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46
I Spy Old Refs! / Arnold Josephs
« on: Sun 15 May 2022 21:40 »
Fair price sought for referee memorabilia

The (Newcastle) Journal
14 Apr 2021
Tony Henderson

Football ruled the roost in a Tyneside family where five brothers were all referees. The Josephs family lived in South Shields, where Stan Mortensen has long been hailed as the top footballer to be produced by the town.

Now an auction has revived the memory of another largely forgotten son of South Shields who also reached the tip of the football tree – as a referee.

Teacher Arnold Josephs, the fourth of the five brothers, took charge of the 1926 Scotland v Ireland international at Celtic Park and in 1929 he was the referee for the F.A. Cup Final between Bolton and Portsmouth and the Scotland v England clash at Hampden Park.

On Thursday four programmes signed by Arnold – for games in which he officiated plus refereeing memorabilia will be sold by Newcastle auctioneers Anderson and Garland with an estimate of £500-£800. The games are Grimsby Town v Manchester City, September 4 1926; Huddersfield Town v Sheffield (Wednesday), February 12 1927; Leeds United v Birmingham City, May 4 1929; and Manchester United v Sheffield United, March 28 1931, all signed by Josephs. (they sold for £2,800 plus commission)

Arnold began his refereeing career at the age of 15. He was mistaken for one of his brothers who had failed to turn up to take charge of a game, and Arnold obliged. During the First World War he refereed matches in the Victory League and while serving in the Army he officiated at military games.
Arnold was a pupil at Westoe Secondary School in South Shields from 1903 to 1908. He taught at Barnes Elementary School in the town and then gained further teaching qualifications at training college in Sunderland. He joined Westoe Senior Elementary School in 1914 and in 1919, he moved to South Shields High School, where he taught geography and sport until retirement in 1956.

His sporting life outside school took off when in 1920 he gained his refereeing certificate from Durham Football Association, progressing to the Football Association referees list in 1926. He suffered a knee injury during a match between Ashington and Southport and had to retire. His last game was Leeds United v Derby on May 2, 1936. He continued his links with football by writing a column for a national newspaper and was president of the South Shields Referees Association for 25 years. He died in 1964, aged 93. (that should read 1984)

Football programmes and ephemera.
Sold for £2,800

Lot details
Football programmes and ephemera relating to Arnold Josephs, Professional Referee - The Football Association Referees' Chart, Season 1928-29; The List of Referees and Linesmen for April & May 1930; four programmes for matches refereed by Josephs - Grimsby Town v Manchester City, September 4th 1926, Huddersfield Town v Sheffield Wednesday, February 12th 1927, Leeds United v Birmingham City, May 4th 1929, and Manchester United v Sheffield United, March 28th 1931, all items signed by Josephs. (6)

NB: Arnold Josephs (1890-1983) was born in Poland and was the fourth of five brothers, all of whom became soccer referees. He was educated in South Shields and Sunderland and qualified as a secondary school teacher. By the 1950's he was Senior House Master of Chapman House School, but had been refereeing since the age of 15. He became an official Football Association Referee in 1926, first officiating at the Scotland v Ireland match, 22nd February. His most notable game was perhaps the Cup- Final between Bolton Wanderers v Portsmouth in 1929, and in the same year he conducted the England v Scotland International at Hampden Park. He retired from the professional game in 1936 due to a knee injury, but continued to write his "Knotty Soccer Problems" column in the Daily Express and acted as President of the South Shields Referees' Association for many years later. He died in Hull at the ripe old age of 93.


He died 9th January 1984 and was born in South Shields, son of a Jewish family from Poland.

47
I Spy Old Refs! / Ian Byers (Renfrewshire, Scotland)
« on: Fri 11 Mar 2022 15:16 »
Ian Byers, Scottish F.A. Referee and Linesman from Renfrewshire, more recently a Referee Supervisor died in late February 2022

48
I Spy Old Refs! / Gerry Evans (Bishopbriggs, Scotland)
« on: Fri 11 Mar 2022 15:12 »
Glasgow R.A. expressed their sadness at the passing of Gerry Evans of Bishopbriggs earlier this month (November 2021) after a short illness.

Gerry famously sent off four Hearts players in 21 minutes in their match against Rangers at Ibrox early in the 1996-97 season.

He served as a Class 1 Referee for 12 years, retiring after the 1996-97 after failing to recover from a hamstring injury.

He became a Referee Supervisor / Observer, firstly for the East Glasgow area, then the West, for a total of 21 years.

49
General Discussion / Teams awarded four penalties in a match
« on: Sun 30 Jan 2022 19:27 »
Teams awarded four penalties in a match

13.02.1909 Burnley v Grimsby Town 2-0 (Burnley scored 1 of 4, the other three saved) (ref Percy Lewis)
06.10.1920 Forfar Athletic v Ayr United 4-1 (Forfar scored 2 of 4)
17.03.1928 Albion Rovers v Clydebank 4-2 (Clydebank scored 2 of 4, one saved, one missed) (ref H. McLachlan)
(all four given against the Albion Rovers centre half for handball)
27.03.1989 Crystal Palace v Brighton & H.A. 2-1 (Crystal Palace scored 1 of 4, one saved, two missed) (ref Kelvin Morton)
(Brighton's goal was another penalty)
20.03.1996 Oviedo v Valladolid 3-8 (Alen Peternac of Valladolid scored all 4) (ref Jose Japon-Sevilla)
(two of the Oviedo's goals were also penalties, so a total of six in the match)
02.02.2019 Rangers v St. Mirren 4-0 (Rangers scored 3 of 4, the other was missed) (ref Andrew Dallas)
29.01.2022 Gillingham v Oxford United 2-7 (Cameron Brannagan of Oxford scored all 4) (ref Bobby Madley)

50
I Spy Old Refs! / David Dennis Juggins / Maitland
« on: Fri 21 Jan 2022 19:36 »
David Dennis Juggins (1918-95), Football League Linesman

Son of Dennis Juggins and Hilda Bull

Birth registered Q4 1918 West Ham Registration District

In Stroud 1935-53, Romford 1958-64, Merimbula, N.S.W., Australia 1985-95

Partner Joyce Alice Bartlett (1921-85)

Their son Peter (1946-2006) registered in Romford (although David was in Stroud both before and after this)
but with Maitland as his family name

David changed his name with the Football League in September 1960 from Juggins to Maitland

So he appears as Juggins in the 1960-61 F.L. handbook, but as Maitland in 1961-62




51
Trivia & Humour / Flowers
« on: Tue 28 Dec 2021 13:55 »
01   The ‘lady of the house’ precedes a pail
02   ….....and her best china was decorated with these
03   American military police
04   Amphibian linen
05   Anglers bling 
06   Audible in a cathedral city
07   Automobile country race
08   Babe helped round these up
09   Best policy
10   Chemical element loses a thousand
11   Citric soother
12   Cloak for a female aristocrat
13   Comes before a fall for capital dwellers
14   Do they all come from Amsterdam?
15   Does it tire easily?
16   Don’t get amnesia
17   Eeyore’s favourite
18   Emblem of the Bonapartes is almost aggessive
19   Fastens single gentlemen’s clothes
20   Feeling down, but also beautiful in France
21   Gather it in the spring again if you are lucky
22   Hard to find one’s sweetheart in a fog
23   He was elusive in 1789
24   Head covering for monastery inmate
25   Herb of French street
26   Implement for mulling wine?
27   Injured Cupid
28   Lest we forget
29   Looking well, if you are in it
30   Lucky if white
31   Lucky with four leaves
32   Making a chain is child’s play
33   Missing the end for smiling eyes
34   Money saving characteristic
35   Photograph mythical beast
36   She didn’t know where she got her name (HMS Pinafore)
37   She is for remembrance
38   Single spectator at a dance
39   Smart and fashionable large cat
40   Sounds like a foe
41   Speedy animal sounds beautiful in France
42   Sugary Conqueror
43   The path for a life of pleasure
44   This would still have a lovely scent whatever it was called
45   To wed wealth
46   Vain Greek
47   Vegetable that isn’t sour
48   Wandering poet saw a host
49   Wily animal keeps its paws warm with these
50   Wise man in the Middle East

