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Some changes to the appointments.

A Madley replaces Taylor on Sheffield United v Burnley, with Robinson replacing Madley as VAR.

Taylor replaces Kavanaugh for Everton v Nottingham Forest, with Stroud replacing Taylor as 4th official.

I think that’s all!

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The officials for this weekends El Clásico between Real Madrid and Barcelona have been announced:

Referee: César Soto Grado
Assistant referees: Pau Cebrián Devis & Iñigo Prieto López de Ceraín
VAR: José Maria Sánchez Martinez

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Non Footy Appointments / Re: ICC Elite Panel 2024-25
« on: Mon 08 Apr 2024 17:26 »
With regards to Illingworth, I’m sure the rule was that you had to leave the panel before turning 61 (I remember reading something along those lines when Bruce Oxenford retired). With Illingworth turning 61 in August, I wondered if he might leave after the World T20 and be replaced immediately, similar to Oxenford replacing Taufel in 2012?

Ian Gould retired when he was 61, he turned 62 the month after he retired. Steve Davis retired when he was 62. I don’t think that there’s a set age for retirement, but I reckon it is more than likely  Illingworth will retire from the elite panel in the next year or so.

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Non Footy Appointments / Re: ICC Elite Panel 2024-25
« on: Wed 03 Apr 2024 11:30 »
I assume this means Illingworth will stay on the panel until next year. Will be interesting to see who is appointed to the World T 20 in June, usually gives a good indication who’s in the frame to be promoted to the elite panel.

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Select Group 2 / Re: Fri 8th - Tue 12th MAR 2024
« on: Wed 13 Mar 2024 16:38 »
Also believe it was Sam Lewis running the line at St Andrew’s last night rather than James Wilson.

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General Discussion / Re: Sunny Singh Gill
« on: Wed 06 Mar 2024 09:43 »
I have no view on Mr Gill as I have not seen him ref. With the age profile of SG1 only Graham Scott seems close to retirement and Barrott has in effect replaced him. Six others (including Gill) have had trial games, so unless other established refs go or the pool expanded, there are bound to be some disappointments. How these are managed is paramount to ensure confidence is not knocked. The promotion of Bond in particular appears odd from last year, given the profusion of promotions this year. I am clearly missing something.



Given that every Premier League match requires three referees (on-field, 4thers and VAR) and three ARs (2 x on-field and an AVAR) an expansion of the panel is not such a bad idea.  It might prevent burn-out and will reduce the instances of referees high-tailing it from a game on Saturday to another on Sunday.  We would not ask a player to do that, neither should a match official.

Agree we wouldn't ask a player to play or a referee to be on-field on 2 consecutive days, however I see no problem with say an on field referee on a Saturday game in London or the South, then being a VAR on a Sunday , or vice versa. I don't think that is excessive at all to ask of full time working employees.

The Premier League is an outlier in Europe though in terms of referees doing on field and VAR on the same weekend. In most major European leagues, referee’s do one or the other but not both.

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Sad to see Erasmus depart the international scene, he’s been a top umpire for a number years. I wonder if we’ll see any others retire from the elite panel?

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First derby for Madley in Manchester, and Barrott with another top flight tv offering.

Interesting that Sam Allison has been designated what was a missing SG1 appointment with SG1 assistants in the M4 derby.

Oliver and Coote with the other tv games.  Klopp with a chance to see Tierney once again 😳

I wonder if Craig Taylor is in for Hatzidakis now as a semi permanent replacement given he is now in the middle more.

Craig Taylor is also down to officiate the championship game on Saturday between Birmingham and Southampton.

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New Zealand v Australia

T20 Series

Umpires: Chris Brown, Wayne Knights & Shaun Haig (All New Zealand)
Match Referee: Ranjan Madugalle (Sri Lanka)

Test Series

1st Test, Wellington
Umpires: Michael Gough (England) & Marais Erasmus (South Africa)
TV Umpire: Nitin Menon (India)

2nd Test, Christchurch
Umpires: Marais Erasmus (South Africa) & Nitin Menon (India)
TV Umpire: Michael Gough (England)

Match referee for series: Ranjan Madugalle (Sri Lanka)

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There are a few ‘low profile’ series coming up, Afghanistan v Ireland, Bangladesh v Sri Lanka & Bangladesh v Zimbabwe. They would be good series to test some other umpires.

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Surely when the ICC review the elite panel they have to drop Joel Wilson….he seems to have almost every decision he makes overturned!

I think 4 of his decisions overturned in this test match already and day 3 hasn’t been completed yet!

I think what may save Wilson is the retirement of others in the next few years, Illingworth, Erasmus and Tucker.

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Cup Appointments / Re: EFL Cup [Carabao Cup] - 2023/2024
« on: Wed 14 Feb 2024 16:57 »
Quite an achievement for Tim Robinson to be 4O in his first year in SG1!

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Some other cricket…

Sri Lanka v Afghanistan

Only Test, Colombo
Umpires: Chris Brown (NZ) & Michael Gough (England)
TV Umpire: Alex Wharf (England)
Match Referee: Chris Broad (England)

The English officials will also be overseeing the subsequent ODI series along with SL officials.

New Zealand v South Africa

1st Test, Mount Manganui
Umpires: Richard Kettleborough (England) & Ahsan Raza (Pakistan)
TV Umpire: Richard Illingworth (England)

2nd Test, Hamilton
Umpires: Richard Illingworth (England) & Ahsan Raza (Pakistan)
TV Umpire: Richard Kettleborough (England)

Match Referee for series: Javagal Srinath (India)

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I agree 5/6 are the best officials available but would have preferred Raza to Wilson. No great surprises - returns for Dharmasena and Gaffaney after the World Cup, all highly experienced umpires utilised.

On a separate note, if officials have to leave before they turn 61 (which I believe is the precedent if not a rule - happy to be corrected on this), then Erasmus, Illingworth and Tucker will be leaving fairly soon. Did wonder if they might have given experience of this intense kind of series to one of the lesser experienced umps.

I believe there are political issues preventing Pakistani umpires officiating in India outside of ICC events. I know Raza had issues getting his visa before last years over 50 World Cup. Aleem Dar also didn’t umpire in India after the 2016 T20 World Cup.

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India v England Test Series

1st Test, Hyderabad
Umpires: Paul Reiffel (Australia) & Chris Gaffaney (New Zealand)
TV Umpire: Marais Erasmus (South Africa)
Match Referee: Richie Richardson (West Indies)

2nd Test, Visakhapatnam
Umpires: Chris Gaffaney (New Zealand) & Marais Erasmus (South Africa)
TV Umpire: Paul Reiffel (Australia)
Match Referee: Richie Richardson (West Indies)

3rd Test, Rajkot
Umpires: Kumar Dharmasena (Sri Lanka) & Joel Wilson (West Indies)
TV Umpire: Rod Tucker (Australia)
Match Referee: Jeff Crowe (New Zealand)

4th Test, Ranchi
Umpires: Rod Tucker (Australia) & Kumar Dharmasena (Sri Lanka)
TV Umpire: Joel Wilson (West Indies)
Match Referee: Jeff Crowe (New Zealand)

5th Test, Dharamsala
Umpires: Joel Wilson (West Indies) & Rod Tucker (Australia)
TV Umpire: Kumar Dharmasena (Sri Lanka)
Match Referee: Jeff Crowe (New Zealand)




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