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I Spy Old Refs! / Re: George Courtney (Spennymoor) and his assistents in European cups season 1979/80
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Duncan Jackson was, I believe a man of Kent (or a Kentish man).
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I Spy Old Refs! / Re: George Courtney (Spennymoor) and his assistents in European cups season 1979/80« on: Mon 28 Jun 2021 13:21 »
Duncan Jackson was, I believe a man of Kent (or a Kentish man).
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General Discussion / Re: Tim Robinson« on: Sun 27 Jun 2021 16:28 »Was he any good at either?22nd June 2021I saw Martin Bodenham referee top division football and umpire first class cricket. Martin was an excellent referee who had a reputation (in his early Football League years at least) of being a bit of a car shark. Less so, later on. He was - as you describe - a perfect gentleman with a good sense of humour. He also did a lot of work developing end mentoring Sussex referees and helping to further their careers. He must have been a very good umpire, because not many (in those days) made to the First Class list without having played at that level. There are more these days, but the ECB still regards playing at that level as a definite positive when it comes to umpiring. Of course, the willingness of a large number of retiring first class cricketers facilitates this, I do not see the same volume of top footballers queueing up to do the same. 468
General Discussion / Re: Promotion 2021« on: Fri 25 Jun 2021 12:57 »No 5 to 4 promotions either and that also now runs August 2020 to April 2022. I suspect they are going to have a real shortage of level 4s in some areas, and the FA have said there may be interim promotions but as yet haven't said when, guess they will wait to see how bad the shortages are. Whilst there are no 4 to 3 promotions, or 4 to 5 demotions, every year L4s are lost through natural wastage. May well be worse this year as some might have got so used to having their Saturdays and midweeks back that they decide not to return. That was my reason for quitting L3, I spent a few months out after knee surgery and realised I wasn't really missing it, certainly not as much as I should have been. Exactly the reason I stopped. Decided to take a short break in 2011 to see if I was missing it. Ten years later ............ It was clearly time to heed the advice of many players, fans, some colleagues and more than a few assessors and hang up the whistle. 469
General Discussion / Re: To Drop or not to drop? That is the question.« on: Thu 24 Jun 2021 15:04 »
Agree. Its a safety net, he should have used it.
Or he could have not been in the way in the first place, but I have already had a rant about that on the Euros section .... 470
International Appointments / Re: Uefa champions league 2021/2022« on: Sun 20 Jun 2021 11:05 »
Maybe he'll be hanging around to referee the "final" ??
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General Discussion / Re: Duplicate appointments« on: Thu 17 Jun 2021 08:33 »
It was not a rarity in the 1990s. On more than one occasion I lined a South East Counties League game on a Saturday morning, then either lined of the London Spartan League or refereed a local game the same afternoon. That was followed up with two games on the Woolwich and District Sunday League the next day as the league had "morning" and "afternoon" sections.
This can be attributed to a combination of youthful eagerness, a smooth talking appointments secretary and the timeless imbalance of supply (games) and demand (referees) Many years later, I refereed a FL Youth under 19s game on a Saturday morning and was diverted on the way home to referee an Isthmian League game in the afternoon. But that was to bail out an appointments secretary who realised (with horror) at about 1pm that he had a game sans a referee. It was very much a one-off. Just recounting the above is making me weary and in need of a lie down! 472
General Discussion / Re: The VAR thread« on: Fri 11 Jun 2021 06:56 »
However its done, Offside is still a binary thing - it is either offside or not offside and someone will still be called offside by "a toenail".
So the moaning will not cease - unless, football introduces the equivalent of "umpire's call". But for that, the ARs will have to make the "call" (as opposed to today's "wait and see" protocols" and - as long as it is within an agreed tolerance level- what they say goes. It does mean that you could have two identical scenarios with one called offside and the other not, but that is what happens in cricket and they sort of accept that. Might be a bit of a stretch for football though? 473
General Discussion / Re: Israeli Cup Final VAR AGAIN« on: Wed 09 Jun 2021 15:27 »
Its good to see that the introduction of VAR has eliminated controversary and dissent from the game.
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General Discussion / Re: Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport« on: Wed 02 Jun 2021 10:07 »Lots of opinions here and I start from the neutral position of not having seen the game or any of the incidents mentioned. But some of the comments are literally staggering. I would almost always disagree with a statement - whether it is made by a player, manager or fan - that a single decision cost their team the game, promotion or forced them to be relegated. Over a season the best teams in a league end up at the top and the worst ones end up at the bottom. But the play-offs (exciting that they can be) are a cup semi-final and final used to decide which of four sides should receive a final promotion place. And a penalty decision in the second half of extra time of a tight final (no goals, few clear-cut chances) does come close to being a game decider. And if that decision is incorrect it makes the argument that "the referee's decision cost us promotion" harder to refute. The first-half penalty decision, however, does not justify the same argument. The penalty kick might not have been converted. Had Newport scored a very different (more open?) game would have ensued. 475
General Discussion / Re: PL referee of the season 2020-21« on: Tue 01 Jun 2021 18:10 »I rather thought KH would draw some harsh words. Anyone who is not in need of "more coaching" is either: 1) Perfect (but see "2" below) 2) Deluded 3) Retired 4) Keith Hackett (but see "2" above) 476
General Discussion / Re: PL referee of the season 2020-21« on: Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:26 »
Pace is over-rated. An Assessor once said of me: "For someone with no discernible sprint or change of pace, you do seem to manage to be able to be in roughly the right place at roughly the right time". I think that comes under the heading of "damning with faint praise" !! 477
Non Footy Appointments / Re: International Cricket Appointments« on: Sat 29 May 2021 13:19 »Netherlands v Ireland ODI Super League Series Would it not be more appropriate to designate Adrian Holdstock as the "non-local" umpire? Calling him "neutral" does tend to suggest that the local umpires appointed are not neutral. We do all know that is not the case but for the uneducated ......? 478
General Discussion / Re: Clement Turpin Villarreal vs Man Utd« on: Thu 27 May 2021 18:07 »
m'Lady ?? 479
Football League - L1 & L2 / Re: PlayOffs 2021« on: Mon 24 May 2021 18:31 »Harrington has certainly gone under my radar somewhat which, I should add, is generally a most commendable thing. If SG1 take 2 promotions then he and Gillett are the candidates with Madley and Hicks going up to SG2. Maybe the accepted view is that Gillett did enough on Saturday and Harrington needs another "test" to confirm (or otherwise) his promotion credentials? 480
Select Group 2 / Re: PlayOffs 2021« on: Fri 21 May 2021 12:42 »And hasn’t Harrington been appointed to the F A Trophy Final this weekend?Yes, that explains why both have been removed then. Difficult, when knowing the difference between one's a**e and elbow proves to be too challenging |