52
Trivia & Humour / Drinks
« on: Sun 26 Dec 2021 16:52 »
01   A Bond to this drink will quench his thirst. 7
02   A favourite in the Hog’s Head. 6, 4
03   Aids recovery. 8
04   Alcoholic early morning in Mexico. 7, 7
05   Almost bigger than life. 5
06   American gold top of the pops. 5, 4
07   Any one in a storm. 4
08   Attached to a motorbike. 7
09   Beat it up....and why? 6
10   Beneath large lump of ice. 9
11   Black & yellow insect with olfactory organ. 4
12   Blow one to tell the time, the other sticks to your clothes 9,3,7
13   Blushing animal trap.4, 3
14   Butter or sauce with this for the Christmas pud. 6
15   Common Bucks orchard tree comes to the rescue 9
16   Cosy and warm in below the equator 8,7
17   Could make you a trifle sozzled. 6
18   Crafty theft of precious red stone. 7
19   Cricket captain might resort to this?. 4,4
20   Devon bred bovine. 3, 4
21   Did Fred drink this after tennis? 5
22   Dodgy deal lands you one in the face. 3, 5
23   Don’t try putting this on the fire. 4
24   Doris Day has this for two in Beijing. 5, 3
25   Egg shaped pubescent child 8
26   Escape with Rupert Holmes if you like getting caught in the Rin 4,6
27   From Jersey or Friesland, its all white by me! 4
28   From Russia with love. 5
29   H2CO3. 4,5
30   Has bean a good drink for any mug. 6
31   Has this hop brew been out in the sun? 5, 3
32   He who is not with us, is one of these. 1, 8
33   Ideal for chilly winter nights, with cream or rum. 3, 9
34   Is the one in this habit feeling sad? 4, 3
35   It seeps out of Greece. 4
36   Lashings of this for Julian, Dick, George, Anne & Timmy 6,4
37   Let’s get into the Caribbean spirit. 6
38   Like ‘late’ but with an extra cuppa. 5
39   Like a firework in county. 5,4
40   Liquid contents of envious citrus. 4, 5
41   LMFAO sang about these bubbles, not for the bath! 9
42   Magician brother. 4, 7
43   Maharaja’s pick me up. 6, 5, 5
44   Mathew from Portugal, by any other name. 6, 4
45   Maybe needs to begin dieting. 5
46   Mothers ruin. 3
47   Normally kept in the toolbox. 11
48   Not a large yellow stringed instrument. 10
49   Not youngest bloom, very polite. 11, 7
50   Novice letter. 5, 3
51   O vain Burt. (anag.) 9
52   Produced by a dancing cow? 9
53   Really chilly seventh note of the scale 4,3
54   Red one won National triple. 3
55   Resentful sour coward. 6, 5
56   Rises to the top of milk in the Emerald Isle. 5, 5
57   Rumpole worked here. 7
58   Sad cereal
59   Scold Ava (anag.) 8
60   Served by the blind waiter. 5
61   Son in eye part 7
62   Sour help. 8
63   Spice up your moaning with warm thoughts. 6, 4
64   Spirit of the spud. 8
65   Strictly drunk in Argentina. 5
66   Sunset coloured result of big squeeze. 6, 5
67   Taking the mick out of these trousers. 10
68   The food drink of the night. 8
69   This Christmas drink in a wooden cup is not boiled for breakfast 3,3
70   Tinkerbell or similar. 6
71   Was Eve tempted by this bitter treat. 5, 5
72   Welsh people speak English with this. 4
73   What happens to speech if you are drunk. 7
74   White’s little miners climb. 5, 2
75   Winter warmer in Deutchland. 8
76   With every meal in the “Great Hall” with Harry. 7, 5
77   Without Rosie. 5
78   Wot no Judy. 5
79   Wrinkly French dog. 8
80   Young dog in melting snow. 5, 5

53
I Spy Old Refs! / Division 1 Appointments 1946-47 - Analysis
« on: Sun 26 Dec 2021 15:29 »
Of the 462 matches

425 have had the referee identified (excluding Manchester United v Blackpool which has Thurman, a linesman, listed)
334 have had the linesmen identified (excluding Everton v Liverpool where the programme erroneously listed the officials for the next match)

Referees in nearly every case officiated both matches between a pair of clubs
Supplementaries (unlike 1947-48) never took a senior line

There were (in the F.L. handbook)
52 Full referees (only 3 did not take a Div 1 match)
30 Supplementaries (only 2 did not take a Div 1 match)
245 Linesmen

Of the linesmen 32 took Senior Lines only, 117 both Sr & Jr, 36 Jr only and the remaining 60 none in Div 1
The 60 were often "hampered" by their location, with S.W., N.E. and Wales generally missing out

In addition 7 officials have been "found" that were not listed in the F.L. handbook
5 of these appeared the season before and/or the season following
Eric Newman joined the F.L. in 48-49 and G.E. Thorneycroft eludes fuller identification

In the list below the coluumns represent
1 = Identification Number
2 = Status (Full/Supplementary/Line/Additional)
3&4 = For referees (No. Matches Reffed/Sr Lines), For Linesmen (Sr Lines / Jr Lines)

