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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #165 on: Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:05 »
A considerable number of VAR interventions last night if the BT highlights are anything to go by, and a number of overturned decisions including Makkelie at Athletico Madrid. I wonder what Mr Riley made of that one. Most interventions seemed justified although, once more, we had a 'Euro penalty award' for hands which was outrageous - ball hammered from no great distance towards the defender who was turning his back and had his hands by his side.     
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #166 on: Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:56 »
Quote from: Acme Thunderer on Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:05
A considerable number of VAR interventions last night if the BT highlights are anything to go by, and a number of overturned decisions including Makkelie at Athletico Madrid. I wonder what Mr Riley made of that one. Most interventions seemed justified although, once more, we had a 'Euro penalty award' for hands which was outrageous - ball hammered from no great distance towards the defender who was turning his back and had his hands by his side.     

The one in Danny's game was a great intervention. No way he could have seen the attacker initiated the contact in real time, it was on his blindside. That was a perfect example of how VAR should work. One in István's game as well, he'd booked an attacked for a dive but after VAR intervention and an OFR he rescinded the yellow & gave the penalty.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #167 on: Thu 13 Oct 2022 12:43 »
Quote from: bmb on Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:56
Quote from: Acme Thunderer on Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:05
A considerable number of VAR interventions last night if the BT highlights are anything to go by, and a number of overturned decisions including Makkelie at Athletico Madrid. I wonder what Mr Riley made of that one. Most interventions seemed justified although, once more, we had a 'Euro penalty award' for hands which was outrageous - ball hammered from no great distance towards the defender who was turning his back and had his hands by his side.     

The one in Danny's game was a great intervention. No way he could have seen the attacker initiated the contact in real time, it was on his blindside. That was a perfect example of how VAR should work. One in István's game as well, he'd booked an attacked for a dive but after VAR intervention and an OFR he rescinded the yellow & gave the penalty.

Oh yes.

I’m sooo glad that VAR Dennis Higler invited Danny Makkelie to re-view the incident. Just imagine, in case VAR supported the on-field decision, I’m pretty sure there would be a “step-on-achilles” image on the front page of the Spanish newspapers. That would create some damage for Makkelie, who (I agree with bmb) in full speed couldn’t assess this properly. Now, they punished the ”first” and “most severe” foul. Expected decision. 1000% agree.

Imo a great advertisement for the existence of VAR (!) and great teamwork. UEFA should be happy.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #168 on: Sun 23 Oct 2022 09:57 »
25 October 2022

18:45 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - Chelsea (ENG)  | Group E
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane de Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alessandro Dudic (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucilio Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Björn Fecker (GER)

18:45 CET - Seville (Estadio Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán)
Sevilla (ESP) - FC Copenhagen (DEN) | Group G
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Berthomieu (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Lamprini Dimitrou (GRE) 

21:00  CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - AC Milan (ITA) | Group E
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Lyon (GIB)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Celtic Park)
Celtic (SCO) - Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) | Group F
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA)

21:00 CET - Leipzig (RB Arena)
Leipzig (GER) - Real Madrid (ESP) | Group F
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Antonov (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Rotem Kamer (ISR)

21:00 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Manchester City (ENG) | Group G
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Rosario Abisso (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Bakar Jordania (GEO)

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint Germain (FRA) - Maccabi Haifa (ISR) | Group H
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vitor Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Loukas Siotropos (GRE)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
Benfica (POR) - Juventus (ITA) | Group H
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Momčilo Marković (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Petr Fousek (CZE)
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #169 on: Sun 23 Oct 2022 11:40 »
Mostly normal appointments.

