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Quote from: rustyref on Thu 29 Oct 2020 21:26

Certainly in England I think the government are desperate not to prevent organised sports from carrying on, after all football is still fine even in cities and areas in tier 3.  Problematic yes for leagues that span tier 3 and tier 1/2 areas as clubs from the former can't travel to the latter (but match officials can), but football is still being played.  Of course a full lockdown is going to wipe out non-professional sport, but I think they would allow everything above National League to carry on unlike the last lock down.

Where I am a little baffled is how countries are saying they are doing a two to four week lock down to get control back, as after two to four weeks following the March full lockdown it took the best part of four months to lift those restrictions and I can't see why it would be any different now.  I fear that if a full lock down is implemented that will be in place until at least March, they will just keep extending at the end of every period.

Very insightful post and I think that we are all baffled as to how they are going to resolve things.
I honestly don't think that any government in any country has the answer and they will just keep bumbling along until what? Strange times for us all.

New Zealand?

New Zealand smashed Covid as did Taiwan.
Here in Australia our state governments went hard early on it. Borders were closed unless essential.
Victoria has just come out of their hard lockdown that went for over 100 says. But here is the evidence
On July 30, England had 600 or so cases and Victoria had 700. The Victorian Premier went to hard lockdowns and the whole state almost stopped. He rode the negative media especial from Murdoch media.
Today Victoria are now 4 days in a row with 0 community transition.
New South Wales is down to under 4 community transition a day and our contact tracing is amazing!!!

How to beat Covid look to these 3 countries; NZ Aus and Taiwan.

3 November 2020

18:55 CET - Moscow (Stadion Lokomotiv)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) - Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)  | Group A
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Karim Abed (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Kuanysh Kanapyanov (KAZ)

18:55 CET - Kyiv (NSK Olimpiyskiy)
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) - VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) | Group B
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Łukasz Wachowski (POL)

21:00 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - FC Bayern München (GER)  | Group A
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Vitali Meshkov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ichko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (FRA)

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Alfredo Di Stéfano)
Real Madrid CF (ESP) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)  | Group B
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Frank Schneider (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Medved (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - Olympiacos FC (GRE)  | Group C
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1:Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi (SMR)
UEFA Delegate: Boris Stankov (BUL)

21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
FC Porto (POR) - Olympique de Marseille (FRA)  | Group C
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez Del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Javier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nikolai Ivanov (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: Scilla Gennaro (ITA)

21:00 CET - Herning (Arena Herning)
FC Midtjylland (DEN) - AFC Ajax (NED)  | Group D
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David Roome (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)

21:00 CET - Bergamo (Stadio di Bergamo)
Atalanta BC (ITA) - Liverpool FC (ENG)  | Group D
Referee: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sebastian Colţescu (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)

The biggie of the day goes deservedly to Turpin.

Bastien again in Russia. Expected Spanish appointments in group C.

Gozubuyuk with another CL appointment. UEFA wants to promote him after Kuipers retires. But, in my book, he is not Elite material.

Finally, it seems that UEFA continues the same policy regarding appointments like last year. MD 1-2, 3-4 and 5-6 are appointed together.

Danny Makkelie (NED) replaces Aliaksei Kulbakou (BLR) on the Salzburg - Bayern match. Doveri (ITA) is now FO.

A big game for Marciniak this time.

And yet another trip for Michael Oliver.  Not sure if it signifies he's looked on more favourably now by Rosetti and Co, or that he's still under the microscope, or there's no real significance to read into it. 

I sometimes think we do over read and over think appointments. At this stage its about getting games, impressing where you can and avoiding the errors.
With 4 English teams qualified, 4 groups are off limits currently so this narrows the available games. Add to this we have 2 Elite refs plus Pawson and Kavanagh who could get games and the number of possibilities drops again.
I think the only time really to assess progress/position is the KO games

Riley assessing Brych..... no I won't say it