1   1   8   0   Appleyard   George C   Rotherham
2   1   9   0   Baker   Arthur   Crewe
3   1   9   0   Baker   Ernest W   Manchester
4   1   8   0   Barrick   C John "Jack"   Northampton
5   1   9   0   Berry   Herbert   Huddersfield
6   1   8   0   Blackhall   George S   Wednesbury
7   1   3   0   Boardman   Stanley   Hale
8   1   5   0   Brown   Lawrence   Barnes
9   1   3   0   Clark   George   Lewisham
10   1   5   0   Daly   William  L F   Orpington
11   1   8   0   Dixon   William H   Lincoln
12   1   7   0   Duerden   Robert    Morecambe
13   1   9   0   Evans   William "Bill" H E   Liverpool
14   1   7   0   Fletcher   Clifford   Northwich
15   1   4   0   Ford   Arthur T   Ilford
16   1   6   0   Gibbs   Lionel E   Reading
17   1   6   0   Greenwood   Reginald "Reg" C   Norwood S.E.19
18   1   2   0   Hann   George H   Glastonbury
19   1   6   0   Hartles   Harry (sic)   York
20   1   7   0   Hartley   Harold "Harry"   Bolton
21   1   9   0   Iliffe   George L   Leicester
22   1   0   0   Johnson   Geoffrey    Effingham
23   1   8   0   Law   Samuel E   West Bromwich
24   1   4   0   Lowe   Frederick "Fred" J   Bath
25   1   9   0   Martin   William "Bill"   Leeds
26   1   6   0   Meadows   Arthur   Redcar
27   1   7   0   Milner   Frederick "Fred" S   Wolverhampton
28   1   8   0   Moore   Harold W   Halifax
29   1   8   0   Mortimer   Reginald "Reg" A   Huddersfield
30   1   7   0   Nattrass   Henderson "Harry"   Sunderland
31   1   6   0   Nicholson   Edward F   Darlington
32   1   6   0   Nixon   William B   Manchester
33   1   9   0   Parker   John "Jack" H   Crewe
34   1   7   0   Pearce   Henry "Harry"   Luton
35   1   11   0   Plinston   Edward "Ted"   Warrington
36   1   2   0   Plyer   William E H   Bournemouth
37   1   2   0   Reader   George   Southampton
38   1   0   0   Ross-Gower   Walter E   Norbury S.W.16
39   1   8   0   Salmon   George   Stoke
40   1   2   0   Searle   George V   Salisbury
41   1   5   0   Smith   Ernest D   Whitehaven
42   1   6   0   Smith   Tom (sic) "Thomas"   Atherstone
43   1   6   0   Snape   Percy (sic)   Manchester
44   1   6   0   Stevens   Percy (sic)   Luton
45   1   4   0   Strainge   William "Bill" T   Bristol
46   1   11   0   Tedds   George   Bestwood
47   1   0   0   Wakley   Clifford J   Somerton
48   1   4   0   Williams   Henry "Harry" C   Fulham S.W.6
49   1   6   0   Williams   James   Bolton
50   1   4   0   Wiltshire   John "Jim" (sic) M   Sherborne
51   1   6   0   Wort   Frederick "Fred" W   Liverpool
52   1   5   0   Wright   Harold T   Macclesfield
53   2   0   0   Baker   Baden (sic) R   Westcliff
54   2   5   0   Briggs   Joseph   Cheadle
55   2   2   0   Brown   Jack (sic) N   Ormskirk
56   2   2   0   Bryan   Harry  (sic)   Tipton
57   2   3   0   Chatfield   Sidney   Stoke
58   2   8   0   Denham   Albert C   Preston
59   2   3   0   Ellis   Arthur E   Halifax
60   2   5   0   Flanagan   B Jack (sic)    Sheffield
61   2   5   0   Fox   Samuel   Barnsley
62   2   5   0   Francis   Albert A E   Kirkby in Ashfield
63   2   3   0   Green   Frederick "Fred" C   Wolverhampton
64   2   3   0   Hall   Albert "Curly" C   Chester
65   2   0   0   Hauxwell   Henry "Frank" F   West Wickham
66   2   9   0   Holt   Harry (sic)   Rochdale
67   2   3   0   Lawless   James T   Bury
68   2   3   0   McCarthy   Samuel "Sam" R   Wrexham
69   2   1   0   Norcott   Thomas "Tom" S   Gloucester
70   2   4   0   Pikett   Thomas "Tom" G   Lincoln
71   2   3   0   Porter   Richard N   Darlington
72   2   4   0   Poulter   Percy (sic) W   Hemel Hempstead
73   2   5   0   Prescott   Walter   Southport
74   2   3   0   Rand   Thomas W   Peterlee
75   2   4   0   Roberts   Stanley "Stan" N   Liverpool
76   2   4   0   Schofield   David   Oldham
77   2   4   0   Sunderland   Godfrey   Barnsley
78   2   6   0   Tregellas   John   Birmingham
79   2   4   0   Walton   Frederick "Fred"   Goole
80   2   2   0   Ward   James   Altrincham
81   2   6   0   Womersley   Charles P   Stockport
82   2   5   0   Wood   William E   Luton
83   3   5   1   Adams   Eric   Stoke
84   3   3   1   Aldridge   Robert "Bob" L   Birmingham
85   3   2   1   Allen   Victor S   Chesterfield
86   3   3   2   Annette    Percy (sic) C   Basingstoke
87   3   2   1   Arnott   Eric W   Leeds
88   3   0   0   Arters   Sidney F   Bristol
89   3   0   0   Ashworth   Robert C   Liverpool
90   3   1   3   Atkinson   Charles C   West Hartlepool
91   3   0   0   Attwood   Nathaniel "Nat"   Abertillery
92   3   2   0   Aylott   Leonard G   Croydon
93   3   0   0   Badman   Howard   Street
94   3   3   2   Bailey   Enos   Stoke
95   3   0   0   Baker   Alfred A J   Uxbridge
96   3   3   1   Ball   Charles A   Birmingham
97   3   3   2   Baron   Fred (sic)   Watford
98   3   4   1   Bartlett   Wilfred G   Southampton
99   3   0   0   Bassett   Gerald P   Looe
100   3   4   1   Baughan    Albert E   Hereford
101   3   3   1   Beacock   Harry (sic)   Scunthorpe
102   3   3   1   Beckley   William G   Evesham
103   3   0   1   Berry   Arthur   Liversedge
104   3   0   0   Black   William T   Plumstead
105   3   2   1   Blackburn   Amos   Wakefield
106   3   0   0   Blaney   Storey   Morpeth
107   3   0   0   Blythe   Arthur H   Edmonton N.18
108   3   1   1   Bolam   John L   Newcastle
109   3   0   0   Bond   Alfred "Alf"   Fulham S.W.6
110   3   0   0   Booth   Harold    Halifax
111   3   1   0   Bostock   Stanley "Stan" J   Liverpool
112   3   0   0   Bourne   Stephen   Stoke
113   3   2   1   Breeze   William A   Sutton
114   3   2   3   Briddon   Thomas H   Timperley
115   3   3   1   Brooks   William E   Coventry
116   3   0   0   Brown   Joseph M   Newcastle
117   3   1   4   Brunsdon   Lawrence S   Reading
118   3   0   0   Bryan   George W   Runcorn
119   3   1   1   Bucknall   Charles W L   Cardiff
120   3   2   2   Burchell   Denis J   Bury St. Edmunds
121   3   2   3   Burgess   Roland J   Reading
122   3   0   0   Burns   W J   Newport
123   3   0   0   Burrell   Thomas "Tom" C   Harrow
124   3   4   2   Cadwallader   Llewellyn F   Worthing
125   3   3   0   Carter   Reginald "Reg" C   Swindon
126   3   1   1   Cawkwell   Walter A   Gainsborough
127   3   1   1   Chadwick   Frederick "Fred" W   Leicester
128   3   3   0   Chapman   Frederick J   Coventry
129   3   2   1   Chew   Eric   Prescot
130   3   4   0   Chisem   Albert   Leeds
131   3   3   1   Clark   George   Sale
132   3   1   2   Clayton   John H   Liverpool
133   3   1   3   Clinton   William H   Wolverhampton
134   3   5   1   Clough   John "Jack" H   Bolton
135   3   4   1   Colligan    Peter   Manchester
136   3   1   1   Collinson   John R   Liverpool
137   3   1   0   Cook   Harry (sic) N   Birmingham
138   3   2   3   Coop   C Leonard "Len"   Oldham
139   3   3   0   Cowen   Frank   Manchester
140   3   0   0   Cowing   William G   Carlisle
141   3   3   3   Crook   Eric V   Abingdon
142   3   3   2   Cross   Bert (sic) C   Sudbury
143   3   1   0   Cross   Clifford R   Colchester
144   3   2   2   Cuttell   Leslie "Les"   Birmingham
145   3   0   0   Davey   William "Bill" H   Torquay
146   3   0   0   Davies   A E   Pontypridd
147   3   0   0   Davies   Bryn   Pontypridd
148   3   1   2   Davis   Joseph L   Doncaster
149   3   1   3   Dean   Randal   Chorley
150   3   4   2   Deary   Leonard "Len"   Doncaster
151   3   1   3   Delany     John   Chester
152   3   3   0   Dellow   William "Bill" E   Croydon
153   3   0   0   Devine   Arthur W   Hammersmith
154   3   3   1   Dickinson   Colin   Ellesmere Port
155   3   4   0   Donaldson   George L   Sunderland
156   3   1   3   Dunbar   James "Jim" R   Stapleford
157   3   3   1   Dykes   Harry (sic)   Manchester
158   3   2   4   Eastbrook   Charles W L   Colchester
159   3   2   0   Edge   Harold D   Birmingham
160   3   0   0   Edwards   William "Bill" J   Yeovil
161   3   2   1   Egerton   Leslie G   Hoylake
162   3   2   2   Errington   Albert E   Cheltenham
163   3   0   0   Evans   Glyn C   Llanelli
164   3   2   3   Evans   T E   Mold
165   3   0   0   Fenwick   Harry (sic)   Darlington
166   3   3   3   Fiander   Frank S   Wycombe
167   3   4   0   Finch   Norman L C   Middlesbrough
168   3   0   0   Forrester   John   Sunderland
