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I believe that both "contentious" decisions would have fallen into the cricket umpiring definition of "Umpire's call".

If we are to continue to seek 100% clarity / correctness on every decision then one of two things will happen:
~  The wording of the Laws of the Game will become even more unmanageably complicated (see handball and offside for examples of this).
~  Everyone is going to get more and more frustrated.
Possibly both!

There has to be - in a fast and fluid game such as football - areas where the referee makes a decision which is:
~  Not palpably wrong.
~  Not deemed 100% correct by all objective observers.
And yet accepted as a reasonable decision. 

It may be the case that another referee in another game would reach a different decision but that does not make either incorrect.  It already happens dozens of times in a game.  If we stopped seeking the nirvana of 100% accuracy and concentrated on applying the Laws in a fair, consistent and reasonable way, the game would surely benefit.

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General Discussion / Re: Stuart Attwell - Everton vs Fulham
« on: Mon 14 Aug 2023 17:42 »
According to Dermot on Ref Watch, had the foul on the keeper not been given the goal would have been chalked off for offside.

Right outcome via the wrong route??

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General Discussion / Re: New directives - so far?
« on: Sun 13 Aug 2023 19:10 »
From what I have seen so far, the referees are sticking to the plan.

We have not yet (I think) had a case of a second yellow card for time-wasting or waving the imaginary card - that will be an acid test.

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General Discussion / Re: The VAR thread
« on: Sun 13 Aug 2023 19:05 »
Why do VAR officials apparently need to wear their kit just to view TV pictures? Can they not wear "civvies"?

I think it's psychological to make them feel part of the team. It's also a work uniform so reinforces it's work time

And - as a work uniform - can be provided tax free!

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General Discussion / Re: USA v Sweden (Stephanie Frappart)
« on: Tue 08 Aug 2023 10:55 »
I suspect (i.e. I am guessing!) that the referee got a "beep" on her watch to indicate a goal but - given the significance of the decision - wanted a second opinion from VAR before calling it. 

Can you imagine the mayhem and chaos if it had been an erroneous "beep"??


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England vs Nigeria   -   Match 54
Referee: Melissa Borjas (Honduras)
Assistant referee: Shirley Perello (Honduras)
Assistant referee: Sandra Ramirez (Mexico)
Fourth official: Emikar Calderas Barrera (Venezuela)
Reserve assistant referee: Migdalia Rodríguez Chirino (Venezuela)
Video assistant referee: Armando Villarreal (United States)
Assistant video assistant referee: Drew Fischer (Canada)
Offside video assistant referee: Felisha Mariscal (United States)

I have just watched the BBC highlights from this game as it was at an inconvenient time for those needing to work and not having access to a TV!

The penalty to England that was over-turned is an odd one.  Is the VAR saying to the referee that it was "too soft", or the England player went down too easily?  Had it not been given, I am sure that nothing would have been said - but for the VAR to intervene is quite a big call.

The other "talking point" is the sending off of the England player.  First thing to say is that the correct outcome was (eventually) reached.  I am concerned, however, on Melissa Borjas' thought processes.  As she blew and cautioned the England player; to my mind she can only have:
~ Not seen it clearly, reacted and - to some extent - "guessed".
~ Seen it clearly and issued the wrong sanction.
Either way it is quite a significant error.

I'd welcome thoughts on both incidents from those who saw the match in full.

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General Discussion / Re: Soccer Saturday : Sky Sports
« on: Mon 07 Aug 2023 17:08 »
Not sure where to post this so please feel free to move it but , deary me Sky Sports Soccer Saturday is very dull I know it’s the first weekend of the season but if this is what’s in store it won’t have a lot of viewers
Good.  Just go to a game then you won't have to worry about it.  ;)

A tad harsh.  Many of us cannot go to a game on a Saturday afternoon for numerous reasons .....

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General Discussion / Re: S Attwell ARS-MCI Community Shield
« on: Sun 06 Aug 2023 18:53 »
Thought we were going to lose her with Attwell in charge but we hung on and got a deserved win I thought but yeah Attwell inconsistent knew Partey would of got booked for kicking ball away same for Alvarez and if Arteta keeps going with his antics he will be spending more time in the stands than the dugout this season and that’s coming from an Arsenal fan

According to the TV commentary, managers banished from the Technical Area are not allowed in the stands and must go to the dressing room. 

Arteta's yellow card was 100% correct, but the non-caution for the shirt pull was 100% incorrect.  Either Attwell is refereeing a pre-season friendly and is allowed to play fast and loose with the Laws or he is not.  He has tried to ride both horses today and fallen off.

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General Discussion / Re: Pyramid Patrol 2023/24
« on: Thu 03 Aug 2023 17:31 »
Your explanation is, I am reasonably certain, the correct one.

The version I have always heard has the order Hull, Hell and Halifax.


Yes, the order Hull, Hell and Halifax is the one I have known. I have to say that I have never visited any of the three though I would quite like to visit Hull and Halifax one day.

Beware of Halifax, Whistleblower. It retains Gaol Lane (home of the Royal Mail sorting office) and more ominously still it boasts Gibbet Street.

Given the Royal Mail's recent industrial relations issues and other "challenges" (and I speak from personal experience!), Gaol Lane is no surprise at all.

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General Discussion / Re: R.I.P. John Moules
« on: Mon 31 Jul 2023 19:08 »
RIP John - always available to help an up and coming referee allied to a well-developed dry sense of humour.

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General Discussion / Re: Sunderland v RCD Mallorca
« on: Sun 30 Jul 2023 18:12 »
I can only imagine that these cards aren’t enforced / don’t count for the season, otherwise you’d have to be stupid to be banned, at that level, because of a friendly. If not enforced, they should be and might make some idiots think twice.

I think you might be over-estimating the intelligence of the average football player ........

102
If previous efforts are to be followed, there will be a spike in cautions, send-offs and (on this occasion) additional time added followed by outcry and a call to use "common sense", followed by a gradual reversion to the status quo ante.



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Cannot remember for sure, but it was more recently than you'd imagine.

As a Kent fan, I would advocate that the Southern Group should have five qualifiers and the Northern Group three.   That would more adequately reflect the relative strengths of the two groups.

Now off to get my tin hat on to repel the bombardment of "feedback" from our northern correspondents.   ;D

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Given that Gibraltar (one of the smallest EUFA "nations" by population) has only one EUFA referee and he has a game in the First Qualifying Round of the Conference League .... the answer might be yes.
 

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Please can those who run football be made to read this?

Any lip-reader can see the same abuse dealt out in almost every Premier League encounter and no action is taken.  Not the referee's fault, he is simply doing what is employers require.  But - for all the reasons stated at the end of the article (especially the last one) - football needs to address this.

No-one deserves to  be abused in this way for doing their job and the guys and girls on the park are totally exposed to the loons who do this safe in the knowledge that their "colleagues" at the highest level get away with it scot free. 

It has to change.



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