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1
General Discussion / Re: Kovacs - Barcelona v PSG
« on: Wed 17 Apr 2024 15:07 »
Araujo was shown multiple times watching the remainder of the game from the stands.

They’re referring to Xavi.

2
News & Announcements / Re: DUMB emoji
« on: Tue 16 Apr 2024 15:29 »
Would be good if the emoji could be physically deactivated to avoid mistaken/inadvertant use.

Personally, I'd like the Old one to be banned as I'm feeling my age and no doubt TTFL will start calling me Grandad soon!

We have tried that, but couldn’t do so without removing all the other emojis, this is a compromise.

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Thursday 18 April 2024

18:45 CET - Villeneuve-d’Ascq (Decathlon Arena – Stade Pierre-Mauroy)
LOSC Lille (FRA) [1-2] Aston Villa FC (ENG)
Referee: Ivan Kružliak SVK
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko SVK
Assistant Referee 2: Ján Pozor SVK
Fourth Official: Peter Kráľovič SVK
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Michal Očenáš SVK
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz Michael Fröhlich GER
UEFA Delegate: Knut Bjřrn Nordheim NOR

18:45 CET - Florence (Stadio Artemio Franchi)
ACF Fiorentina (ITA) [0-0] FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano ESP
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez ESP
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera Montero ESP
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández ESP
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández ESP
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski MKD
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen NOR

21:00 CET - Thessaloniki (OPAP Arena)
PAOK (GRE) [0-1] Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Davide Massa ITA
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli ITA
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio ITA
Fourth Official: Marco Di Bello ITA
Video Assistant Referee: Aleandro Di Paolo ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luca Pairetto ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson SWE
UEFA Delegate: Milovan Đukanović MNE

21:00 CET - Istanbul (Ülker Stadyumu Fenerbahçe Şükrü Saracoğlu Spor Kompleksi)
Fenerbahçe (TUR) [2-3] Olymbiakós SFP (GRE)
Referee: Tobias Stieler GER
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann GER
Assistant Referee 2: Mark Borsch GER
Fourth Official: Daniel Schlager GER
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sascha Stegemann GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín ESP
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell Zor SVN

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International Appointments / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/2024
« on: Tue 16 Apr 2024 15:23 »
Thursday 18 April 2024

21:00 CET - Rome (Stadio Olimpico)
AS Roma (ITA) [1-0] AC Milan (ITA)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak POL
Assistant Referee 1: Tomasz Listkiewicz POL
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Kupsik POL
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski POL
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski POL
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci ALB
UEFA Delegate: Jan Willem van Dop NED

21:00 CET - Bergamo (Gewiss Stadium)
Atalanta BC (ITA) [3-0] Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: François Letexier FRA
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier FRA
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni FRA
Fourth Official: Pierre Gaillouste FRA
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod FRA
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucílio Cardoso Cortez Batista POR
UEFA Delegate: Aleksandra Pejkovska MKD

21:00 CET - London (London Stadium)
West Ham United FC (ENG) [0-2] Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
Referee: José María Sánchez Martínez ESP
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabańero Martínez ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Ińigo Prieto López de Ceraín ESP
Fourth Official: César Soto Grado ESP
Video Assistant Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande ESP
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea ESP
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan Willem Wegereef NED
UEFA Delegate: Dane Jošt SVN

21:00 CET - Marseille (Orange Vélodrome)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA) [1-2] SL Benfica (POR)
Referee: Felix Zwayer GER
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp GER
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller GER
Fourth Official: Harm Osmers GER
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Kýros Vassáras GRE
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray HUN

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General Discussion / Re: Uefa euro 2024
« on: Mon 15 Apr 2024 15:32 »
Impossible to try and second guess Rosetti, but assuming they go with 19 officials again, this is my current view:

12 Dead-certs: Taylor, Oliver, Turpin, Letexier, Zwayer, Orsato, Kovacs, Makkelie, Marciniak, Vincic, Gil Manzano + the CONMEBOL exchange referee

3 Very likely: Sanchez Martinez, Dias, Gozbubyuk,

4 Others: Massa (although Guida seems quite in favour at the moment for the 2nd Italian spot), Nyberg, Peljto, Scharer (or Meler if unfit).

This would mean 2 officials from England, France, Netherlands, Italy and Spain

Regarding Frappart, I'm not sure they will have 3 French officials unless they increase the referee pool to say 23 or 24 referees.

Much as I would like both Taylor and Oliver to be at Euro'24, I'm not sure Oliver can be regarded as a "dead cert".  Since his extended absence over Christmas and New Year, his international appointments have been fairly routine even in the Europa League.  This links in with the question of whether 5 countries will provide 2 referees. 

France certainly with Turpin and Letexier but are the other 4 so clear cut?

For Spain, there has been debate on Law5 as to whether Manzano might lose out to Martinez due to at least one very disappointing performance.

