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Quote from: Badger on Thu 11 Apr 2024 11:25

Leeds fans weren’t moaning when Bamford scored with his arm! So far as I’m concerned it’s evened itself out!

Yeah, because that evens out the 6 letters Leeds have already had from the PGMOL apologising for penalties not given and opposition red cards not given. 🙄 Regardless of the fact there were two, not just one handball/ penalty decisions missed on Tues night.

Which games do the 6 letters refer to if you don’t mind me asking? I can think of a couple of times Leeds have been hard done by this season but struggling to think of 6. Certainly not 6 that would warrant a letter of apology.

I assume the Sunderland doesn’t account for one of these 6 yet (maybe making it 7 in total)! And I’ll also assume they didn’t get a letter of apology in relation to the Bamford handball mentioned above!

Quote from: Ref95 on Wed 10 Apr 2024 08:01

Under the LOTG he could have awarded a penalty for the Gabriel ‘handball’ - but be realistic, out of everyone on this forum, not a single one of you is awarding a penalty for that in a match you are refereeing. The game does not expect a penalty there.

Excellent call on the Saka penalty appeal. Neuer clearly stops way before any contact, which is then initiated by Saka and is highly avoidable.

Don’t necessarily disagree, but isn’t the point of refereeing to enforce the laws of the game? Match perception and management aside. You don’t have to agree with the decision, you’ve just got to make it.

I see where you’re coming from, but clearly there has to be a level of common sense applied when enforcing the LOTG in order to maintain credibility and match control.

How many indirect free kicks have you seen awarded for the goalkeeper holding onto the ball for more than 6 seconds?

Whilst like I said, awarding a penalty here is defendable under the LOTG, the referee will lose match control and authority. The sensible decision here is to accept play has only started once Gabriel kicks the ball. The argument in this case won’t be that the referee has incorrectly applied law, it will simply be that the game did not restart with Raya, it restarted with Gabriel. Had he not blown his whistle prior to Raya kicking the ball, we wouldn’t be having this debate, that for me is his error.

Looked like an obvious case of SFP by Casemiro at the end, VAR didn’t seem to check for very long. Ticks all the criteria for a red card.

The second penalty is one of my biggest pet hates in the game at the minute, seems to have only crept in over the last decade.

Gordon doesn’t have possession of the ball, has no real intention to win the ball and has no possibility of getting a touch on the ball. His only intention is to put a part of his body in front of Phillips who is midway through a kick.

It cannot be a foul for me, all he does is impede the player who is in possession of the ball, hence the only decision if there is one to be made is a free kick to West Ham. If Gordon touches the ball away from Phillips and then gets taken out, it’s a foul to Newcastle, but he doesn’t.

Quote from: Ref95 on Mon 18 Mar 2024 07:08

Brilliant from Brooks who surely cements his place as the 3rd best in the English game now.

My only gripe would be Bruno not being shown a SYC, not necessarily for that foul on Macallister (although he easily could have gone for this) but for the simulation on the edge of the Liverpool box shortly afterwards. But as mentioned previously, simulations is generally ignored by all referees these days. And of course there’s the fact Bruno is allowed to get away with pretty much whatever he likes in order to avoid him being sent off.

Around that time there were 3 "non-fouls" where the crowd shouted for the opposite action but we didn't see replays on any of these as to whether they should have been fouls.

As for simulation the same could be said of Mac Allister who was rolling around "injured" after he had kicked Maguire in the stomach - presumably since he was worried that he could receive a SYC. Mac Allister could also have received a YC before the one he did get.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make with the first paragraph? The crowd thinking it was a foul certainly doesn’t mean it was a foul.

I’m glad you agree that Bruno should have seen a SYC. Personally I don’t think the Mac Allister incident was an act of simulation but you may disagree. I can’t think of the incident you’re referring to where he should have been cautioned prior to his yellow card, can you remember the minute or who the foul was against so I can try and have a look?

Brilliant from Brooks who surely cements his place as the 3rd best in the English game now.

My only gripe would be Bruno not being shown a SYC, not necessarily for that foul on Macallister (although he easily could have gone for this) but for the simulation on the edge of the Liverpool box shortly afterwards. But as mentioned previously, simulations is generally ignored by all referees these days. And of course there’s the fact Bruno is allowed to get away with pretty much whatever he likes in order to avoid him being sent off.

Much better, there was a 5 minute spell in the second half where he seemed to let everything go, including a clear foul and yellow card for a high boot to O’Hare’s nose! But otherwise very good.

Correct decision by VAR not to rule out the opening goal, no clear evidence to overturn although it took way longer than necessary.