169   3   1   2   Forshaw   James   Runcorn
170   3   0   1   French   Harold    Trowbridge
171   3   0   3   Gardner   John   Middlesbrough
172   3   3   1   Garrard   Herbert   Rochdale
173   3   1   1   Gayler   Charles H G   Harrow
174   3   2   4   German   Ernest A   Waterlooville
175   3   4   2   Gerrard   F Hugh   Preston
176   3   2   3   Gibson   Gordon   Manchester
177   3   0   0   Gingell   John F   Bristol
178   3   1   1   Glancey   James V   Newcastle
179   3   1   0   Glendenning   Thomas "Tom" W   Sunderland
180   3   0   0   Glenn   Charles "Charlie" W   Liverpool
181   3   0   0   Gow   William J   Swansea
182   3   0   0   Greenwood   Joseph E   Bradford
183   3   0   1   Greig   Edward "Ted" P L   Kensal Rise  N.W.10
184   3   1   3   Griffin   Leslie J   Redditch
185   3   0   0   Griffiths   Benjamin "Sandy" M   Newport
186   3   0   2   Haigh   Norman   Dewsbury
187   3   3   0   Haines   Reginald G   Swindon
188   3   3   1   Hall   Richard "Dick"   Blackpool
189   3   0   0   Hancock   Graham O   Caerphilly
190   3   0   0   Harber   George D   Lewisham
191   3   1   0   Harper   Frank   Rotherham
192   3   1   0   Harris   Leonard J   Bromsgrove
193   3   0   0   Hawkins   R   Reading
194   3   3   0   Haworth   Harry (sic)   Blackburn
195   3   0   0   Hay   Roderick R   Romford 
196   3   0   0   Hedges   C G   Clapham Common
197   3   2   0   Herridge   Ernest W   Watford
198   3   1   0   Heskine   William   Birkenhead
199   3   3   2   Higgins   Harry (sic)   Northwich
200   3   3   3   Hitchen   Thomas   Winsford
201   3   3   0   Hockney   Thomas C   Hemel Hempstead
202   3   0   2   Hodson   Geoffrey R   Kettering
203   3   2   1   Hopkins   John "Jack" E   Birmingham
204   3   0   0   Horsley   Sydney   Coventry
205   3   0   5   Houston   James "Jimmy"   Blackpool
206   3   3   0   Humphries   John C   Doncaster
207   3   3   1   Isom   Stanley J   Colchester
208   3   2   3   Jackson   Frederick S   Preston
209   3   1   2   Jackson   Harry (sic)   Leeds
210   3   0   0   Jacobs   Cecil P   Bath
211   3   1   2   Jarvis   E Thomas   Nuneaton
212   3   1   0   Jarvis   George M   Lewisham
213   3   3   3   Jenkins   E T   Manchester
214   3   3   3   Jessup   Cyril W   Hull
215   3   2   0   Jobling   Edgar   Lincoln
216   3   0   0   Keel   W Ernest "Ernie"   Martock
217   3   3   1   Kelly   John "Jack"   Chorley
218   3   0   0   Kent   Frederick J J   Dorchester
219   3   1   3   Key   Harry (sic)   West Bromwich
220   3   0   3   Kirk   Arthur   Pontefract
221   3   0   1   Kittel   John "Jack" B   North Finchley
222   3   0   0   Laing   Thomas M   Newcastle
223   3   3   1   Lambert   Harry (sic) E   Blackburn
224   3   3   0   Leafe   Reginald "Reg" J   Nottingham
225   3   0   0   Levers   Jack (sic)   Chesterfield
226   3   0   0   Lewis   George H   Aberdare
227   3   0   0   Lowe   Joseph E   Ealing
228   3   1   1   Lucas   W   Barnsley
229   3   1   5   Luty   Arthur W   Leeds
230   3   5   3   Maddison   Richard H   York
231   3   3   4   May   Frederick "Fred"   Reading
232   3   1   2   May   Harold    Huddersfield
233   3   2   2   McCann   Joseph "Joe"   Preston
234   3   6   0   Meade   Royston H F   Devizes
235   3   2   2   Medlicott   Edward "Eddie" S S   Chester
236   3   2   0   Mellor   Reginald   Doncaster
237   3   1   0   Moon    Stanley   Manchester
238   3   3   1   Morgan   E T   Manchester
239   3   1   0   Muller   Walter J A   West Dulwich S.E.21
240   3   5   1   Murdoch   William D   Manchester
241   3   1   3   Nisbet   John W   Derby
242   3   1   5   Oliver   Harry (sic) "Henry" C   Luton
243   3   0   4   O'Reilly   James R   Barnsley
244   3   0   1   Overton   F Leslie "Les"   Derby
245   3   2   5   Palfrey   Victor "Vic"   Ipswich
246   3   1   0   Parker   R   Middlesbrough
247   3   1   5   Pethybridge   Harold J   Birkenhead
248   3   0   0   Phillips   Percy (sic) M   Swansea
249   3   3   1   Plant   Thomas G   Chester
250   3   1   3   Platt   Joseph   Nantwich
251   3   0   2   Price   John "Jack" E   Birmingham
252   3   0   0   Radcliffe   Sidney   Newcastle
253   3   0   2   Rae   Victor W   West Ealing W.13
254   3   2   3   Ramsden   Francis S L   Stoke
255   3   1   1   Reynolds   George   Pontefract
256   3   1   4   Reynolds   Harry (sic) G   Great Yarmouth
257   3   4   2   Richards   John W   Cheadle
258   3   2   2   Richardson   Samuel   Preston
259   3   0   1   Riley   William   Birmingham
260   3   0   0   Roberts   Harry (sic) A   Bristol
261   3   0   0   Robinson   John S   Rickmansworth
262   3   1   2   Robinson   Thomas   Burnley
263   3   1   2   Robson   Ralph W   Shepperton
264   3   0   3   Rogerson   Robert A   Altrincham
265   3   0   4   Rothwell   Walter   Manchester
266   3   1   4   Russell   Joseph "Jim" J   Leeds
267   3   3   1   Sarjeant   Donald "Don" G   Reading
268   3   1   1   Schofield   Sutcliffe   Accrington
269   3   0   1   Searle   Francis E   Harrow
270   3   0   2   Sedgwick   P G   Sheffield
271   3   2   3   Senior   Edward A   Manchester
272   3   1   2   Seymour   Thomas "Tom"   Wakefield
273   3   5   4   Shakespeare   Arnold N   Blackpool
274   3   2   1   Sherlock   John "Jack"   Sheffield
275   3   0   1   Siddons   Herbert   Nottingham
276   3   2   2   Silvester   Harold J   Wolverhampton
277   3   0   0   Simmons   Joseph H   Bristol
278   3   0   2   Smith   Arthur W   Bristol
279   3   2   3   Smith   Charles   Huddersfield
280   3   0   2   Smith   Clement N T   Washington
281   3   0   1   Smith   Howard R   Sheffield
282   3   0   0   Smith   Robert W   Newcastle
283   3   0   3   Smith   Thomas "Tom"   Bolton
284   3   2   0   South   John   Darlington
285   3   2   1   Spencer   John   Stockport
286   3   2   1   Stephenson   Robert R   North Shields
287   3   0   0   Stevenson   George W   Taunton
288   3   0   0   Stinson   Thomas   Burnley
289   3   0   2   Stones   Wilfrid (sic) "Wilf" D   Doncaster
290   3   0   3   Sykes   Arnold   Blackburn
291   3   4   4   Tarratt   Ralph E   Horsham
292   3   0   0   Taylor   Herbert E K   Birmingham
293   3   0   2   Taylor   Norman C   Leeds
294   3   0   1   Temple   Gilbert   Goole
295   3   0   0   Terrey   Thomas G   Ealing
296   3   3   3   Thirlwall   Bertram "Bert"   Stoke
297   3   1   4   Thomas   Ernest R F   Reading
298   3   0   0   Thomas   Reginald R   Chepstow
299   3   1   4   Thomason   James E   Chester
300   3   0   2   Thompson   Leslie R   West Bromwich
301   3   3   2   Thurman   J Frederick "Fred"   Preston
302   3   0   4   Tolley   Alfred H   Worcester
303   3   0   0   Topliss   John "Jack" W   Grimsby
304   3   1   1   Trenholm   Herbert   Stockton
305   3   2   0   Turner   Robert   Halifax
306   3   1   2   Varney   E Reginald "Reg"   Derby
307   3   0   0   Vickery   E Stanley "Stan"   Bristol
308   3   1   1   Walker   Charles P   Sheffield
309   3   0   1   Warburton   Charles H   Scunthorpe
310   3   0   1   Ward   Albert A T   Bristol
311   3   0   0   Ward   Walter G   Ilford
312   3   0   3   Watkin   Cyril H   Chester
313   3   0   2   Watkins   George W   Ilford
314   3   1   1   Way   Norman G   Bournemouth
315   3   0   0   Webb   Lewis G N   Bath
316   3   1   2   Weller   John "Jack" O   Sevenoaks
317   3   3   0   White   Cyril H   Marlow
318   3   1   3   White   Frank I   Bolton
319   3   0   0   White   Thomas H   Tredegar
320   3   0   0   Wilkinson   James H   Hull
321   3   5   2   Williams   Albert "Bert" C   Brighton
322   3   0   3   Williams   Frederick "Fred" C D   Plymouth
323   3   0   1   Wood   Robert "Bobby"   Sunderland
324   3   1   1   Wright   F   Stockport
325   3   1   2   Wright   Horace F   Gloucester
326   3   1   2   Yates   William C   Chorley
327   3   0   1   Yeadon   Jack (sic)   Bradford
            Also appeared      
328   4   1   1   Burton   Joseph   Mansfield 45-6 & 47-8
329   4   1   1   Irving   J H   Wellington 45-6 & 47-8
330   4   0   5   Ling   William "Bill"   Cambridge 47-8
331   4   3   3   Morrell   Herbert   Sale 45-6 & 47-8
332   4   1   0   Newman   Eric G   Salisbury 48-9
333   4   3   3   Puxley   Lionel W   Leigh on Sea 45-6
334   4   0   1   Thorneycroft   G E   ???