I expect Italy will have a second referee as well as Orsato although whether deserved is debatable, and whether it should be
Massa or Guida is another matter.

From the Netherlands, I think Gözübüyük is likely to go with Makkelie.

Whether Portugal will have a representative in Dias, I'm not sure.

Recent reports suggest Nyberg and Meler have performed well and Rosetti could be inclined to recognise that.

Hasn't it been confirmed there will only be 18 referees.  If so, does that include a South American?

I hope Oliver is at the Euros.  Overall he was good at the last Euros and in Qatar with a knock-out appt. but did particularly well in the Group stages.  But I don't feel it's a given as some suggest.

I’d say Dias is pretty Likely to go.

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17 April 2024

21:00 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena München)
FC Bayern München (GER) - Arsenal FC (ENG)
Referee: Danny Makkelie NED
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra NED
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries NED
Fourth Official: Sander van der Eijk NED
Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti NED
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina ITA
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazancıoğlu TUR

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: Daniele Orsato ITA
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone ITA
Assistant Referee 2:Alessandro Giallatini ITA
Fourth Official: Maurizio Mariani ITA
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer LUX
UEFA Delegate: Emil Ubias CZE

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16 April 2024

21:00 CET - Barcelona (Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys)
FC Barcelona (ESP) - Paris Saint Germain (FRA)
Referee: István Kovács ROU
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu ROU
Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Ovidiu Artene ROU

Fourth Official: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic ROU
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge NOR
UEFA Delegate: Gerard Lawlor NIR

21:00 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER)  - Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
Referee: Slavko Vinčić SVN
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik SVN
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič SVN
Fourth Official: Matej Jug SVN
Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazovič SVN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rade Obrenovič SVN
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz TUR
UEFA Delegate: Marcin Stefański POL

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Makes me sad as an arsenal fan watching Saka do that at the end as he is a great player, and had a great chance to score. Thought Nyberg was very good and consistent throughout. He certainly looks like a top ref in the making.

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International Appointments / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/2024
« on: Tue 09 Apr 2024 10:23 »
Thursday 11 April 2024

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio San Siro)
AC Milan (ITA) - AS Roma (ITA)
Referee: Clément Turpin FRA
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos FRA
Assistant Referee 2: Erwan Finjean FRA
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet FRA
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod FRA
UEFA Referee Observer: Manuel Díaz Vega ESP
UEFA Delegate: Angelo Chetcuti MLT

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - Atalanta BC (ITA)
Referee: Halil Umut Meler TUR
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy TUR
Assistant Referee 2: Kerem Ersoy TUR
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler TUR
Video Assistant Referee: Alper Ulusoy TUR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen TUR
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn SVN
UEFA Delegate: Peter Palenčík SVK

21:00 CET - Leverkusen (BayArena)
Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) - West Ham United (ENG)
Referee: Artur Manuel Ribeiro Soares Dias POR
Assistant Referee 1: Paulo Alexandre dos Santos Soares POR
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ricardo Ferreira Ribeiro POR
Fourth Official: António Emanuel Carvalho Nobre POR
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins POR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hugo Filipe Ferreira de Campos Moreira Miguel POR
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili GEO
UEFA Delegate: Giel Kirkels NED

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do SL Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
Referee: Michael Oliver ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Cook ENG
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley ENG
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jarred Gavan Gillett AUS

UEFA Referee Observer: Luis Medina Cantalejo ESP
UEFA Delegate: Filip Popovski MKD

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Thursday 11 April 2024

18:45 CET - Piraeus (Stadio Georgios Karaiskakis)
Olymbiakós SFP (GRE) - Fenerbahçe (TUR)
Referee: Sandro Schärer SUI
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida SUI
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj SUI
Fourth Official: Alessandro Dudic SUI
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Lionel Tschudi SUI
UEFA Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeckere BEL
UEFA Delegate: Attila Tömo HUN

18:45 CET - Plzeň (Doosan Aréna)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
Referee: Orel Grinfeeld  ISR
Assistant Referee 1: Roy Hassan ISR
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni ISR
Fourth Official: Gal Leibovitz ISR
Video Assistant Referee: Ziv Adler ISR
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Roi Reinshreiber ISR
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Antonov MDA
UEFA Delegate: Aurel Ionescu ROU

21:00 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - PAOK (GRE)
Referee: Daniel Siebert GER
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel GER
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn GER
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski GER
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sören Storks GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi SMR
UEFA Delegate: Artur Azaryan ARM

21:00 CET - Birmingham (Villa Park)
Aston Villa FC (ENG) - LOSC Lille (FRA)
Referee: Espen Eskĺs NOR
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Erik Engan NOR
Assistant Referee 2: Isaak Elias Bashevkin NOR
Fourth Official: Rohit Saggi NOR
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Johan Higler NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel NED
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Velasco Carballo ESP
UEFA Delegate: Johny Vanspauwen BEL

