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Messages - El Referee
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« on: Sun 15 Mar 2026 20:19 »
100% he only cautions because he’s realised he’s messed an advantage up. Then panics when he realised the player was already on a caution
Really is not acceptable at that level
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« on: Sun 15 Mar 2026 17:23 »
Rosenior really is living up to the ‘David Brent’ persona that so many people have tagged him with. Saying the players wanted to crowd round the ball to respect it; what a load of complete and utter tosh.
Rather refreshingly, a lot of fans on the radio phone in earlier, were actually on Tierneys side rather than Chelsea
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« on: Sat 14 Mar 2026 18:01 »
His terrible week continues clear second yellow not given for a trip just outside the box, terrible officiating
Should have been given a week off rather than a promotion
I’m fairly new to the forum, and happy to criticise/praise referees when needed; but I think you really should provide a video before you make such a statement. I’ve not seen it, so nigh on impossible to have an opinion
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« on: Sat 14 Mar 2026 17:42 »
I may be down voted here, but Tierney not knowing what to do isn’t rare….
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« on: Sat 14 Mar 2026 16:10 »
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« on: Tue 10 Mar 2026 21:28 »
The following is under the umbrella of Liverpool didnt deserve anything from this game and that the result very much reflected both teams' performances.
That has to be one of the worst performances in a long time from Gil Mazano.
Firstly, Galas 2nd goal shouldn't have been disallowed. A generational mess up at the back which the offside player had absolutely no impact. Terrible from VAR.
Then Liverpool categorically shouldn't have had their goal disallowed. The official reasoning from VAR was that it went into the goal straight off Konates arm, which is factually incorrect. It deflects off about 3 other players before ending in.the goal. And even if it came off Konates hand again before going in the goal, there is absolutely no angles that show that, so how the goal was disallowed is a mystery.
All of the above coupled with random foul detection, player reactions being used to judge on yellow cards as well as some dreadful free kick signalling in the box made it an extremely poor performance for Mazano. Given the talent in the UEFA pool, he shouldn't been seen again in this competition this season.
On a side note, Spanish refereeing really isn't in a good way. Sanchez Martinez is bang average, with his sending to the World Cup being a token political gesture as performances really haven't warranted it. I do like Hernandez, the new Elite referee, so i really hope he can continue his good form, as the 2 above him really are not good enough to be Spains leading referees.
Wasn’t the greatest performance by the officials or Liverpool, but wasn’t the goal disallowed for handball by Van Dijk, not Konate?
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« on: Fri 06 Mar 2026 17:37 »
I agree that the Henry type incidents are what we want to stop, but VAR has morphed far beyond that. And I feel that we’re too far gone to reign it back.
A challenge based system could work imo. Give each team X amount of challenges, and only a set criteria of things they can challenge e.g red cards, penalties and so on. No challenging throw ins or trivial fouls outside the PA.
Successful in your appeal; you keep your challenge. Fail in it; lose your challenge.
If teams are deemed to be taking the p*ss and doing as you say with the challenges; fine then it remove their ability to challenge.
Clubs may then bother learning laws, as it would be in their best interests to for any challenges.
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« on: Fri 06 Mar 2026 11:32 »
This again underlines my frustration with VAR. 9 times out of 10 it's given as a penalty, and VAR backs up the decision. This time, the ref doesn't give it and, predictably, VAR backs up the decision.
Again, VAR is just a mess, and the inherent inconsistency on subjective decisions means it can never work.
I hate VAR more than the next person. Maybe even more. But you have to remember why VAR is there; Clear & Obvious errors.
I completely agree that there are some C&O errors that they don’t get involved in, and others in which they get involved when it isn’t. But for me, this one is definitely one I wouldn’t want VAR getting involved in. As much as Sels definitely makes contact with Haaland, I’m not fully convinced that the movement of his right leg wasn’t done to ensure contact is made
Ps…..also really don’t rate Darren England!
But my issue with this is that you've seen very similar - and much clearer - situations where the attacker has either not avoided contact, or actually initiated it, and the VAR has stuck with the penalty decision.
I go back to Max Dowman, who literally chucked his leg out to kick the Leeds defender. It was a dive. It was cheating. Yet the penalty was upheld. Same with Bogle of Leeds the other week. He drags his left foot to make the contact, yet VAR cleared it as a penalty within about 5 seconds. The inconsistency is infuriating, and the reality is we would all disagree at certain points as to what is and isn't a penalty.
