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anje-roo

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European Rugby SFs
« on: Mon 12 Apr 2021 16:07 »
2/5 - La Rochelle v Leinster
1/5 - Toulouse v Bordeaux

30/4 - Leicester v Ulster
1/5 - Bath v Montpelier

About the only prediction which can be made about officials is that Leicester v Ulster will (probably) be French.
I'd guess La Rochelle v Leinster would be English, the All-French will be Irish or English & the Bath game could be anyone's (other than English/French).
« Last Edit: Wed 14 Apr 2021 17:35 by anje-roo »

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RCG

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« Reply #1 on: Mon 12 Apr 2021 18:49 »
I would like to see Brace on the all French game, Pearce on the other one.

Poite did well in his QF as did Murphy

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« Reply #2 on: Mon 12 Apr 2021 19:42 »
I reckon that the main Final will be an all English appointment, Barnes or Pearce + Carley/Dickson.
All 4 SFs & the other Final - it should be an "open goal" for the non-represented countries' officials (Scotland, Wales & Italy) but Jutge & his colleagues will probably not gamble. For Scotland & Wales in particular, there's a dearth of proven experience at the top level.
Once again, rugby's 2 codes show football the way forward in terms of being able to hear most of the officials' conversation real-time. Doesn't necessarily mean that all rugby officiating decisions are 100% correct, but those which are obviously wrong are rarer than hens' teeth. Compare & contrast with England's Premier League & VAR week in week out.

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« Reply #3 on: Tue 13 Apr 2021 12:45 »
My predictions - ref only

La Rochelle v Leinster  Pearce
Toulouse v Bordeaux.  Brace

Leicester v Ulster.       Raynal
Bath v Montpelier       Murphy or Adamson

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« Reply #4 on: Tue 13 Apr 2021 17:59 »
Based on form and key decisions Raynal nor Adamson should be anywhere near the middle of these games.

Murphy did well and Poite was at his best (helped having Varnsey and CMK running the lines)

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« Reply #5 on: Tue 13 Apr 2021 21:52 »
The "powers that be" definitely have their favourites (which might have been partially caused by covid-related travel restrictions) & my guess is that those favourites' positions are reinforced by captains' and coaches' feedback post-match. That feedback might not necessarily be in line with the input on websites such as this! It's certainly interesting to compare & contrast the styles of Barnes/Pearce/Carley & Poite/Gauzere/Raynal - probably the most important thing being, despite their obvious differences, each is very consistent. Similarly Brace/Murphy. I do sometimes strain to hear the officials' conversations over the commentators, hopefully the latter will remain silent when there are conversations during breaks in play involving the TMO and the on-field officials. As is usually the case when the BBC broadcast rugby league.
Whoever's appointed to whichever SF, fingers crossed that the SFs will see many more tries than the 2 all-French QFs! A PK fest will be a turn-off.

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« Reply #6 on: Tue 20 Apr 2021 16:40 »

HEINEKEN CHAMPIONS CUP SEMI-FINALS
(Kick-offs local time)

Toulouse v Bordeaux-Bègles
Saturday 1 May – Stade Ernest Wallon (16.00)
Referee: Wayne Barnes (Eng); Assistant referees: Christophe Ridley (Eng), Adam Leal (Eng); TMO: Tom Foley (Eng); Citing Commissioner: Ed Kenny (Ire)

La Rochelle v Leinster Rugby
Sunday 2 May – Stade Marcel Deflandre (16.00)
Referee: Matthew Carley (Eng); Assistant referees: Karl Dickson (Eng), Jack Makepeace (Eng); TMO: Ian Tempest (Eng); Citing Commissioner: Dave Guyan (Eng)

CHALLENGE CUP SEMI-FINALS
(Kick-offs local time)

Leicester Tigers v Ulster Rugby
Friday 30 April – Mattioli Woods Welford Road (20.00)
Referee: Pascal Gauzère (Fra); Assistant referees: Mathieu Raynal (Fra), Alex Ruiz (Fra); TMO: Eric Gauzins (Fra); Citing Commissioner: Jeff Mark (Wal)

Bath Rugby v Montpellier
Saturday 1 May – Recreation Ground (20.00)
Referee: Andrew Brace (Ire); Assistant referees: Frank Murphy (Ire), Chris Busby (Ire); TMO: Brian MacNeice (Ire);

Luke Pearce not involved at all (I hope that its keep him for the final)
2 strong English quartets
All the big French names bar Poite on the Challenge Cup Semi
Expected appointment for Brace

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« Reply #7 on: Wed 21 Apr 2021 09:30 »
Well I didn't do very well lol!!

But agree, it seems like Pearce and Poite are being saved for the finals!


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« Reply #8 on: Wed 28 Apr 2021 19:48 »
Pearce-champions cup final


poite -challenge cup final

or poss Dickson

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« Reply #9 on: Fri 30 Apr 2021 23:08 »
Romain replaced Raynal as AR1 on the Leicester vs Ulster game

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« Reply #10 on: Sun 02 May 2021 15:45 »
Both assistants changed in La Rochelle - Andrew Jackson and Wayne Falla replace Dickson and Makepeace (or is that Dempsey and Makepeace 😉)
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« Reply #11 on: Sun 02 May 2021 19:40 »
So it’s La Rochelle v Toulouse and Montpellier v Leicester.

What price Pearce and Brace?

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« Reply #12 on: Mon 03 May 2021 08:10 »
All England team for the all French final. 4 out of Barnes/Pearce/Carley/Dickson/Ridley/Foley as referee, 2 ARs & TMO - probably Pearce ahead of Barnes. Tough call for Jutge & his colleagues.
Leicester v Montpelier could be all Irish or all Scottish or all Welsh. Another tough call - if Brace is selected then that implies not enough confidence in the likes of Murphy, Adamson & Whitehouse. Unlikely to be any other nationality which is tough on the likes of Italy and Georgia.

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« Reply #13 on: Mon 03 May 2021 10:24 »
Pearce and brace for euro finals then

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« Reply #14 on: Mon 03 May 2021 13:21 »
I would like to see Pearce but suspect Barnes. Brace for Challenge cup, would like to see Adamson forgiven and used in someway, 1 poor 20 mins doesnt make him a bad referee