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General Discussion / Re: D COOTE - Burnley v Bournemouth
« on: Sun 03 Mar 2024 15:00 »
Can't speak for the whole game but two incidents that I saw:

66min - correct decision to pull Burnley up for a foul and 'disallow' an equalising goal.

68min - wild tackle by Tavernier which would have been a justified RC, yellow given by Coote, and also a caution later to one of the Burnley players who mobbed him.

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General Discussion / Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
« on: Sun 25 Feb 2024 18:34 »
Disallowed Liverpool goal is 100% correct and fully in accordance with the current interpretation of Law11. Caicedo's nasty foul was SFP imo but not surprised with any non-intervention there. He should have cottened on to Chelsea's early spoiling tactics a bit quicker but Caicedo aside, I'm struggling to see any CLEAR cards missed by Kavanagh.

Not perfect, but I thought Chris Kavanagh's performance was generally okay, especially taking into account the unwritten 'don't make yourself the centre of attention in a final' rule (ie. not immediately showing early YCs to (Chelsea) players).

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General Discussion / Re: L SMITH - Fulham v Villa
« on: Sat 24 Feb 2024 22:41 »
To further this - very good DOGSO RC today by Smith in Crystal Palace vs. Burnley (it was a fairly 'atypical' last man situation and an unexpected one too), given quickly and with minimum fuss by the young referee.

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Darren Fletcher

Fletcher is appalling (imo) and, at least personally, ruined my enjoyment of the game more than Gozubuyuk's a-bit-insecure-but-not-that-bad performance.

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General Discussion / Re: L SMITH - Fulham v Villa
« on: Tue 20 Feb 2024 20:39 »
As you watched the whole match, what did you think about the: unpunished deliberate back pass, giving a goal kick for an obvious corner, allowing excessive timewasting by Martinez to go unpunished and the insufficent added time due to this, compounded by failing to add back at least 3 minutes of time lost during added time itself?

Backpass I thought (probably) should have been given, maybe because it was so early in the 2H that Smith wasn't fully diled in. Goalkick was very hard one to be sure about from Smith's angle, wouldn't blame him there. He allowed Martinez a bit too much and the time early in the second half where he could/should have issued a warning passed the ref by. I wasn't calculating the additional time myself but if five mins was debateable, then the 'inexistention' of the five was really bad and hopefully didn't go without comment by someone in the debrief...

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General Discussion / Re: L SMITH - Fulham v Villa
« on: Tue 20 Feb 2024 14:38 »
Thank you for the comments on here about this match! Really really interesting read.

It does seem to be PGMOL's internal view that Smith was good in this match - another PGMOL 'insider pretending to be an outsider' like Gallagher, Chris Foy, also wrote on twitter explicitly of a "terrific refereeing performance on debut".

Circling the wagons or the genuine internal assessment?

If only we can see the observer report! That’s one document I’d love to have a gander at!

Completely agree of course, but aren't we into the (totally inane) system of the 'match delegate' reports and then evaluator x writes up a score based on assessing every single decision in isolation?...

I watched the full match just now actually - Smith's performance wasn't a disaster imo and I was expecting more of a match control loss at the end than what happened (he was mobbed twice quite badly in the last 20min and the two additional time YCs were rather exaggerated and unnecessary). However, his performance was far from that of showing outstanding talent either. To put a positive spin on his style, one would say Smith gave a quiet, yet diligent/concentrated impression as a referee - but he seemed rather overcome by the occasion and always a 'passenger' to the match, never really in control of events. "Too early for him" would be a fair resume.

My development advice for him would actually be to watch the games of the VAR for this match, John Brooks. It is hard having been promoted a new league (let alone the biggest in the world!), and it takes him to build a rapport with players, be more relaxed in games, etc. Brooks not only in his decisions, but also in his manner and how he carries himself on the pitch, is able to assure match control even in tough matches. Lewis Smith would benefit from trying to build that element into his own refereeing, as he presented a fairly 'shy' exterior in this encounter.