If I think of 4 incidents that I have off the top of my head at the moment, Haaland, Dowman, Bogle and James (from the Villa v Chelsea game) I'd argue the two that weren't given as penalties (Haaland, James) were much more clear fouls than Bogle and, in particular, Dowman. So VAR isn't correcting minor errors, and indeed is missing major ones quite routinely, whilst also meaning that the inconsistency is baked in because they will try to support the on field decision wherever possible. It's a circle that can't be squared, and football would be so much better without it for these subjective decisions.
I don't necessarily disagree. But I come back to the key phrase; Clear & Obvious. I can't think of the other examples that you give off the top of my head, but the Haaland one was not one I looked at and basically winced because I thought it was clearly wrong. For me, it was an 'I've seen them given'. And this is where VAR really falls down. The whole point of it was to make sure things like the Henry handball, Mendes & Lampard 'goals' can't happen again. The problem is that it morphed into micromanaging things, and had completely changed everyones expectations and perspective of VAR. If I had it my way, we'd either bin it entirely or bring in a challenge based system. The current system just doesn't work.
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« on: Thu 05 Mar 2026 18:47 »
This again underlines my frustration with VAR. 9 times out of 10 it's given as a penalty, and VAR backs up the decision. This time, the ref doesn't give it and, predictably, VAR backs up the decision.
Again, VAR is just a mess, and the inherent inconsistency on subjective decisions means it can never work.
I hate VAR more than the next person. Maybe even more. But you have to remember why VAR is there; Clear & Obvious errors. I completely agree that there are some C&O errors that they don’t get involved in, and others in which they get involved when it isn’t. But for me, this one is definitely one I wouldn’t want VAR getting involved in. As much as Sels definitely makes contact with Haaland, I’m not fully convinced that the movement of his right leg wasn’t done to ensure contact is made Ps…..also really don’t rate Darren England!
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« on: Thu 05 Mar 2026 06:12 »
The problem we have is pgmol guidance that only holding that is impactful results in a foul given, this just encourages players to keep holding rather than eradicating it.
If you to prevent holding in the penalty area then dont condone it simples !!
But that isn’t the guidance, it’s only part of the guidance. There’s plenty of other considerations. Considerations that could easily justify a foul. But the impactful one seems to be the one PGMOL loves to focus on
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« on: Wed 04 Mar 2026 17:37 »
For the potential penalty for holding by O'Nien, whether we agree with it or not PGMO have stated that penalties will only be given if the holding is impactful, and that means stops the opponent and prevents them from getting to the ball. Whilst there's no doubt this stopped the opponent in his tracks, from memory the ball wasn't going anywhere near where that holding happened or where the held attacker was heading, and therefore isn't going to get given either by on-field officials or VAR.
This ain’t quite true. Attached is PGMOLs guidance. What you say is a consideration, but not the only one.
For me, this incident ticks the ‘non-footballing action’ section
Its the only one that I can remember Webb repeatedly referring to.
I imagine he was trying to dig himself and an official out of a hole and justify a decision/non-decision. And this is the problem with Mic’d Up. But their guidance is pretty clear. And it’s also pretty clear to me (at least!) that a penalty was justifiable, if not expected, in this scenario.
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« on: Wed 04 Mar 2026 17:08 »
For the potential penalty for holding by O'Nien, whether we agree with it or not PGMO have stated that penalties will only be given if the holding is impactful, and that means stops the opponent and prevents them from getting to the ball. Whilst there's no doubt this stopped the opponent in his tracks, from memory the ball wasn't going anywhere near where that holding happened or where the held attacker was heading, and therefore isn't going to get given either by on-field officials or VAR.
This ain’t quite true. Attached is PGMOLs guidance. What you say is a consideration, but not the only one. For me, this incident ticks the ‘non-footballing action’ section
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« on: Mon 02 Mar 2026 19:57 »
Many Leeds fans are claiming that the booing was aimed not at the break in itself but rather that Pep took the opportunity to involve all of his team in a quick coaching session. At a time when Leeds had taken a grip on the game and City hadn't yet found their rhythm.
And I’m the queen of Sheeba
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