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Messages - ShoeRef
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« on: Mon 16 Mar 2026 14:59 »
I’m aware of what they said, and obviously the camera is placed as such that I’ve no idea whether Mr Guest is in line, but all we can judge him on is accuracy of his onside/offside judgement and it looks to be very correct to me. Photo attached. This is as close to the moment of the pass (or attempted shot) as I can get it and the arrowed blue player looks to be being played onside by the circled red player…
I was sitting fairly high up in the Main Stand directly opposite the incident and AR2 Mr Guest. Fact - the Walsall player looked clearly offside. However, in the absence of the photo you say is attached, I took a further look at the ITV clip of the incident and yes, I now accept that he could have been played onside by a Crewe player moving upfield too slowly. As you say, Mr Guest is officiating in the professional game whilst I and everyone else in the Stand are not (as confirmed by the amount of c**p I sometimes hear in the Stand). So my eyes may have been deceiving me, and if they were, I apologise to Mr Guest. As I said in my initial comment, I was struck by the lack of protest by the Crewe players, and perhaps you have now highlighted why.
In fairness, the tone on my post maybe slightly OTT for a friendly forum, and it was not your assessment that I took issue with, more one of the other poster. I can absolutely see why it looked offside in real time, but the image which it says is waiting approval (first time I've ever tried to post a photo and I don't know what the rules are) definitely suggests he is onside. As for the rest of the performance of Mr Parkinson, I can not possibly comment other than to say that the penalty looks to me to be incorrect - I would agree.
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« on: Mon 16 Mar 2026 12:34 »
I’m aware of what they said, and obviously the camera is placed as such that I’ve no idea whether Mr Guest is in line, but all we can judge him on is accuracy of his onside/offside judgement and it looks to be very correct to me. Photo attached. This is as close to the moment of the pass (or attempted shot) as I can get it and the arrowed blue player looks to be being played onside by the circled red player…
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« on: Mon 16 Mar 2026 10:04 »
Have any of those people that are expert ARs from the stands at the Crewe game actually watched the first goal back? Because it looks onside to me. Maybe there's a reason Mr Guest is operating on the professional game and the stand dwellers aren't?
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« on: Thu 05 Mar 2026 09:35 »
I think Peter Bankes had a great game. It’s about time referees start booking players for simulation. He is strong!
Paul Howard let him down as VAR during the Leeds vs Man City game on Saturday.
Peter Bankes for the FA Cup Final?
In what way? Paul Howard has been flawless on VAR this season IMO
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« on: Wed 25 Feb 2026 21:54 »
An even shorter wait at Huddersfield bus station meant that by 23.11, JCFC was in bed with a mug of tea and a cream horn.
It’s very pleasing to know that even in your twilight years you can still manage to have the horn in bed. 🙈 🧥
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« on: Fri 20 Feb 2026 14:54 »
For me it all hinges on defining “feinting”. The player ran up to the ball but did not kick it. To me this fits the football definition of feinting, although I can’t guess at his actual intent. Once I reach this concussion the only criticism is that DD failed to cation the player involved.
Sadly, regardless of the definition of feinting (and your concussion), he can't be correct either way. As no contact was made with the ball, if you determine it to be feinting or delaying the restart, then the player is cautioned, if it is neither and it's a genuine misunderstanding then you don't need to caution, but whichever way you approach it, the kick must be taken as the restart.
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« on: Wed 18 Feb 2026 10:42 »
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick
Seems he weas correct perhaps as it talks about illegal feinting here
My disagree was on the basis that I read you were saying perhaps the ref is correct (sadly he isn't) but then I realised that you may have been saying the afformentioned observer was correct... so I'm not sure haha.
If the kick isn't taken, the restart can not be anything other than a penalty. As said above, the player can be cautioned, but he still gets a second chance. There was actually a question in the steps 2-6 January LOTG test to this effect. Only if the kick is taken and a feint was made at the end of the run up, can there be an IDFK restart.
As a mere watcher, does it have to be the same identified player who gets the "second chance"? I presume that if the player were to be injured (goodness knows how) during his run up, there would be provision for a replacement.
