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jacksamuel21

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #300 on: Mon 22 May 2023 13:42 »
Turns out we where all wrong and shows the lack of the available options.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #301 on: Mon 22 May 2023 14:38 »
I wonder if István Kovács will be considered at some point?

Not this season, I don't think. Still hoping for UEL for him as it's in Budapest. He can have the UCL next year in London then!

I want Istvan as 4th official to Danny when he (finally) has his deserved UCL final. 😏

Hmm not gonna happen :/

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #302 on: Mon 22 May 2023 18:58 »
2022 UEFA Champions League Final refereeing team

Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)

Assistants: Paweł Sokolnicki and Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)

4th Official: Istvan Kovacs (ROM)

Reserve AR: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROM)


VAR: Tomasz Kwiatowski (POL)

Assistant VAR: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)

VAR Support: Marco Fritz (GER)

Same reffing team two games in a row for Man City? Has Jon Moss taken over the CL appointments?

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #303 on: Mon 22 May 2023 20:11 »
Is this unprecedented to have the same ref for a semi and a final? Surprised to see Makkelie missing from the latter stages.
But what a last few months for Marciniak and thoroughly deserved too

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #304 on: Mon 22 May 2023 20:19 »
Is this unprecedented to have the same ref for a semi and a final? Surprised to see Makkelie missing from the latter stages.
But what a last few months for Marciniak and thoroughly deserved too

Last one I can think of was clatts 2016, But that was in the collina era, under rosetti I think its unprecedented.

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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #305 on: Mon 22 May 2023 20:25 »
Is this unprecedented to have the same ref for a semi and a final? Surprised to see Makkelie missing from the latter stages.
But what a last few months for Marciniak and thoroughly deserved too


The old rules about not getting a Semi followed by the Final are out of the window. I wonder if Man City were consulted ? I think Makkelie can consider himself unfortunate but if your face doesn't fit then you won't get the top appointments. It was ever thus.
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #306 on: Tue 23 May 2023 12:57 »
Congratulations to all the final officials.

I like it a lot that the ‘performance principle’ prevailed. Having said that, meritocracy must always prevail, to prevent that certain referees are being unmotivated and don't believe in their fair chances. In the 2021/2022 season, Danny Makkelie was the best referee and we all know how the story ended.
 
There are some urgent choices to be made within the Dutch team:
 
- VAR: Should they keep backing Pol van Boekel? Of course, he is a bestie of Björn Kuipers, the committee member. However, they have to be neutral, make sensible choices and admit that it was for a big part on VAN BOEKEL’s poor performances that Makkelie’s team missed out on a final this year. And besides, Pol van Boekel’s name triggers already a lot of controversy before a kick-off. You can't say that about a Brisard or Kwiatkowski. When do they wake up in the Netherlands? This is TOP SPORT and sometimes hard choices have to be made.
 
- MOTIVATION; Is Makkelie unmotivated? And if so, what's the role of UEFA/Rosetti? Can they do something about this, motivate him and let him believe in a fair 2023/2024 chance? Otherwise they will lose a very reliable pair of hands for the hottest matches. Is Makkelie surrounded by coaches that make him perform better? Some important stuff to think about.
 
- Fitness; he has to be top fit again to make a good chance.
 
For next season there are just 3 "logical" candidates for the UCL final if an English team is in the final: Makkelie, Vincic and Kovacs. If Makkelie manages to find his 2020-2022 top form again, he should be the #1 candidate, head and shoulders above the rest. I just hope he will realise that, is resilient and still hungry to fight for it, after two dissapointing seasons and a bad treatment by UEFA. And maybe, UEFA has to keep him away from the most risky games, instead of sacrificing him.
 
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Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
« Reply #307 on: Sun 11 Jun 2023 03:08 »
This thread has been unpinned and the 2023/2024 thread pinned.
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