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General Discussion / Re: Valencia v Real Madrid
« on: Sun 03 Mar 2024 15:13 »
Yeah unfortunately he has not helped himself at all there - needs to use common sense. Either blow beforehand or wait. Don't do it as someone is crossing the ball in, you're just asking for trouble.

Th whistle was blown before the cross came in
The referee looks like he is going to blow the whistle on 98:38, but then waits until 98:40 just as/very slightly after the ball is kicked.

Obviously not an error in law, but a bad judgement call IMO - either blow as soon as the ball leaves the area after the corner, or wait a couple of seconds extra.

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General Discussion / Re: P TIERNEY - Forest v Liverpool
« on: Sun 03 Mar 2024 14:48 »
Proportionally, players suffer significantly more abuse in their careers than ANY match official.
Not a chance.

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General Discussion / Re: P TIERNEY - Forest v Liverpool
« on: Sat 02 Mar 2024 23:28 »
Forest player takes a touch a split second before the whistle goes - I imagine that the referee was looking at the Liverpool player who stayed down when he blows, and hasn't seen the touch. The ball goes out of play twice between the dropped ball and the goal, and Forest regain possession after the corner only to promptly lose it again, which leads to the goal. Mountains and molehills IMO.

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General Discussion / Re: S ATTWELL - Sheff U v Brighton
« on: Sun 18 Feb 2024 16:39 »
Very bad from Attwell to not see that as a straight red tackle, the slight delay made me feel he didn’t have seen the tackle and went more with reaction.
Well done Oliver for making the process easy and telling Attwell, but again another PL referee not making a big straight red decision and going with yellow.

Surely Webb and his team should be finding this a concern ?
It's incredibly obvious from watching a replay of the incident that the referee's view is blocked by a player running across. However much either AR has seen, neither are close enough to credibly advise that it is a sending off. The only concerning thing here are your comments criticising a referee for something no reasonably-minded person could criticise him for. Do better please.

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General Discussion / Re: S ALLISON - WBA v Soton
« on: Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:28 »
Corberan sent off inside the first ten for breaching the technical area and getting the ball before it went out….

I’ve never seen that happen in a televised game before.
Derek McInnes back in September: https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12968619/derek-mcinnes-bizarrely-sees-red-after-crossing-the-touchline-to-kick-the-ball

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Not reviewable by VAR.

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While I agree in principle, the problem would be that it would lead to longer delays after every goal while they have to go back to check that the restart was 100% correct. For example: forensic examination of whether part of the ball was overhanging the corner arc when the corner was taken; was the ball moving by the tiniest amount when the free kick was taken; should the free kick have been two inches to the left and consequently did that make a difference to whether the goal would have been scored; was the thrower's foot touching the ground at the point of delivery or was it a millimetre off?

A slippery slope, I fear.

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Not reviewable by VAR.

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General Discussion / Re: C KAVANAGH - Palace v Everton (FA)
« on: Thu 04 Jan 2024 22:50 »
DCL is running into the challenge so there is force there, he lunges in, studs showing, with a straight(ish) leg, and goes entirely over the top of the ball. I think the only reason the Palace player didn't get stretchered off with tib & fib snapped in two is because he can see it coming and avoids the worst of the contact.

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General Discussion / Re: D BOND - Sheff Wed v Hull
« on: Mon 01 Jan 2024 22:43 »
The worst decision of the season to date. That’s shocking.
You're right, the player making a tackle like that has got to be one of the worst decisions anyone has made this season. It truly is a shocker.

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General Discussion / Re: D BOND - Sheff Wed v Hull
« on: Mon 01 Jan 2024 22:39 »
Oh dear, I’m not sure what Bond has seen to warrant a red card for Tyler Morton.

He clearly says twice “I’m thinking”.

Is it excessive force?

He won the ball clearly but definitely not excessive.

A poster mentioned a while back that SG1 referees are not judging SFP offences accurately, and with VAR in the background they were “unsure” what decision to give.

It’s the flip side of that in the EFL in my opinion, and they are still not judging them correctly, as Hull will feel very aggrieved tonight.
Of course in the EFL, there’s no back up from big brother.
https://twitter.com/Owls2k/status/1741882350189842523

This is what he has seen. Irrelevant that he touches the ball first, he goes over the top of it and IMO it's clear serious foul play - endangering the safety of the opponent.

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I can’t even think of any significant stoppages beyond the norm.   No time wasting at all.  How can that be 10 minutes, in what universe are we living here with this timekeeping?!

Three goals, that took over a minute each to restart.  7 subs over 5 separate windows.  Yates injured after 73 minutes, Rashford after 61 minutes, and Antony after 54 minutes, and so on.  4th officials these days keep stoppage logs and they are used to work out added time, so if 10 minutes were indicated 10 minutes will have been lost.

I watched the entire game … for my sins.  Those 3 injuries took 3 mins combined at most, the subs were quick subs, so 30 seconds each of the 5 windows.  The 3 goals maybe 45 seconds each.  So I’m coming to 8 or 9 mins at the absolute maximum.  Luton and Chelsea lunchtime had miles more time wasting and stoppages for only 6 minutes when Luton were trailing.  There is no sense to any of this timekeeping, it is a nonsense and they are making it up as they go along.  Shambles.
10 minutes "scandalous" and yet now you're saying you have 9 minutes... after originally saying 5. Sounds like someone else is making things up as they go along.

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General Discussion / Re: MADLEY MADNESS
« on: Sun 10 Dec 2023 18:57 »
Lovely gamesmanship from Van Dijk kicking the ball at a player who had little time to get away, thus resulting in the first yellow card. Klopp must be very proud of him.
Little time to move away? He stepped right in front of it 🤣

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Guidance has changed this year. That is now class as an attempt to play the ball or something similar. There was a pre season briefing on this subject and it was agreed now a yellow.
This is incorrect - the only change this season is that the LotG now include "a challenge for the ball" as well as "an attempt to play the ball" as the criteria for a DOGSO red to be downgraded to a yellow. It still states that "in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.), the offending player must be sent off"

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Who gives a damn whether it's a derby or not? The player showed dissent, while already on a yellow card, and got sent off. Too many salty fan posts in here.

Also, saying "that's a f*****g foul" is not swearing AT the referee. It is using a swear word within a sentence. Calling the referee a swearword would constitute swearing at an official. What happened today doesn't.
It's still dissent, hence the second caution.

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General Discussion / Re: J LININGTON - Birmingham v West Brom
« on: Sat 07 Oct 2023 07:45 »
https://twitter.com/i/status/1710378473976393924

From this angle (which is pretty much the referee's view of it) I can see why it was given.

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