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Hendo

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Six Nations 2019
« on: Fri 07 Dec 2018 20:57 »

https://rugbyreferee.net/2018/12/07/six-nations-2019-match-officials-announced/

With the build up to the World Cup, keen interest being taken in who is getting these games. I gather that a panel of 12 referees only will control the matches at the W C, so some are going to be disappointed.
Interesting to see only 1 ref get 2 matches, the relatively inexperience Nic Berry of Australia who I think is a decent ref and has a promising future. Wayne Barnes game will be his swansong from the Six Nations in view of his imminent retirement. Sad to see no middle for Andrew Brace who I think will be the natural successor to John Lacey. And no involvement at all for J P Doyle or George Clancy.

Things could change in the next months with the Rugby Championship and a whole host of friendlies to come but I think World Rugby will have a pretty good idea already who will be off to Japan. Can I stick my neck out and suggest Barnes, Owens, Garces, Poite, Gardner, Jackson and (sadly) Peyper are almost certainties; I also think Gauzere and Raynal will make it and Berry and O'keefe which leaves one of Williams, Pearce, Carley, Brace and other hopefuls
Any thoughts anyone?

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #1 on: Fri 07 Dec 2018 22:12 »
Quite a lot of new faces in there, A couple of young English refs getting maiden six nations games, Clear successors for JP doyle and Wayne Barnes I think. Also new faces from across the world such as nic berry getting two games I think is interesting, , also interesting to see Paul Williams first six nations middle (I believe correct me if wrong) is England V Scotland, He is obviously quite highly rated by the hierarchy to get such a big game, on his six nations debut. Not to pleased With Peyper on Wales V England.

I think the next generation is starting to be pushed through now going by these appointments and the appointments in the autumn. Could be an interesting Six Nations for refereeing.

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #2 on: Sat 08 Dec 2018 07:51 »
Disappointed that they will only take 12 as referees as I thought it would be a great opportunity to blood some new refs, knowing at least 2 of your top refs are retiring shortly after.
Owens, Barnes, Poite, Garces, Gardner, Jackson, Peyper and I think O'Keefe are shoe ins based on experience and appointments. I would like to see Brace there so not the greatest time not to get a middle
One of Raynal/Gauzerre, one of Pearce/Carley, maybe both of Williams and Berry
Good to see Anselmi and Kubo used as assistants, they will definitely go to World Cup. TMO list will be interesting. I think Rowan Kitt is no1, McDowell (who I am not convinced with gets good appointmemts), likewise with Skeen
Overall pleased with 6N games. Lets hope Owens oversees another try fest at Twickenham

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #3 on: Sat 08 Dec 2018 15:34 »
Looking back at the 12 referees from 2015, 7 are still active and one would assume that they will go again - Owens, Barnes, Garces, Poite, Gauzere, Jackson and Peyper. Of the other 5 from 2015, 3 have retired - Joubert, Pollock and Lacey - and 2 are out of favour, namely Doyle and Clancy

Gardner and Raynal were among the assistants in 2015

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #4 on: Wed 13 Feb 2019 18:20 »
2 weekends done and dusted, some good performances, some a little indifferent.
Barnes kicked it off well, thought Pearce did himself no harm at all and Garces was better than he has been (different views on the breakdown though)
Poite was inconsistent but surprised at Laidlow's comments. Raynal did fine, despite the lack of communication with TMO. Owens was v good, although I am not convinced it was a penalty try.
A few of the SH refs join in during round 3, including Jaco in Cardiff (I shall watch from behind the sofa)

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #5 on: Wed 13 Feb 2019 22:51 »
Owens did well certainly though the award of a penalty try was exceedingly generous to the attacker.

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #6 on: Fri 15 Feb 2019 10:56 »
My best And Worst So Far. Poite For Me Has Been the Worst, Very Inconsistent Refereeing. My Best Would Have To Be Nigel Owens, Refereed With Common Sense And Showed Great Understanding Of The Game. Game Management was excellent as well.