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Trivia & Humour / Birds II
« on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 11:32 »
01   Burglar’s activity
02   Brag
03   Scottish music maker on the beach
04   Celestial heather
05   Bend the lamb's mother
06   Scarlet leg
07   Twelfth of a foot harvest leftover
08   17th Century architect
09   Put the lid on a Scottish party
10   Tell the cat to stop sleeping
11   Go around selling things 
12   Rock conversation
13   Friendly dog 
14   Noisy bees will do this
15   What tennis players do
16   Scarlet beginning
17   Insect with Tommy Cooper’s hat 
18   Sailor's hate this
19   Caught a peace bringer
20   Cricket bat wobbly singing 
21   After me but before Kay
22   Secures Sunday roast
23   Airborne shenanigans
24   Angry invoice
25   Meadow is just 

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Trivia & Humour / Deserts and Desserts
« on: Sun 19 Dec 2021 18:11 »
01. Say ready, say steady (4)
02. Part of a touching obituary (4)
03. Goat beside the Nile (6)
04. Gain from electronic parts (12)
05. Excellent sailor (5, 4)
06. Tanned Liz? (5, 5)
07. Mousetrap bun? (10)
08. Discard it, or go on a spree (6)
09. O, a slim mixture (6)
10. I am no long turning (9)
11. Round ball, busy (8)
12. Where the potato pest comes from? (8)
13. Must air turns fashionable (8)
14. Refreshes during meals or between courses (6)
15. Mice race in confusion (3, 5)
16. Time to ransack for triviality (6)
17. A skin outbreak around alpha? (6)
18. A one humped camel (7)
19. Boycott the light yellowish brown colour (5, 4)
20. Disorder near Windsor (4, 4)
21. Noticed Richard (7, 4)
22. Rift due west - confusion (6, 5)
23. Coat around a maths symbol (7)
24. A raincoat comes back after a baby's thanks (7)
25. Van der Post's Lost World (8)
26. Wrongdoing first class (5)
27. Sounds like Christmas bird for Mr. Holloway (9)
28. A daft slur I mixed (5, 5)
29. Mrs. Leadbetter (5)
30. White food?, Oui (10)
31. Sounds like it's not a forward animal in an immature state (7)
32. Money idiot (8)
33. "Close up these ...... leaves" (6)
34. Ryan is about! (6)
35. A slapstick pie (7)
36. Six hundred rode here (5, 6)
37. Move takes in German yes! (6)
38. Oriental (7)
39. Perfect order but messy bed (5, 3)
40. Arrive and take in hashish? (7)
41. A shilling in a rodent? (6)
42. General Gordon?, Charles Darwin?, Earl of Shaftesbury? (5, 9)
43. Weep, confused in mother's ruin (6)
44. In honour of Anna? (7)
45. Party disciplinarian (4)
46. Soft relics, and count the stones! (6)
47. Excellent Alexander (5, 5)
48. Ride to this cross but put on too much make-up (7, 5)
49. Pea snack muddled on a Tuesday (8)
50. Whig turns back his refusal (6)

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I Spy Old Refs! / Division 1 Appointments 1947-48 - Analysis
« on: Wed 01 Dec 2021 11:22 »
Now that the research (on another thread) has gone as far as it can for now
I have had a look at the appointments

