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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #1 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:18 »
Must say that feels like the weakest set of European officials I can remember for a major tournament - feeling the loss of big hitters like Kuipers and Brych. Also disgraceful that Cakir hasn't been selected and that Seibert has.

Very pleased to see Michael Oliver getting the nod though - I was worried that he might miss out.

Also noticeable that there are three female referees and a number of female ARs.
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« Reply #2 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:30 »
I don't care about the rest of the names on the list, the one name I wanted to see there is there, so I am a very happy and proud bmb right now.  Congratulations István.
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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #3 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:39 »
Pleased to see both English refs involved.

I guess some refs/ARs with do VAR/AVAR too?

Those who know the pairings better, which refs have no ARs or 1 AR? As 36 x 2 would be 72 not 69

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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #4 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:49 »
Pleased both Taylor and Oliver are going. I thought it may be a close call with Oliver but his recent UEFA appointments have indicated he's in favour.

Interestingly no English VARs (Attwell or Kavanagh), but perhaps not a complete surprise due to a few high profile blunders over this European season and the generally questionable use of VAR in this country to date..


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« Reply #5 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:52 »
Interestingly no English VARs (Attwell or Kavanagh), but perhaps not a complete surprise due to a few high profile blunders over this European season and the generally questionable use of VAR in this country to date..

Attwell was the only one on the pre-selection list so Kavanagh would not have gone anyway
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« Reply #6 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:53 »
Pleased both Taylor and Oliver are going. I thought it may be a close call with Oliver but his recent UEFA appointments have indicated he's in favour.

Interestingly no English VARs (Attwell or Kavanagh), but perhaps not a complete surprise due to a few high profile blunders over this European season and the generally questionable use of VAR in this country to date..

Kavanagh wasn’t on the training for the World Cup for VAR and Attwell has had a number of questionable performances in UEFA competitions. Kavanagh hasn’t had the best season performance wise on VAR in the premier league either.
Pleased to see both English refs involved.

I guess some refs/ARs with do VAR/AVAR too?

Those who know the pairings better, which refs have no ARs or 1 AR? As 36 x 2 would be 72 not 69

 I doubt referees would do VAR as well, Danny Makkelie might as he does have previous experience having done it in 2018

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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #7 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:55 »
A few surprises there as far as UEFA is concerned.  I wasn't expecting both Taylor and Oliver to go but delighted they are both there.
France also has 2 referees - Turpin and Frappart, but Spain only Lahoz. No Dias from Portugal?

No English VAR as already mentioned
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« Reply #8 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:57 »
Glad to see Istan Kovacs and the female officials there as well. Counting frappart I make that 11 referees from Europe? I thought it was 10 they got
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« Reply #9 on: Thu 19 May 2022 13:58 »
Don’t know anything about the plan from Africa or Japan other than they have only recently done an Africa nations game and a AFC champions league game. Frappart has no CL KO experience. So again I feel this is a case of putting in female referees because they are female rather than because they are excellent qualified referees.

Agree re the uefa list. Not surprised Siebert has been chosen as he went to euros even though I think there are better options. Hopefully a non European ref for the final
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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #10 on: Thu 19 May 2022 14:15 »
I won't comment on the other confederations but at least this time meritocracy exists on the UEFA selection.

Both Taylor and Oliver deserved the call based on their performances the last 18 months. And I am pleased to see that 2 English referees are possible on a WC.

Makkelie, Orsato, Turpin and Vincic were totally expected. Marciniak lost Euro due to health issues but he has made quite a comeback. So his selection is justified.

Well Frappart being there is not a surprise. Both Ceferin and Rosetti have a special interest in her. Perhaps she is there as reserve?

Kovacs is present for 2 reasons: A reward for his performances but also due to Hategan's health issues.

Lahoz is not a surprise. A referee with CL final, previous Euro, WC should be there. Meritocracy wins.

Finally Siebert. He wouldn't have been my choice. But he comes from Germany so he must be there. Zwayer/Aytekin were simply not good enough for Qatar.
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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #11 on: Thu 19 May 2022 14:23 »
Kavanagh hasn’t had the best season performance wise on VAR in the premier league either.

He has been excellent in Europe as VAR. No controversies at all.
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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #12 on: Thu 19 May 2022 14:39 »

Kovacs is present for 2 reasons: A reward for his performances but also due to Hategan's health issues.


I disagree - he is there for one reason and one reason only - his performances. He was already ahead of Ovi with the likes of Roberto Rossetti, Alex Deaconu and Kyros Vassaras prior to Ovi's heart attack. Compare their performances this season - Ovi has been a steady referee, reliable, a safe pair of hands and performed at expected level but nothing exceptional, István on the other hand has, in all bar one game, which was a poor showing, been consistently above expected level - masterclass. It's quite similar to the Atkinson v Clattenburg debates of old, Atkinson was the steady reliable safe pair of hands & Clatts the one who put in exceptional performances. Both excellent referees for different reasons, it's the same with Ovi & István. Rossetti backs István in the same way Collina backed Clatts.
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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Officials Confirmed
« Reply #13 on: Thu 19 May 2022 14:56 »
Regarding my point about the UEFA selection being weaker in 2022 than recent years - compare it to the European roster in 2014:

Felix Byrch, Cuneyt Cakir, Jonas Eriksson, Bjorn Kuipers, Milorad Mazic, Pedro Proenca, Nicola Rizzoli, Carlos Velascalo Carballo, Howard Webb

I feel like you could feel confident putting any one of those on a big game as a safe pair of hands (although I never really rated Mazic) - I don't see the same strength and depth this time around, although admittedly we now have VAR to correct any howlers.
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« Reply #14 on: Thu 19 May 2022 15:29 »
So good to have 2 english referees after having none at the last world cup.
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