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Interesting that tierney and pawson swap roles in villa v spurs from the villa v liverpool fa cup tie days earlier.
Not good appointing one would say.

Good appointment for England, hope he does well.

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General Discussion / Re: Coronavirus latest
« on: Sat 02 Jan 2021 20:01 »
The EFL canít carry on with these levels of postponements.... most of the new year games have been called off and now we are seeing games iced off due to the weather...
It is getting to the stage where a break is needed, two weeks wont be enough as the players will still attend training and mix. As money talks in football guess the premier league and championship will be able to afford
More regular testing and they have bigger squads, thus will be able to carry on a bit longer, but the nature of the virus means it will Catch up with those leagues very soon.

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General Discussion / Re: VARce - Man Utd vs. Villa
« on: Sat 02 Jan 2021 19:46 »

Might he have done so if it had happened at the other end? Just asking what I am sure some of us may be feeling.
The gods are certainly favouring Utd this season - penalty after time v Brighton, 98th min winner v Wolves and a few other 50/50 decisions.

Must be the sir alex effect from the stand.

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After seeing a couple of replays it was a foul just about, but was clearly outside the box. Thatís twice that Coote has been forced to give a penalty on the advice of VAR. his confidence must be shot!
Didnt coote give the penalty on field straight away? Just var didnt over turn it ie agreeing it was a foul and it was in the area.

740
General Discussion / Re: VARce - Man Utd vs. Villa
« on: Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:36 »
What are you on about?? Luiz trips Pogba's left leg. Yes it might be soft, but Oliver couldn't be better placed to see it!
It wasnt the farce that another posted has stated, but on close examination i beg to differ, pogba appears to clip his right leg With his left clue yellow boot not white. Whether the arm was enough of a pull back from luiz i am not sure, very soft. Oliver was in a great position and i dont blame him at all but the var seemed to complete his check very quickly. As dean smith said it looked a penalty all day long on first sighting, but one of the latter replays from the stand looking down the penalty area appeared to show otherwise. Perhaps the var didnt have That angle available at the time.
I disagree with you but what I will say is that Oliver thinks it is a penalty on his first viewing and instinct and who is to argue with that?
Couldnt agree with you more on olivers decision on first viewing and instinct.
I disagree on this occasion with the var, whom i would say didnt review thoroughly.

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General Discussion / Re: VARce - Man Utd vs. Villa
« on: Fri 01 Jan 2021 23:22 »
I thought it was soft but not wrong - there was definitely contact between Luiz and Pogba.  It is definitely not a clear and obvious error, so Tierney should not be referring it to the screen.
Not saying you are wrong but we have seen less so called clear and obvious errors referred to the screen.

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General Discussion / Re: VARce - Man Utd vs. Villa
« on: Fri 01 Jan 2021 22:57 »
What are you on about?? Luiz trips Pogba's left leg. Yes it might be soft, but Oliver couldn't be better placed to see it!
It wasnt the farce that another posted has stated, but on close examination i beg to differ, pogba appears to clip his right leg With his left clue yellow boot not white. Whether the arm was enough of a pull back from luiz i am not sure, very soft. Oliver was in a great position and i dont blame him at all but the var seemed to complete his check very quickly. As dean smith said it looked a penalty all day long on initially, but one of the latter replays from the stand looking down the penalty area appeared to show otherwise. Perhaps the var didnt have That angle available at the time.
I maybe looking at this through claret tinted eyes, but i am usually the first to back the referee when in the crowd.
Good game, thought oliver carded a few of the utd players ie matic and shaw a foul too late but otherwise was
Always in control as you would expect from one of our top refs.
Think man utd just about deserved their victory over the 90 mins but villa have come a long way in a short time.

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General Discussion / Re: Harrogate V Carlisle
« on: Thu 31 Dec 2020 14:13 »
Yes, that's the one, and it's good that this farce was recorded for posterity. Seriously, although things obviously got worse in the 5-6 minutes in which play was possible, there was no way the match should have started, with conditions on the nearside being unplayable from the start. A classic and thanks SuffolkRef for locating it.
Brings back memories of the odd occasions grimsby played northern intermediate league games at blundell park,
They usually played at the now cleethorpes town fc ground on cleethorpes rd, For a short guy i was always knee deep in mud on the line at the findus stand side of the ground.
That stand was aptly named, most people froze in that stand esp in a ne gale off the sea.