I would also back up Smith, and Brooks, in the two penalty area incidents. In the first, De Cordova-Reid waits for Torres to come behind him and 'generates' the collision. In the second, Watkins does draw a careless-type contact from the defender, but only having deliberately pushed the ball too far and out of his 'spell' anyway. However, I would say that probably 'football expects' a penalty in both incidents, especially the second.

Clips below.

Fulham appeal - https://streambug.org/cv/e64972
Villa appeal - https://www.streambug.io/cv/6a8ab9

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General Discussion / Re: L SMITH - Fulham v Villa
« on: Tue 20 Feb 2024 11:19 »
Thank you for the comments on here about this match! Really really interesting read.

It does seem to be PGMOL's internal view that Smith was good in this match - another PGMOL 'insider pretending to be an outsider' like Gallagher, Chris Foy, also wrote on twitter explicitly of a "terrific refereeing performance on debut".

Circling the wagons or the genuine internal assessment?

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What is the purpose of this law in the modern game?

It was implemented about 20 years ago as shirt sponsors complained to them that they wanted their logos visible during goals (celebrations). Some associations inquired to FIFA that they didn't want to apply this ruling in their domestic competitions, and this^ is the reply they got from the governing body.

The first WC/EURO this was applied: EURO 2004.

At WC2002 and before, removing your shirt in celebration was not a cautionable offence.

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General Discussion / Re: Sunny Singh Gill - SU vs BHA FAC
« on: Sun 28 Jan 2024 00:02 »
After watching the penalties back after returning home (previously only seen them live and on replays on stadium TVs), I’d like to change my opinion from “incorrect” to debatable. You can understand why they weren’t seen as clear and obvious errors, however very soft indeed.

That being said my stance on the general match performance of the referee remains unchanged.

They aren't debateable in the slightest - and the second one was a very good spot by Gill. I don't understand what Samuel Barrott has to do with discussing the merits of this appointment either?

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General Discussion / Re: 2026 world cup
« on: Fri 19 Jan 2024 13:05 »
Re. Fredriksson - it was probably about time around WC1990 for the age limit to be reduced from 50 to 45, but his overall performance on the game in question was very very good in the opinion of the FIFA assessor at the time (and I'd agree!), but he had the misfortune to miss Diego's Hand of God II and should have awarded a penalty to the Soviets.

FIFA blamed this on Fredriksson's age, but the actual explanation is much less nuanced - he had positioned himself behind the goal for the corner, and had (like Darren England the other day actually) a poor angle into the situation. Stood where referees stand nowadays, Fredriksson would obviously have given the penalty and may well have gone on to referee the final itself.

Age was not a factor in the mistake, and if anything, the Swede showed his experience and class in the rest of the match! :)

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England didn't have a good 'insight angle' into the (SFP) tackle early in the game. Stood here, see below, I'd like to think he'd have issued a red card.

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Benrahma was rightly sent off (good alertness from teammates!) but not to caution the reckless tackle which preceded the VC is a significant miss, imo.

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Appreciate you are entitled to your opinion and this kind of incident is subjective, but which box does it tick for SFP?

There are two kinds of SFPs:

1) the classic 'leg-breaker' with a dangerous studs contact

2) 'tackle as an attack' where someone flies into an opponent with no intent to actually play the ball, using excessive force

This was the latter.

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Rhys is right - the red card is absolutely stick on, a terrible flying tackle; a decision worthy of praise by Darren England. The penalty is more wrong than right but the decision is still supportable imo. Can't speak as for the rest of the game!

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I’m perplexed by the mass “disliking” of some perfectly accurate comments on Pawson...

Agree! He has his own style but is the third-highest-rated English referee by UEFA and personally I would go along with that as well. Wasn't able to watch the game yesterday but pleased to read it went well for him.

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General Discussion / Re: C KAVANAGH - Palace v Everton (FA)
« on: Thu 04 Jan 2024 22:27 »
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This comment is disgraceful.

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