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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #120 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 10:04 »
When PLC was in charge of UEFA, Oliver was his favorite referee. He did a CL R16 shortly after his promotion to the Elite Group. Now PLC has moved to FIFA.

With Rosetti in charge of UEFA, Taylor has got many significant appointments. It seems that he considers him the best English referee.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #121 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 11:51 »
Group G
27 November 2019, 18:55 CET - St. Petersburg (Gazprom Arena)
FC Zenit (RUS) - Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Damgaard (DEN)

Group H
27 November 2019, 18:55 CET - Valčncia (Mestalla, camp del Valčncia)
Valencia CF (ESP) - Chelsea FC (ENG)
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Harm Osmers (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michalis Koukoulakis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)

Group E
27 November 2019, 20:45 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Tobias Wolf (GER)

Group E
27 November 2019, 20:45 CET - Genk (Luminus Arena)
KRC Genk (BEL) - FC Red Bull Salzburg (AUT)
Referee: Mattias Gestranius (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikko Alakare (FIN)
Fourth Official: Ville Nevalainen (FIN)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bas Nijhuis (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Rainer Koch (GER)

Group F
27 November 2019, 20:45 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos /(FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Karim Abed (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Tugomir Frajman (SVN)

Group F
27 November 2019, 20:45 CET - Prague (Eden Arena)
SK Slavia Praha (CZE) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Paweł Gil (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marcin Borkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Joël Wolff (LUX)

Group G
27 November 2019, 20:45 CET - Leipzig (Red Bull Arena)
RB Leipzig (GER) - SL Benfica (POR)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Fourth Official: Xavier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Sergio Di Cesare (ITA)

Group H
27 November 2019, 20:45 CET - Villeneuve-d'Ascq (Stade Pierre Mauroy)
Lille OSC (FRA) - AFC Ajax (NED)
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Fourth Official: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: John Taylor (SCO)
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #122 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 11:52 »
Rosetti observing Turpin is interesting...perhaps he is in contention for a final this year?
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #123 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 11:58 »
Probably. When PLC's name appeared on the appointments, there was always a reason.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #124 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 13:34 »
What's happened to Cakir? He doesn't seem to have had a UEFA appointment for ages but has continued refereeing in Turkey I believe?

Regarding Taylor/Oliver, I have always tended to rate significantly higher but in fairness I think Taylor has kicked on a lot over the past season and has performed well in his UEFA appointments (as has Oliver from what I've seen.)
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #125 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 13:55 »
Is it a totty watch for bmb at Anfield?  ;D
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #126 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 14:07 »
Quote from: edy on Mon 25 Nov 2019 10:04
When PLC was in charge of UEFA, Oliver was his favorite referee. He did a CL R16 shortly after his promotion to the Elite Group. Now PLC has moved to FIFA.

With Rosetti in charge of UEFA, Taylor has got many significant appointments. It seems that he considers him the best English referee.

An interesting point edy.  Wasn't it Collina that wanted Clattenburg for the Euros in 2016, and as previously commented, the FA (Ellery?) wanted Atkinson so they both went. 

I don't whether it would be a factor, at least not yet, but Taylor is 41 and Oliver only 34, despite their both joining the SG at the same time as I recall. Was it 2010?  Would that mean Taylor has only one chance of the WC in Qatar in 2022, whereas Oliver potentially has two and possibly 3 if he were still eligible
in 2030?

Much as I would prefer both to go to the Euros next year, I'm not sure England would get 2 representatives appointed again, and the evidence does suggest it's more likely to be Taylor. 

Have to say, as Readingfan mentions, that in the European and International games I've seen over the past 12 months, both have had some good performances.  I've not read any reports either to indicate otherwise.   
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #127 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 14:23 »
Maybe Rosetti just prefers taylor's style.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #128 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 14:39 »
Roberto Rosetti comes from Turin.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #129 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 14:56 »
I think Oliver is the strong favourite for 2022 - he's done well at FIFA tournaments and attended a WC seminar earlier in the year I believe.

When I get a moment, I will start a thread about Euro 2020 referees (unless someone gets there first!) I think it's quite possible quite a few countries will have two representatives. if so, then England should have a good chance. If it was just a 'one-off exception' again you'd probably say Netherlands was more likely and Spain/Germany just as likely.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #130 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 15:03 »
Quote from: Ref Fan on Mon 25 Nov 2019 14:07
Quote from: edy on Mon 25 Nov 2019 10:04
When PLC was in charge of UEFA, Oliver was his favorite referee. He did a CL R16 shortly after his promotion to the Elite Group. Now PLC has moved to FIFA.

With Rosetti in charge of UEFA, Taylor has got many significant appointments. It seems that he considers him the best English referee.

An interesting point edy.  Wasn't it Collina that wanted Clattenburg for the Euros in 2016, and as previously commented, the FA (Ellery?) wanted Atkinson so they both went. 


Yes, that's correct. PLC wanted Clattenburg and Elleray wanted Atkinson. They both went.

But there is another factor to consider. There were 18 referees selected and not 12 as on EURO 2012. If the spots were only 12, I would bet that only Clatts would go.

This time we don't know the spots. Don't forget that 12 cities will host Euro matches. So it is possible that the entire Elite category will be chosen.
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #131 on: Mon 25 Nov 2019 16:00 »
Exactly my thinking. No point having an Elite list if its not going to be used
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #132 on: Tue 26 Nov 2019 15:34 »
It's an interesting point about the expanded format of Euro 2020 in terms of being across 12 host cities. I think that might increase the number of FOs and VARs (if VAR isn't done from one central location.)

I still think 18 referees is probably about right though - that's 2 games each in the group stage. There shouldn't be any issue with an official refereeing in Baku on the opening Saturday and Bilbao a week later for instance.

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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #133 on: Tue 26 Nov 2019 19:11 »
I would be tempted to add in the R16 games and have 22 refs do 2 games each. Then cut to 8 or 10 refs for the quarter finals onwards.
Will also be interesting to see if there is a CORE VAR team or if each referee will have his (or her) own
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Re: 2019/20 UEFA Champions League
« Reply #134 on: Wed 27 Nov 2019 08:41 »
I felt the Bulgarian Kabakov was inconsistent in last night's Tottenham game. Examples included the cautioning of Aiderweireid when the Spurs player clearly played the ball and did not touch the Olympiacos player, and a foul given against a Spurs player when the Olympiacos player clearly and deliberately backed into his opponent. I don't think Hugh Dallas would have been too impressed with this performance. One amusing aspect of the cautioning of the Spurs player came when Kabakov proceeded to write down all the details of the perceived foul in his notebook, rather than merely showing the card and noting the player's number. Very old school which was picked up by the BT commentator, but it did mean a further delay in restarting play on a night when free kicks, foam spraying and generally getting players back the required distance resulted in frequent delays in play. A good evening for Spurs and Mourinho (and a certain ball boy) but, oh my, how grateful they must have been to Meriah for kicking thin air rather than the ball in the moments before half time!     
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