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10 April 2024

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Metropolitano)
Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Marco Guida ITA
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone ITA
Assistant Referee 2: Giorgio Peretti ITA
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca ITA
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs SUI
UEFA Delegate: Loukas Siotropos GRE

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint Germain (FRA) - FC Barcelona (ESP)
Referee: Anthony Taylor ENG
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick ENG
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn ENG
Fourth Official: Robert Jones ENG
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell ENG
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: David Coote ENG

UEFA Referee Observer: Björn Kuipers NED
UEFA Delegate: Michael Kirchner GER

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General Discussion / Re: John Brooks: BHA v Arsenal
« on: Sun 07 Apr 2024 08:13 »
No way that's a penalty and the Doku one among others isn't.

Really fearing about consistency in this title race.

Definitely some blinkers on with this post. Yes the doku one should’ve been a pen, but that doesn’t mean this one isn’t.

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General Discussion / Re: A Taylor - Man City V Arsenal
« on: Wed 03 Apr 2024 08:36 »
I thought overall Taylor did well - in a game of this magnitude, you just don't want the referee to be blamed for a decision that changes a game, and he did well not to fall for some of the theatrics in the penalty area.

I do think we were lucky not to get a couple of players cautioned - Jesus early on a clear example, although you could equally make the case a City player slid in late on to deliberately stop a counter and wasn't booked too. Taylor clearly set out to not flash the cards, which he got away with because he is Anthony Taylor whose reputation and experience allows him to do that. I think bar Oliver, any other SG referee who tried this approach would have really struggled.

Very dull game, and a bit of an anti-climax, but I'll take the point!  :)

I agree with much of what you say, he was certainly consistent in not awarding yellow cards to both sides although (perhaps naturally) I thought there was only one candidate challenge for a yellow card by City against five for Arsenal. (The two yellow cards given were of players saying "please book me" in my view).  A foul count of 16 against Arsenal against 4 against City at the 70th minute is quite telling (evened up a bit later as City perhaps wearied of being kicked).  I will never understand the semi-amnesty against cards in the early stages of a game and Jesus on Bernardo was, to me a clear yellow card at any time in any game at any level. 

Surely the best management is to set the expectations early in the game and stick to them.

There was particular period of five minutes between the 50th and 55th minute where there were 4 fouls awarded against Arsenal.  Mostly there were of  the "professional foul" type intending to break up attacking moves.  But that only tells part of the story, between 51.45 and 51.50 there were three "never mind the ball, lets get on with the game" challenges for the first two "advantage" was played despite the ball being effectively a "hospital" pass to a City player who was clobbered as soon as the ball arrived.  Even after the third challenge no card appeared.  If the referee looks back on that few minutes he might well come out in a cold sweat thinking what could have happened if one of those challenges had resulted in serious injury or if City had retaliated in style when he would have almost certainly have lost control of the game.  City players deserve credit for not responding in type.

As I understand it the notion that a referee not issuing cards is to let the game flow.  In this case it has had the exact opposite effect allowing Arsenal to break up play with impunity and contributing to a "Very dull game"

Very good piece by you, Microscopist. I think it sums in up perfectly. I'm fascinated to here as part of the debate the views of those who disliked the post.



I think bruntyboy has summed up my reasons for disagreeing above.   

I apologise for the dislike however, I’ll use disagree in future.

Edited to fix quotethingamajigga, bmb

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Tuesday, 26 March 2024

Path A

20:45 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
WALES - POLAND
Referee: Daniele Orsato ITA
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone ITA
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini ITA
Fourth Official: Davide Massa ITA
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec FRA
UEFA Delegate: Aristídis Stavrópoulos GRE

Path B

20:45 CET - Wrocław, POL (Tarczyński Arena)
UKRAINE - ICELAND
Referee: Clément Turpin FRA
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos FRA
Assistant Referee 2: Erwan Finjean FRA
Fourth Official: François Letexier FRA
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod FRA
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin SVN
UEFA Delegate: Michal Valtr CZE

Path C

18:00 CET - Tbilisi (Boris Paichadzis Sakhelobis Dinamo Arena)
GEORGIA - GREECE
Referee: Szymon Marciniak POL
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki POL
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz POL
Fourth Official: Ivan Kružliak SVK
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski POL
UEFA Referee Observer: Howard Webb ENG
UEFA Delegate: Andrey Medintsev BUL

UEFA Nations League - Play-Outs

Tuesday 26 March 2024

18:00 CET - Kaunas (Dariaus ir Girėno stadionas)
LITHUANIA - GIBRALTAR
Referee: Duje Strukan CRO
Assistant Referee 1: Bojan Zobenica CRO
Assistant Referee 2: Alen Jakšić CRO
Fourth Official: Fran Jović CRO
Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazovič SVN
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rade Obrenovič SVN
UEFA Referee Observer: Paweł Gil POL
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka CZE

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