Orsato and Massa with big matches. Gozubuyuk is back on CL after a long time. Zwayer for PSG at home and Jovanovic on the other match of the Group.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #170 on: Sun 23 Oct 2022 11:51 »
Are we expecting some English involvement this week with both Atwell and Kavanagh on AVAR duty
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #171 on: Sun 23 Oct 2022 12:55 »
Quote from: GingerReferee on Sun 23 Oct 2022 11:51
Are we expecting some English involvement this week with both Atwell and Kavanagh on AVAR duty

Yes
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #172 on: Mon 24 Oct 2022 10:27 »
26 October 2022

18:45 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - Porto (POR)  | Group B
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Pierre Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Kremer (LUX)

18:45 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)  | Group C
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Niklas Nyberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Tompkins (ENG)

21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio Diego Armando Maradona)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - Rangers (SCO)  | Group A
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eysoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Repka (CZE)

21:00 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Ajax (NED) - Liverpool (ENG)  | Group A
Referee: Jose Maria Sanchez Martinez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabańero (ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Ińigo Prieto (ESP)
Fourth Official:  César Soto Grado (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee:  Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen (NOR)

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Metropolitano)
Atlético Madrid (ESP) - Bayer Leverkusen (GER)  | Group B
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Iain Blair (SCO)

21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
Barcelona (ESP) - Bayern München (GER)  | Group C
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Robert Jones (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: David Coote (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks (LVA)


21:00 CET - London (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium)
Tottenham (ENG) -  Sporting CP (POR)  | Group D
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol vanBoekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Itchko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell (SVN)

21:00 CET - Frankfurt Am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) - Olympique de Marseille (FRA)  | Group D
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mike Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Artur Azaryan (ARM)
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #173 on: Mon 24 Oct 2022 11:40 »
Unexpected and big appointment for Sanchez Martinez. The Spanish is far from convincing and this match could be a hot one.

Not so big match for Makkelie. Taylor with Barcelona's last chance. Oliver and Turpin for Group B. Atletico does create some trouble to the committee.

Low kew match for Meier. This match should go to a 1st Group referee.
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« Reply #174 on: Mon 24 Oct 2022 11:43 »
Another trip to London for Missy bmb then!
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #175 on: Mon 24 Oct 2022 12:11 »
That’s a big fourth official appointment for Jones too.

Meier with an important observer, but as stated, a 1st group official would have been appropriate. 
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« Reply #176 on: Mon 24 Oct 2022 12:23 »
Great game for Taylor, especially as it's a must win game for Barcelona, and a pretty big game for Oliver too.  Looking at the table in group D, although not as high profile as Taylor's game, that's still an important game for Makkelie.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #177 on: Mon 24 Oct 2022 23:48 »
Oliver in Belgium will be fine for him. It’s not that big of a game at all.

Wondering how he will travel to Belgium. From experience of travelling to Bruges. It isn’t well connected by plane. Nearest airport with flight to UK is Brussels. That’s an hour away. Long travel times for Oliver. Perhaps a private plane to a closer airport?
 
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« Reply #178 on: Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:41 »
Oliver's been fine - quite a niggly game where it's difficult to shine, but can't thing of anything he got wrong.  Two minor things - he did blow too early for a foul in the first half with a Bruges player through on goal, and a questionable lack of injury time in the second half (not that it mattered) despite a number of VAR checks.  He was ably assisted by Kavanagh, who had a busy time of it at the start of the second half - with recommending a review for Michael for a penalty which ended up being awarded (Michael had his back turned when it happened), and then he spotted encroachment at the penalty leading to a retake.   Good night all round for the English team.

Looking forward to seeing the other team in action shortly, in a game which now has little riding on it thanks to Inter's result.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #179 on: Wed 26 Oct 2022 22:20 »
Taylor was OK, a couple of missed decisions on corners, Beswick had a non-offside decision overturned, and Anthony had a penalty overturned.  Not horrendous decisions originally, but correctly overturned.  Adam Nunn made some excellent tight calls on offsides (or not offside in some cases).

Big controversy is at Tottenham, where there is a lot of debate over whether VAR should have ruled out Kane's goal.  I'd need another look at it to decide but it looked very tight.  Conte rightly sent off for his OTT reaction.
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