744
A change for the second test between Australia and India, Rod Tucker isnít standing. Bruce Oxenford and Paul Reiffel are the on-field umpires, Paul Wilson is the TV umpire.
My thoughts are with rod and his family.

745
General Discussion / Re: D ENGLAND - Fulham v Southampton
« on: Thu 31 Dec 2020 10:34 »
In my experience the 4th official would be asked to create a "stoppages" log, i.e. make a note of all stoppages for subs, injuries, lengthy goal restarts, etc.  Then towards the end of each half either the referee will say I'm going to play x minutes, do you agree, or the 4th official will suggest a time and the referee will agree or disagree.

The main benefit of this approach is that if either team complain about the added time, be it either too little or too much, the 4th official can clearly show how it has been constructed.

So you are suggesting that on the many, many occasions our top referees are criminally negligent with their abysmal timekeeping it's not just one man at fault but he has an accomplice as well ?

Sadly referees have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted to keep time properly. Fair enough, they have plenty of other things to worry about. Give the job to someone else.

Where did I say that?  They time the subs, they time the injuries, they time anything else that is classed as a significant stoppage.  They write it all down, add it all up, and come to the added time.

Remember that the ball is only in play for an average of 29 minutes in a half of a football game, and that is at the top level.  No one is expecting 16 minutes stoppage time, and that is where the timekeeper element falls a bit flat

The Rugby codes are far better implementing this with the independent time keeper, the miked up referee simply says time off the clock on the screen stops and restarts when the referee says time on. Everyone can hear and see
What is happening both on tv and in stadium. The clock runs until 80 mins and the hooter sounds, then the referee blows his whistle to end the game at the next opportunity within the rules of game. Football has a lot to learn.

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General Discussion / Re: D ENGLAND - Fulham v Southampton
« on: Wed 30 Dec 2020 14:01 »
I believe that they tell the 4O to stop and then restart their watch as appropriate.
That is how the amount of stoppage time is arrived at
That would make sense and seem a good idea, it was just when i reffed locally many yrs ago before comms at least 2 officials ie ref and senior assistant would stop their watches. The senior assistant in case he had to take
Over or if the refs watch malfunctioned.
Thanks for clearing that up.

747
General Discussion / Re: D ENGLAND - Fulham v Southampton
« on: Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:09 »
But it is added.
How would you prefer it to be described?
Stoppage time is what i prefer it to be described as. Ie the amount of time that the referee has stopped his watch
For during the game.

Apart from that doesn't work, as no senior referee ever stops their watch during a game, at least not unless there is a lengthy stoppage like for a serious injury.

If no senior referee ever stops their watch during a game, then that adds to the clamour for independent time keepers.

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General Discussion / Re: Utd v Wolves
« on: Wed 30 Dec 2020 11:04 »
Open letter to Jon Moss

Dear Mr Moss,
Please can you explain for us decent, honest fans where those 5 extra minutes came from? Maybe Mrs Moss needs to buy you a new watch in the post Christmas sales.
Sincerely,
Confused Football Fans
On another thread it was stated that referees dont stop their watches during delays to the game in the uk top flight, therefore until Independent time keepers are introduced, we will never know what is the correct amount of stoppage time to play.

Mr moss, apart from getting in the path of the ball a few times, had a good game and i thought the stoppage time allowed was about correct.

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General Discussion / Re: D ENGLAND - Fulham v Southampton
« on: Sun 27 Dec 2020 21:50 »
But it is added.
How would you prefer it to be described?
Stoppage time is what i prefer it to be described as. Ie the amount of time that the referee has stopped his watch
For during the game.

750
General Discussion / Re: D ENGLAND - Fulham v Southampton
« on: Sat 26 Dec 2020 22:32 »
Itís high time the powers that be get an independent time keeper to control the clock.

Three substitutions made in the injury time after the allotted four minutes went up on the board and England blows up bang on four minutes just before Fulham would have had a corner.

Mike Dean also allowed a minimum of four minutes in the leicester v man utd game today, however at the time the ninety minutes were up there was a stoppage in play, the game resumed forty five seconds later ie at 90.45 on
The tv screen but dean blew The final whistle at 94.02. It makes you wonder if and when they stop their watches
During the game.
Hate it when commentators refer to it as added time.

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