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Red the red card.  What has the AR said to him - he was a couple of yards away?

First of all, Lascelles contact with Jimenez was a foul and a yellow card.  Unless Salisbury thought it was a clear error and should have been red he cannot recommend a review can he?  Secondly, how anyone who has watched that game can say that the Jimenez foul was not a red card is a genuine mystery to me.  He went in with force, had both feet well off the ground so was not in control and made heavy contact with the player's head.  If that is not endangering the safety of an opponent I don't know what is.

Silva has too much history with blaming defeats for his team on refereeing performances.  He has now done three times in a row against these opponents and his behaviour in the FA Cup tie at Old Trafford last season was disgraceful.  Fulham lost yesterday because of the petulance from Jimenez.  He should be berating his player not the referee.  Players make far more mistakes than referees.

I wouldn't be surprised if Silva faces an FA charge for his post match comments.  Questioning the competence of a referee and implying bias towards one team is simply wrong.  If he gets away with it Like Arteta did it will be bad for the game.

Probably not to be honest as the link doesn't work

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To suggest as the OP does that no other refs have booked players for dissent this season is stupid.  I've seen it happen on a number of occasions.  The players were told at the beginning of the season that dissent would be clamped down on.  It is not the ref's fault if a player chooses to ignore that.  It is also not Gillett's fault that some other referees may not have enforced the law correctly.  Every time I've seen Gillett he has been very good.  Sunderland fans like the OP need to look at the stupidity of their own player and not blame the ref for enforcing the laws and expecting exceptions to be made in this game.

Quote from: Jake the Peg on Sun 17 Sep 2023 17:57

Does it not make a difference that the pass from Gabriel which was intercepted actually went sideways not forwards?

This is one of the biggest myths in football laws, that the ball has to be played forward for offside to be penalised.  It absolutely does not, but unfortunately a lot of referees don't know this.

It was the correct decision.  No way that could be a deliberate play so the offside is judged from when Gabriel plays the ball.

Thanks for the explanation.

Said yellow as it happened

I hate seeing fouls like that which have nothing to do with the ball and are often referred to as "taking one for the team".  It could be argued in that instance that totally ignoring the ball, grabbing a player round the body and chucking him to the ground is violent conduct??

Quote from: nemesis on Mon 17 Apr 2023 22:43

Missing things is understandable and forgivable but seeing things that didn't happen raises questions.

To paraphrase Sir Humphrey - it is characteristic of every incident occurring on the field of play that every individual in attendance has a vivid recollection of them, and that every individual's recollection of them differs violently from every other individual's recollection.

It is an inexorable flaw of being human that information received by the senses can become distorted when the brain attempts to discern or recollect said information. I would call it unseemly to imply anything other than human error as being the cause of the mistake here, as you appear to be doing.

Sorry I wasn’t implying anything other than human error. I don’t believe referees are bent or biased (other than in favour of the “top six”!).  I was just trying to understand how such an error could occur. As I said, not seeing something is fine but seeing something that didn’t happen is strange and hard to get my head round.