I'm sure it must have given him a great deal of confidence having someone of Wayne Barnes' experience and stature as TMO though Pearce was his own man and not beholden to his more senior colleague.

Surely Pearce will become England's leading referee when Barnes retires. I would say he is in a different class to Carley

I have always enjoyed international rugby but it is now rivalling football for my primary affection. There is more of an honesty to it. Simulation and over-inflated egos are making football less and less attractive.  I saw all three rugby internationals today and each was enjoyable in different ways. Now I really do need to get a firm understanding of the laws of rugby and their interpretation to appreciate and enjoy the games even more.
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #38 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 23:06 »
If you have a chance to watch BTs coverage of Prem you can often pick up a lot from there. Commentators and most pundits have a very good grasp of law, especially the excellent Ben Kay and Ugo Monye.
Listening to the refs ongoing in each game really enhances the viewing experience.

Luke indeed showed he was his own man, his interactions with the whole team were magnificent. Thats how to manage big games.

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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #39 on: Sat 20 Mar 2021 23:11 »
Agree with everything said, Pearce was outstanding. His technical ability, communication with colleagues and clear explanation of decisions is exemplary. It is clear that he has immense respect from the players and refs as if he is enjoying himself which is good to see.
It’s a pity in some ways that he had to resort to so many cards in the final quarter but his decisions were spot on.
My only disappointment is a tweet on the BBC site from Nigel Owens saying the gouging was obvious and an instant decision should have been made and that there was an unnecessary delay. Found that a bit disrespectful from someone who I admire greatly as the gouging wasn’t clear at first and Pearce/Barnes wanted to be sure of the sanction. Please Nigel, don’t become a sad has-been critic like Hackett and Winter, you are much better than that.
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #40 on: Sun 21 Mar 2021 08:10 »
Agree with everything said, Pearce was outstanding. His technical ability, communication with colleagues and clear explanation of decisions is exemplary. It is clear that he has immense respect from the players and refs as if he is enjoying himself which is good to see.
It’s a pity in some ways that he had to resort to so many cards in the final quarter but his decisions were spot on.
My only disappointment is a tweet on the BBC site from Nigel Owens saying the gouging was obvious and an instant decision should have been made and that there was an unnecessary delay. Found that a bit disrespectful from someone who I admire greatly as the gouging wasn’t clear at first and Pearce/Barnes wanted to be sure of the sanction. Please Nigel, don’t become a sad has-been critic like Hackett and Winter, you are much better than that.



I completely agree with your point about Owens Hendo. When you have had a stellar career, there is a tendency in some to then set themselves up as a fount of knowledge and to start commenting on one's successors. It shows far more class just to keep publicly silent for a while and offer private support and advice. I didn't spot the gouging first time, nor I think did TMO Barnes. I suspect Owens' comment was probably more directed at Barnes than Pearce. Some lingering rivalry perhaps ?

A small point of interest. I noticed that Pearce was wearing an un-taped wedding ring. I think I'm right in saying that in football, match officials have to remove rings or if they can't be removed tape them. I would have thought there is far more chance of a rugby referee making physical contact with players than in football so I wonder why that protocol isn't observed. Anyone know?

The main point to re-iterate though is that Pearce gave a masterclass in how referees should conduct themselves on the pitch thus earning the respect of the players. Perhaps a tutorial could be arranged for Pearce to teach these skills to some of our senior football referees; though I think such ability is probably innate and not easily learned.
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #41 on: Sun 21 Mar 2021 10:28 »
Some excellent points which serve to reinforce the fact we knew how good he was and the positive affect he was having as we could hear him. Maybe, just maybe, football should follow. (One bit of bad language apologised for, otherwise, yet again, it shows how international sports people can maintain dignity and respect, in the hottest of battles)
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #42 on: Sun 21 Mar 2021 10:30 »
so barnes finishes off the tournament with the decider on Friday with Carley piardi and foley as t.m.o

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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #43 on: Sun 21 Mar 2021 10:30 »
shame Dickson couldn't have a game
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Re: Six Nations 2021
« Reply #44 on: Sun 21 Mar 2021 10:41 »
It was an example that - in the heat of a seriously important, passionate, testosterone filled match:

~ The referee can remain calm, and in total control of proceedings;
~ The communication between referee, assistant referees and television match official can be controlled, logical and clear (and shared with the watching spectators);
~ Big, game changing decisions can be made, explained to the team captains and respected;
~ Players can give their all without to seek victory without resorting to diving, feigning serious injury, cheating and then harassing the referee when he does not agree to the unreasonable demands;
~ Players can look to their own shortcomings (which are within their control) when questioned in a post match interview - rather than taking the option of blaming the match officials.

Association Football please take note.

One other thought ...... World rugby is determined to make the game safer and the sanction for contact to the head (without mitigation) is a red card.  During this six-nations there have been a lot more red cards than has previously been the case.  Had this been football, there would have been siren calls for "common sense" to prevail and the clampdown would have petered out (as many have done over the years).  World Rugby is not so craven, or beholden to its vested interests and the game will be safer as a result.  It also has back-bone.
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