Yeah if the kicker was injured then you could swap kickers (and you'd probably not be cautioning as its not unsporting to be injured - the unsporting element is either delaying the restart or trying to gain an advantage over the goalkeeper by seeing which way he moves). Should a team decide they want to change taker after such an incident without it being the result of an injury... I don't actually think law gives us a clear answer, but I'd be inclined to say that it's fine (and would probably help justify the caution as delaying the restart)
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« on: Wed 18 Feb 2026 09:52 »
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick
Seems he weas correct perhaps as it talks about illegal feinting here
My disagree was on the basis that I read you were saying perhaps the ref is correct (sadly he isn't) but then I realised that you may have been saying the afformentioned observer was correct... so I'm not sure haha. If the kick isn't taken, the restart can not be anything other than a penalty. As said above, the player can be cautioned, but he still gets a second chance. There was actually a question in the steps 2-6 January LOTG test to this effect. Only if the kick is taken and a feint was made at the end of the run up, can there be an IDFK restart.
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« on: Mon 09 Feb 2026 14:30 »
My point is that an ex FIFA referee should be expected to make that call on-field as he was perfectly positioned…..are they getting too reliant on a safety net or is he not up to date with the LOTG which is actually his employment.
Good debate though.
I doesn't seem like you're interested in a debate, it seems like you're more interested in criticising Pawson. I can only imagine he played advantage after the foul on Haaland and didn't feel the pull by Haaland back on Szoboslai was impactful enough to need to penalise. 'Safe defensive free kick' goes out the window because it results in a red card for the fouled player so he's now looking for a very clear and obvious foul. Show me a referee that hasn't made a similar error of judgement?
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« on: Mon 02 Feb 2026 09:26 »
Congratulations, too, to ell, for the accuracy of his judgement. No congratulations to JCFC and Keith Hackett for our doubts on our first sighting of him!
I must say, given the respective (and significantly opposing) opinions yourself and Mr Hackett put out in to the public domain regarding referees, I can give your opinion a lot more credence than Mr Hackett's.
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« on: Thu 29 Jan 2026 15:00 »
In contrast to the previous week's officials, County badges were sadly deficient.
This is an odd one I find - and by that I mean... I always wear my county badge on FA competitions and county cup matches, but I know I am meant to purely from being told. I have never seen it written down. I think there are lots of officials out there who have never been told and thus don't know that it is the correct protocol to do so.
Regulation 11(d) of The FA's Referee Regulations (p.487 of the latest version of the 25/26 FA Handbook):
Match Officials officiating in FA Competition matches are required to wear the FIFA or Football Association
badge (where awarded) or the badge of their Affiliated Association. No other competition badge
should be worn.
Thanks, this is good to know, although I wasn't suggesting it wasn't written down, rather that where ever it is written, it's not somewhere many referees (myself included) will see it! Must say I don't think I've read the FA Handbook at all.
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« on: Thu 29 Jan 2026 11:09 »
In contrast to the previous week's officials, County badges were sadly deficient.
This is an odd one I find - and by that I mean... I always wear my county badge on FA competitions and county cup matches, but I know I am meant to purely from being told. I have never seen it written down. I think there are lots of officials out there who have never been told and thus don't know that it is the correct protocol to do so.
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« on: Tue 27 Jan 2026 14:34 »
Great games for Hooper and Jones. Salisbury with another opportunity to impress at Forest and Robinson makes a return to the middle after what seems like a very long absence from the premier league.
Once again, I will bring up Michael Oliver’s appointments this time. It just seems silly to appoint him Saturday, and with the PGMO knowing he has a champions league appointment, then give him another Saturday game. Just seems poor man management to me.
Whoever is in charge of the appointments can't seem to do right for doing wrong on here. If he was given a big Super Sunday fixture people would also bemoan that so soon after a CL game.
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« on: Mon 26 Jan 2026 14:42 »
Congratulations on a highly efficient PL debut from Farai Hallam culminating in a correct VAR review where he showed all the required attributes of a top match official…..confidence…resilience…strength of character. Two experienced referees at this level chose to send him to review his on-field decision of a non penalty and he correctly stuck by his original decision which was refreshing and showed guts as on most occasions the on-field referee changes his opinion when guided by more experienced colleagues. His colleagues at Stockley Park let him down as this was not a subjective decision and had he not been so strong the outcome would have been incorrect. On this showing I feel his career will go from strength to strength and I hope it is not too long before we see him again on the PL fixtures.
I don't mind the opinion on the rest of things, but it's very incorrect to say it's not a subjective decision. It's absolutely a subjective decision.
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« on: Mon 26 Jan 2026 12:35 »
In contrast to the opening post (and having not seen the Chelsea one from yesterday)... I actually agree with England's stance on the other 2.
I don't think the Forest one was an obvious error and I do (albeit in a minority) think that the Wolves one was, when you see the angle from behind the player and the way his arms come up.
Kudos to Farai for having the balls to stick with his original decision on debut, but I do think it was an error to do so.
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