431 of the 462 referees have been found

That is 231 pairs of matches (A v B and B v A)

7 pairs are missing the referee for both matches
17 pairs are missing one or the other match
207 pairs are complete

Of those 207
186 (90%) had the same referee for both matches
Of the 21 that did not, 14 were late season (last 6 weeks) changes

Of the 431 matches found
319 (74%) were full referees
112 (26%) were supplementary

43 of the 45 full referees officiated in Division 1
33 of the 50 supplementaries did so

It appears that those living in the South did far fewer Division 1 matches


1   1   8   Appleyard   George C   Rotherham
2   1   12   Baker   Arthur   Crewe
3   1   8   Baker   Ernest W   Manchester
4   1   11   Barrick   C John "Jack"   Northampton
5   1   12   Berry   Herbert   Huddersfield
6   1   7   Blackhall   George S   Wednesbury
7   1   6   Boardman   Stanley   Hale
8   1   4   Brown   Lawrence   Barnes
9   1   3   Clark   George   Lewisham
10   1   4   Daly   William  L F   Orpington
11   1   4   Dixon   William H   Lincoln
12   1   6   Duerden   Robert    Lancaster
13   1   11   Ellis   Arthur E   Halifax
14   1   11   Evans   William "Bill" H E   Liverpool
15   1   10   Fletcher   Clifford   Northwich
16   1   3   Gibbs   Lionel E   Reading
17   1   5   Green   Frederick "Fred" C   Wolverhampton
18   1   4   Greenwood   Reginald "Reg" C   Norwood S.E.19
19   1   8   Hartles   Harry (sic)   Runcorn
20   1   5   Hartley   Harold "Harry"   Bolton
21   1   8   Iliffe   George L   Leicester
22   1   6   Law   Samuel E   West Bromwich
23   1   3   Lowe   Frederick "Fred" J   Bath
24   1   8   Martin   William "Bill"   Leeds
25   1   4   Meadows   Arthur   Redcar
26   1   11   Milner   Frederick "Fred" S   Wolverhampton
27   1   6   Moore   Harold W   York
28   1   7   Mortimer   Reginald "Reg" A   Huddersfield
29   1   8   Nixon   William  B   Manchester
30   1   10   Parker   John "Jack" H   Macclesfield
31   1   4   Pearce   Henry "Harry"   Luton
32   1   10   Plinston   Edward "Ted"   Warrington
33   1   8   Roberts   Stanley "Stan" N   Liverpool
34   1   10   Salmon   George   Stoke
35   1   12   Smith   Tom (sic) "Thomas"   Atherstone
36   1   8   Snape   Percy (sic)   Manchester
37   1   4   Stevens   Percy (sic)   Luton
38   1   0   Strainge   William "Bill" T   Bristol
39   1   13   Sunderland   Godfrey   Barnsley
40   1   12   Tedds   George   Bestwood
41   1   0   Wakley   Clifford J   Somerton
42   1   4   Williams   Henry "Harry" C   Fulham S.W.6
43   1   9   Williams   James   Bolton
44   1   3   Wiltshire   John "Jim" (sic) M   Sherborne
45   1   9   Wright   Harold T   Macclesfield
      319   FULL REFS TOTAL
      
46   2   0   Annette    Percy (sic) C   Basingstoke
47   2   5   Beacock   Harry (sic)   Scunthorpe
48   2   2   Beckley   William G   Evesham
49   2   2   Blythe   Arthur H   Edmonton N.18
50   2   3   Briggs   Joseph   Cheadle
51   2   6   Bryan   Harry  (sic)   Tipton
52   2   2   Burgess   Roland J   Reading
53   2   3   Chadwick   Frederick "Fred" W   Leicester
54   2   1   Chatfield   Sidney   Stoke
55   2   0   Crook   Eric V   Abingdon
56   2   0   Dellow   William "Bill" E   Croydon
57   2   3   Denham   Albert C   Preston
58   2   0   Devine   Arthur W   Hammersmith
59   2   0   Edwards   William "Bill" J   Yeovil
60   2   3   Flanagan   B Jack (sic)   Sheffield
61   2   3   Francis   Albert A E   Kirkby in Ashfield
62   2   0   Griffiths   Benjamin "Sandy" M   Newport
63   2   0   Haines   Reginald G   Swindon
64   2   2   Hall   Albert "Curly" C   Chester
65   2   2   Hauxwell   H Francis "Frank"   West Wickham
66   2   0   Hay   Roderick R   Romford 
67   2   3   Holt   Harry (sic)   Rochdale
68   2   0   Isom   Stanley J   Colchester
69   2   4   Jackson   Harry (sic)   Leeds
70   2   0   Jacobs   Cecil P   Bath
71   2   0   Key   Harry (sic)   West Bromwich
72   2   2   Leafe   Reginald "Reg" J   Nottingham
73   2   4   McCarthy   Samuel "Sam" R   Wrexham
74   2   0   Nisbet   John W   Derby
75   2   4   Pikett   Thomas "Tom" G   Lincoln
76   2   0   Porter   Richard N   Darlington
77   2   6   Prescott   Walter   Southport
78   2   4   Rae   Victor W   West Ealing W.13
79   2   0   Rand   Thomas W   Peterlee
80   2   6   Russell   J James "Jim"   Leeds
81   2   4   Schofield   David   Oldham
82   2   3   Seymour   Thomas "Tom"   Wakefield
83   2   2   South   John   Darlington
84   2   0   Taylor   Norman C   Trowbridge
85   2   4   Thurman   J Frederick "Fred"   Preston
86   2   2   Tolley   Alfred H   Worcester
87   2   5   Tregellas   John   Birmingham
88   2   0   Trenholm   Herbert   Stockton
89   2   7   Varney   E Reginald "Reg"   Derby
90   2   6   Walton   Frederick "Fred"   Goole
91   2   2   Ward   James   Altrincham
92   2   2   Weller   John "Jack" O   Sevenoaks
93   2   0   Williams   Albert "Bert" C   Brighton
94   2   3   Womersley   Charles P   Stockport
95   2   2   Wood   William E   Bedford
      112   SUPP REFS TOTAL
      
      431   TOTAL REFS
      
      31   REFS MISSING      





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Obituary in Scottish Football Historian received today

John W. Paterson, one of Scotland's leading referees in the 1960s and 1970s died on 24th August 2021, aged 92

Promoted to Class 1 in 1961-62 while living in Lithlingow (20 miles W of Edinburgh) he moved to Bothwell (9 miles ESE of Glasgow) the following year

The statutory retirement age forced him to stop at the end of 1977-78

He was on the FIFA list of elite referees for 13 years and the UEFA list for 12, during which he took charge of semi-finals in the European and UEFA cups

He officiated at the 1976 Montreal Olympics and took charge of the Celtic v Dundee United Scottish Cup Final in 1974

When the Glasgow F.A. organised a match against the Football League at Hampden to celebrate the Queen's Silver Jubilee in 1977, John won the ballot of the local referee's association members. One of his linesmen was Brian McGinlay who recalled "a lovely man and an absolute gentleman"




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Can anyone help with any of these?

