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« on: Sat 23 Sep 2023 23:53 »
To be fair to Josh Smith, I can fully understand why the pen was give in real time as the defender’s arm was up.
The criticism here should solely be for the VAR as this is exactly the type of incident VAR was bought in for and should correct. It wasn’t even be a matter of opinion (where the oft used ‘justifiable’ phrase from here could be used) this should have been overturned as a fact of the laws of the game.
Please quote which exact part of the Laws of the Game you are basing this "fact" on?
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« on: Sun 17 Sep 2023 15:25 »
IMO both players are grappling with each other as the ball is in the air, then McBurnie pulls the Tottenham player to the ground, and the referee correctly gives a free kick to Tottenham. McBurnie, despite already being on a caution, decides to argue the decision, and consequently receives a second caution for dissent.
Can't say I have much sympathy for the player here!
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« on: Sun 17 Sep 2023 13:33 »
By stopping and starting and freezing he ball positions, I think we find the match ball is in the net (the roof of the net bulges) before the non-match ball is inside the field of play. So the goal should count. The second ball is therefore irrelevant. Perhaps the goalkeeper earns a yellow card for what used to be called "ungentlemanly conduct". A PC phrase (more apt in this match) is used these days.
Even if the second ball was already on the field of play, it wouldn't matter as it didn't interfere with play! In fact, even if it touched the match ball and the ball still entered the goal, a goal would still be given. Obviously had the second ball hit the match ball and stopped it from going in, then it would have been a penalty and a red for DOGSO.
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« on: Sun 17 Sep 2023 12:49 »
It's not the officials' problem that the opponents adapted to the team's tactics and forced them to adapt - it's the team's problem to solve. If a manager has never considered the possibility that their opponents would cotton on to how they are playing out from goal kicks, and therefore that they would need to work on an alternate tactic to get the ball into play without delaying the restart, then I would say that manager is either being deliberately obtuse, or is stealing a living by managing in professional football.
It feels like people nowadays believe that the Laws of the Game have to be adapted to how teams want to play, rather than teams actually having to play within the framework of the LotG.
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« on: Mon 04 Sep 2023 08:34 »
The only other brothers I can recall were David and Graham Laws but they weren't both in the Premiership.
I dislike records that run from a simple name change!
The creation of the Premier League was not simply a name change - the 22 First Division clubs all resigned from the Football League at the end of the 1991-1992 season, and the PL was created as an entirely new entity.
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« on: Tue 29 Aug 2023 14:19 »
I don't fully understand the reasoning behind these formal complaints. The PGMOL have, under Howard Webb, shown themselves very willing to publicly apologise when a referee makes a significant error. They have not seen fit to do so in this case, correctly in my view, so surely it would be better for Nottingham Forest to discuss with the PGMOL privately any concerns they have. What is the expectation of this complaint? An apology? Atwell to be punished? It isn't clear to me what purpose this serves other than to set up a somewhat adversarial relationship, publicly, between the clubs and the PGMOL.
To be clear, of course clubs should have the right to complain. I just feel this method is rather vague and meaningless and possibly not conducive with a positive outcome for all involved. Transparency is good, but this seems only a semi transparent process with all we know being that a club is unhappy with a refereeing performance, formally.
If there is something in the process I am missing I would be delighted if any better informed posters (most on here are!) could inform me?
The cynics amongst us might suggest that by publicly announcing that they are making an official complaint, when the next "controversial" decision doesn't go in their favour, they might claim that they are victims of a witch hunt because they dared to make a complaint previously. I, on the other hand, couldn't possibly comment.
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« on: Fri 25 Aug 2023 08:02 »
I think this interview has set our relationships with everyone else involved in football back years.
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« on: Sun 20 Aug 2023 10:11 »
 On first viewing I can see why the referee has given the penalty, although I'm surprised VAR hasn't recommended a review. Once the foul has been given then it's a DOGSO yellow.
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« on: Sat 22 Jul 2023 10:40 »
I know I sometimes get things wrong so maybe someone can clarify for me.
When the first Japan penalty was overturned, should the YC for the Zambian GK not have been rescinded?
She'd not have had a RC with associated upcoming suspension then
If play continues after an incident which is then reviewed, disciplinary action taken during the post-incident period is not cancelled, even if the original decision is changed (except YC/RCs for stopping a promising attack/DOGSO). This was a reckless challenge, so the YC stands.
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« on: Mon 12 Jun 2023 15:40 »
First one is a red for me - either for SFP for the first leg following through and catching the opponent just above the ankle, or for VC for the 'trailing' leg coming up and kicking him in the knee.
Second one is a negligible amount of force IMO. I could have understood (but not agreed) if the referee had shown red on first viewing, but I don't think VAR should be getting involved there. Gambian player deserved a second yellow for simulation as well!
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« on: Wed 24 May 2023 13:24 »
Viewing the Guimaraes challenge at full speed, there is simply not enough force in the tackle for it to qualify as endangering the opponent's safety IMO. Reckless at worst.
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« on: Wed 24 May 2023 00:58 »
Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!! Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?
I have seen the ball positioned with just part overhanging the spot on several occasions this season. It is within the Laws as they are interpreted these days.
Nothing to do with how they are interpreted, it is how they are written. For the ball to be in the corner arc it just needs to be touching the line, just the same a a ball touching the touchline is still in play. Not really sure what your point is.
Not touching - overhanging!
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« on: Thu 27 Apr 2023 10:58 »
The article defines the "delays" mentioned as the time from the ball going out of play to play restarting, but free kicks, corners, goal kicks, throw ins, penalties and goals are all part and parcel of the game and there will always be some natural time wastage associated with them, without it rising to the level of "timewasting". No mention of whether substitutions being made are included in the "delay time". And obviously, the average "delay" for penalties and goals is massively skewed by VAR checks (also occasionally delaying other restarts), which are unavoidable.
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« on: Tue 18 Apr 2023 00:03 »
Missing things is understandable and forgivable but seeing things that didn't happen raises questions.
To paraphrase Sir Humphrey - it is characteristic of every incident occurring on the field of play that every individual in attendance has a vivid recollection of them, and that every individual's recollection of them differs violently from every other individual's recollection. It is an inexorable flaw of being human that information received by the senses can become distorted when the brain attempts to discern or recollect said information. I would call it unseemly to imply anything other than human error as being the cause of the mistake here, as you appear to be doing.
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