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #7 on: Tue 12 Mar 2019 16:56 »
So the conclusion of the Six Nations beckons. Have to say that overall the refereeing has been good with the odd blip or two.
Gauzere seemed to come in for some criticism for his failure to award a yellow card for persistent Welsh infringements in the 22; Nic Berry has another solid if undemanding game which I think should see him chosen as one of the 12 for Japan; and I was very impressed with Ben O’Keefe whose man management, clear explanations, use of TMO and defusing of the occasional handbags was of the highest order IMHO.
So it’s Angus Gardener ( who I like) at Cardiff Arms, Matt Carley, with a chance to further establish himself, in Italy and Paul Williams, who I know little about, for the Calcutta Cup.

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #8 on: Tue 12 Mar 2019 19:18 »
I think O'Keefe is a great ref but he too should have gone to his pocket sooner.
Looking forward to seeing Angus Gardner and Matt Carley. Paul Williams is decent, Cardiff's result will have a huge impact on how tough the Calcutta Cup becomes

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #9 on: Sat 16 Mar 2019 21:58 »
Thought Paul Williams was excellent today and contributed to a great game - was less impressed with Angus Gardner, thought a few of his calls were a bit harsh on Ireland.

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #10 on: Sat 16 Mar 2019 22:36 »
I am not sure Williams will get an easier 6N game but he certainly played his part. No obvious errors and good use of TMO
Not sure I have fully recovered from watching the game 😎
Will catch up with the other 2 games tomorrow

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #11 on: Sun 17 Mar 2019 00:28 »
I think Ireland were very harshly treated today almost all the big decisions went in favor of Wales but no denying that Wales were awesome today and thoroughly deserved their win and the grand slam

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #12 on: Sun 17 Mar 2019 08:08 »
I agree that Williams had a good game. Never saw the other 2 matches so can’t comment.
And so with the Six Nations now over and with only a plethora of friendlies in the main to come between now and the World Cup, the organising committee will need to be announcing soon the 12 on fiield refs for the competition, presumably from the 14 who have just been at the Six Nations.
So who goes and who will be disappointed?
In my original post starting this thread and in subsequent threads from others we have all thrown a few names into the hat. How much store will be put on recent performances and how much will reputation and experience count? Poite didn’t have a good match but he is normally reliable and should go but will all 4 French refs be on the plane? Do all 3 New Zealander refs make it? All 3 English refs? Can they ditch Peyper please (probably not as he is the only SA Ref sadly)?
My gut feeling is that one of the French and Carley will miss out. I hope the French Ref is Gauzere as I rate Raynal much better but that’s just my opinion.
Any thoughts anyone?

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #13 on: Sun 17 Mar 2019 09:10 »
As usual when it comes to rugby matters I agree with Hendo.
Owens, Barnes, Garces, Jackson, Gardner and (unfortunately) Peyper are the top 6 and did enough to confirm their places
O'Keefe I like and Pearce did well
Poite although poor at Murryfield will go also
Raynal definitely refereed better than Gauzerre.
I would take Berry and Williams to give a 6/6 split
Carley will join the likes of Anselmi and Brace on the assistants list

Berry and Williams will need a test so expect to see them on NZ vs SA and Aus v SA respectively in the Rugby Championship
Would like also to see Raynal and Pearce do the NZ v Aus games (might be a step too far)

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Re: Six Nations 2019
« Reply #14 on: Mon 18 Mar 2019 23:17 »
Just seen on the World Rugby site that the selection committee meets over the last weekend of March to finalise the referees, with an announcement early April.
There are 12 on field refs, 7 touch judges and 4 TMO places up for grabs.
As well as the 2 refs who miss out from the Six Nations (Carley and Gauzere?), the other 5 touch judges should surely include Andrew Brace of Ireland and Federico Anselmi of Argentina.
 So which other 3? If they are looking to make it truly international then Marius Mitrea of Italy and Kubo Of Japan should go. The final one could be a surprise - maybe Karl Dickson or Ruiz of France?