1937   Line   A. Billington (Blackpool)
1986   Line   A. Gallagher (Dublin)
1957   Line   A. McKenzie (Coatbridge)
1905   Line   A. Robertson (Belfast)
1931   Line   A. Ure (Blackpool)
1963   Line   A. Walker (Belfast)
1927   Ref   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1928   Ref   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1936   Line   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1971   Line   A.M. McEwan (Glasgow)
1976   Line   A.M. McEwan (Glasgow)
1967   Line   A.S. McNair (Glasgow)
1898   Line   Andrews (Dundee)
1907   Line   Brock (Belfast)
1899   Line   C. McShane (Belfast)
1971   Line   C. O'Leary (Dublin)
1995   Line   C. Prentice (N.Ireland)
1908   Line   C. Smith (Kilmarnock)
1960   Line   D. Barnes (Glasgow)
1943   Line   D. Blair (Dublin)
1969   Line   D. Henderson (Wishaw)
1953   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1955   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1960   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1961   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1935   Line   D. McAllister (Belfast)
1924   Line   D. McMeekin (Newry)
1949   Line   D. Stevenson (Glasgow)
1976   Line   D.A. Grant (Edinburgh)
1954   Line   D.H. Graham (Lisburn)
1935   Line   D.J. McAllister (Belfast)
1901   Line   D.R. Montgomery (Glasgow)
1963   Line   D.W. Copp (Hemel Hempstead, Herts)
1903   Line   Dawson (Belfast)
1949   Ref   E. Boland (Dublin)
1951   Line   E. Boland (Dublin)
1953   Line   E. Boland (Dublin)
1958   Line   E. Cleary (Limerick)
1962   Line   E. Harkin (Glasgow)
1949   Line   E. Mason
1949   Line   E. Whelan (Dublin)
1949   Line   F.S. Crossley (Motherwell)
1956   Line   G. Boland (Dublin)
1956   Line   G. O'Leary (Dublin)
1957   Line   G. Pickard (Dublin)
1969   Line   G.D. McIntyre (Glasgow)
1950   Ref   G.H. Moore (Belfast)
1919   Ref   G.W. Hamilton (Motherwell)
1958   Ref   H. Brown (Belfast)
1961   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1961   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1962   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1966   Line   H. Dempsey (Croy)
1948   Ref   H. Malone (Dublin)
1951   Line   H. Malone (Dublin)
1911   Line   H. McAlinden (Belfast)
1954   Line   H. Taylor (Salford, Manchester)
1910   Line   H. Thompson (Southern League)
1958   Line   H. Wallace (Belfast)
1965   Line   H.B. McNicol (Clydebank)
1908   Line   H.McCloy (Belfast)
1956   Line   I. Larkin (Dublin)
1956   Line   J. Bruce (Newcastle)
1929   Line   J. Cummings (Belfast)
1950   Line   J. Davidson (Belfast)
1952   Ref   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1953   Line   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1953   Ref   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1961   Line   J. Dearie (East Kilbride)
1943   Line   J. Ferguson (Belfast)
1949   Line   J. Garnett (Dublin)
1962   Line   J. Hall (Crewe)
1931   Ref   J. Hudson (Glasgow)
1897   Line   J. Johnson (Belfast)
1956   Ref   J. Larkin (Dublin)
1899   Line   J. McFarlane (Glasgow)
1950   Line   J. McGrath (Waterford)
1900   Line   J. McInerney (Belfast)
1938   Line   J. McKeown (Belfast)
1957   Line   J. McNiven (Stonehouse)
1954   Line   J. Mullen (Dublin)
1957   Line   J. O'Donnell (Limerick)
1958   Line   J. O'Donnell (Limerick)
1951   Line   J. Pickering (Motherwell)
1957   Ref   J. Russell (Belfast)
1961   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1964   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1964   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1955   Line   J. Rutherford (Glasgow)
1956   Line   J. Scully (Dublin)
1959   Line   J. Scully (Dublin)
1956   Line   J. Somers (Dublin)
1962   Ref   J. Stewart (Paisley)
1938   Line   J. Ward (Altrincham)
1953   Line   J.A. Paterson (Glasgow)
1951   Line   J.B. Johnstone (East Kilbride)
1958   Line   J.C. Ferguson (Barnton)
1962   Line   J.C. Mitchell (Paisley)
1963   Line   J.C. Mitchell (Paisley)
1961   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1969   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1969   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1965   Line   J.H. Hayes (Kikintilloch)
1925   Line   J.H. Walsh (Portadown)
1930   Line   J.J. Conroy (Dublin)
1913   Line   J.J. Doyle (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.L. Brown (Glasgow)
1962   Line   J.R. Grant (Glasgow)
1963   Line   J.R. Grant (Glasgow)
1951   Ref   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
1951   Ref   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
1958   Line   J.S. Watson (Glasgow)
1911   Line   J.T. Gibb (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.W. Fulton (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.W. Fulton (Belfast)
1910   Line   J.W. Harris (Football League)
1958   Line   J.W. Paterson (Grangemouth)
1950   Line   Jackson (Dundalk)
1953   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Line   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1955   Line   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1955   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Line   M. Graham (Paisley)
1995   Line   M. Ross (N.Ireland)
1949   Ref   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1951   Ref   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1953   Line   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1898   Line   Melville (Belfast)
1986   Line   P. Cahill (Dublin)
1944   Line   P. Finnegan (Dublin)
1967   Ref   P. Kiely (Limerick)
1949   Line   P. O'Keane (Wishaw)
1951   Line   P. O'Keane (Wishaw)
1970   Line   P.J. McGuire (Glasgow)
1961   Line   R. Gordon (Glasgow)
1961   Line   R. Gordon (Glasgow)
1929   Line   R. Innes (Glasgow)
1894   Ref   R. Irvine (Belfast)
1894   Ref   R. Irvine (Belfast)
1930   Line   R. Morrison (Falkirk)
1951   Line   R. Taylor (Bearsden)
1954   Line   R. Taylor (Bearsden)
1971   Line   R.C. Johnston (Strathaven)
1948   Ref   R.G. "Bert" Benzie (Irvine)
1956   Line   R.G. Arbuthnot (Belfast)
1959   Line   R.G. Arbuthnot (Belfast)
1950   Ref   R.J. Fehily (Cork)
1953   Line   R.J. Quail (Belfast)
1951   Line   R.S.Major McDermott (Army)
1959   Line   R.V. Buckley (Cork)
1949   Line   R.W. Jeffrey  (Glasgow)
1937   Line   S. Hall (Portadown)
1947   Line   S. McKitttrick (Belfast)
1909   Line   S. Mortimer (Drumcondra)
1898   Line   Sgt. J. Haywood (Belfast)
1913   Ref   Sgt. Major Vick (Glasgow)
1962   Line   T . Kellock (Glasgow)
1961   Line   T .R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1944   Line   T. Butler (Dublin)
1946   Ref   T. Butler (Dublin)
1941   Ref   T. Dwyer (Dublin)
1953   Line   T. Mullen (Dublin)
1954   Line   T. Mullen (Dublin)
1934   Line   T. Pendleton (Belfast)
1936   Line   T. Pentland (Belfast)
1923   Line   T. Rodgers (Prescot, Lancashire)
1952   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1954   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1954   Ref   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1955   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1967   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glagsow)
1957   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1958   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1959   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1965   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1970   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1978   Line   T.T. Gilbert (East Kilbride)
1943   Ref   W. Behan (Dublin)
1944   Ref   W. Behan (Dublin)
1957   Line   W. Blackwell (Glasgow)
1933   Line   W. Booth (Preston)
1960   Line   W. Dunlop (Ballymoney)
1957   Ref   W. Harvie (Dalry)
1948   Ref   W. Keane (Limerick)
1927   Line   W. Lowes (Whitley Bay)
1961   Line   W. Morrison (Clydebank)
1949   Line   W. O'Neill
1893   Line   W. Potter (Belfast)
1965   Line   W. Toward (Glasgow)
1956   Line   W. Truelock (Dublin)
1955   Ref   W. Waldron (Dublin)
1953   Line   W. Williams (Belfast)
1958   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1959   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1966   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1973   Line   W.H. Quinn (Stewarton)
1931   Line   W.R. Boyd (Belfast)
1961   Line   W.S. Black (Glasgow)
1955   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1956   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1957   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)

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Trivia & Humour / Close Season Quiz IV
« on: Thu 29 Jul 2021 09:20 »
All answers are Q-Z and all started before 1970

01   Aggressive actor Richard
02   Almost a rat
03   Almost in Silence of the Lambs
04   Almost ordained
05   Blew too soon
06   Bunnies can & will go to France
07   Cliff Richard moonlighting in Leeds
08   Couple of churchmen
09   Cumberbatch
10   Durham not South Africa
11   Durham Prime Minister
12   Ealing Sunbeam
13   Easily upset in Sheffield
14   Edward VIII's downfall
15   Expensive roe
16   Extra vision
17   Featured in Hogwarts
18   Fred Astaire's partner
19   Freelance journalist
20   Friar
21   From a Durham family not a Swiss one
22   Half of the Welsh patron saint
23   Ironically he died in Salisbury
24   Keeps the coal engine going
25   Leaping in Staffordshire
26   Lumberjack
27   Mighty Middlesbrough
28   Must have sunk to do this
29   Oddfellow
30   On his own
31   Only half a bikini
32   Only the one
33   Phlegm
34   Remove him from York
35   Reverse Worksop man for Reds 'keeper
36   Rings his bell
37   Romeo was one
38   Severe pruner
39   Simple
40   Sounds like a book carrier
41   Sounds like he came from a North Devon resort
42   Sounds like Paula should have come from here
43   Swordsman from Bradford
44   Take him from a rainbow
45   Twins from Durham and Wales
46   Unfortunate anagram
47   Weary stag
48   Won the F.A. Cup as a player and as a team
49   World champion on both two and four wheels
50   World Cup referee from Gloucester

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I Spy Old Refs! / Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« on: Wed 28 Jul 2021 18:28 »
There was an Association of Football Statisticians booklet on these matches in the 1980s/1990s

I am not sure if it contained referee details but if someone has a copy could they extract these please?

There is an online link which says it is free but you have to provide your credit card details
including the three numbers on the back, so I am not going down that road

These are those I cannot find on the newspaper archive

The second part is those found but needing first names

1   27   1   1894   Scottish League   v   Irish League   
2   27   2   1904   Scottish League   v   Irish League   
3   2   10   1911   Scottish League   v   Southern League   
4   16   10   1911   Football League   v   Irish League   
5   30   9   1912   Football League   v   Southern League   
6   23   10   1912   Irish League   v   Football League   
7   2   3   1940   Football League   v   British XI   
8   18   3   1940   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
9   22   3   1940   Football League   v   British XI   
10   17   3   1941   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
11   14   4   1941   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
12   17   3   1942   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
13   6   4   1942   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
14   2   5   1942   Football League   v   Western Command   
15   26   4   1943   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
16   10   4   1944   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
17   17   3   1945   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
18   2   4   1945   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
19   18   3   1946   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
20   22   4   1946   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
21   17   3   1947   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
22   7   4   1947   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
23   30   4   1947   League of Ireland   v   Football League   
24   14   1   1948   Scottish League   v   Irish League   
25   17   3   1948   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
26   29   3   1948   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
27   17   3   1949   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
28   18   4   1949   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
29   19   5   1951   Welsh League   v   Irish League   
30   14   4   1952   Irish League   v   Western Command   
31   5   5   1953   Denmark XI   v   Football League   
32   19   4   1954   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
33   11   10   1955   Denmark    v   Scottish League   
34   17   3   1958   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
35   12   4   1960   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
36   17   3   1961   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
37   17   3   1962   League of Ireland   v   Italian Semi-Pro    
38   14   11   1962   Italian League   v   Scottish League   
39   18   3   1963   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
40   4   5   1963   Italian Semi-Pro    v   Irish League   
41   2   10   1963   League of Ireland   v   Football League   
42   15   4   1964   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
43   26   4   1978   Italy "B"   v   Scottish League   
44   17   5   1989   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
45   7   3   1995   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
46   1   11   2000   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
                     
1   10   2   1894   Irish League   v   Football League   R. Irvine (Belfast)
2   21   4   1894   Football League   v   Scottish League   R. Irvine (Belfast)
3   13   10   1913   Scottish League   v   Southern League   Sgt . Major Vick (Glasgow)
4   5   4   1919   Scottish League   v   Football League   G.W. Hamilton (Motherwell)
5   21   9   1927   Football League   v   Irish League   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
6   22   9   1928   Irish League   v   Football League   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
7   7   11   1931   Scottish League   v   Football League   J. Hudson (Glasgow)
8   17   3   1943   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W. Behan (Dublin)
9   17   3   1944   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W. Behan (Dublin)
10   30   4   1947   Irish League   v   Scottish League   N. Boal (Newtonards)
11   22   10   1947   Irish League   v   Football League   N. Boal (Newtonards)
12   24   4   1948   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   H. Malone (Dublin)
13   29   9   1948   Scottish League   v   League of Ireland   R.G. "Bert" Benzie (Irvine)
14   4   5   1949   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
15   19   10   1949   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   E. Boland (Dublin)
16   17   3   1950   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   R.J. Fehily (Cork)
17   27   9   1950   Irish League   v   Scottish League   G.H. Moore (Belfast)
18   26   3   1951   Irish League   v   Western Command   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
19   4   4   1951   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
20   5   9   1951   Irish League   v   Welsh League   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
21   17   3   1953   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
22   25   11   1953   Irish League   v   Western Command   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
23   17   3   1954   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
24   22   9   1954   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Ryan (Dublin)
25   17   3   1955   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
26   21   9   1955   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   W. Waldron (Dublin)
27   12   2   1956   League of Ireland   v   Hesse League   J. Larkin (Dublin)
28   2   4   1956   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   R. Reid (Belfast)
29   25   4   1956   Irish League   v   Football League   R. Reid (Belfast)
30   5   9   1956   Irish League   v   Scottish League   R. Reid (Belfast)
31   19   9   1956   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Crawley (Dundalk)
32   21   11   1956   Irish League   v   Western Command   R. Reid (Belfast)
33   5   12   1956   Irish League   v   Irish XI   R. Reid (Belfast)
34   9   10   1957   Scottish League   v   Irish League   W. Harvie (Dalry)
35   13   11   1957   Irish League   v   Western Command   J. Russell (Belfast)
36   29   10   1958   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   H. Brown (Belfast)
37   17   3   1959   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Barton (Dublin)
38   2   9   1959   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   K. Redmond (Dublin)
39   14   9   1960   League of Ireland   v   Football League   J.G. Igoe (Dublin)
40   4   10   1961   Scottish League   v   Irish League   W. Elliott (Barrhead)
41   28   11   1962   Scottish League   v   League of Ireland   J. Stewart (Paisley)
42   25   10   1967   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   P. Kiely (Limerick)
43   22   9   1971   League of Ireland   v   Football League   D. Barrett (Cork)








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