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General Refereeing => General Discussion => Topic started by: UmpireIan49 on Wed 07 Dec 2022 21:08
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First time I’ve seen this referee in action and I’m afraid to say, I’m not too impressed with him at all.
Random foul detection, bordering on erratic and as i write, the match is danger of going out of control as the players seem to be taking the law into their own hands. Could see a red card coming soon for somebody I think.
Clear penalty to Stockport in the first half when the attacker was elbowed in the back of the head, nothing given.
Then, just now, a Stockport player was nudged into the advertising hoardings behind the goal by a Charlton player, leading to an unseemly scuffle that Mr. Oldham was struggling to control.
The player did some damage to the hoardings and thankfully not to himself, but no yellow card for the miscreant, which was puzzling. Then some afters 2/3 minutes later, which again the referee seem to leave to the players to sort out amongst themselves.
The game is a little febrile to say the least and Mr. Oldham seems to be considerably above the level he ought to be doing on the strength of this.
Any comments from those who have witnessed him in action?
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Seemed to lose control of himself, shouting angrily at players
The original incident was unfortunate as at most other grounds there is more space. As contact was on FOP any action would have included a penalty. We have allowed defenders to shepherd the ball out for many a year, without the ball always being in playing distance.
Separate issue: why was a player allowed back onto the field when clearly he hit his head/face/neck on a solid, inanimate object? He should be off for a through assessment, temporarily replaced aa required. Madness
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Apologies RCG, I should have added that the nudge on the Stockport player should have led to a penalty and a yellow card.
Also agree that the concussion protocols weren’t followed very correctly, which isn’t good.
The last part of this game has seen a flurry of yellow cards and a clear cut penalty finally awarded to Stockport. So justice was done in the end. But still an erratic performance from the referee in all fairness.
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temporarily replaced aa required
Concussion substitution protocols don't allow for a temporary substitution while a HIA is taking place - if a team doesn't make a snap decision to use a concussion substitution, then they'll be down a player while the HIA is carried out.
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My point exactly. There is no way he should have continued without proper assessment, which cannot be done at pitchside
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My point exactly. There is no way he should have continued without proper assessment, which cannot be done at pitchside
Agreed. It has happened at least twice during the World Cup, both in games involving England. Too often players with head injuries are being allowed to stay on the FOP only to be removed a few minutes later when it becomes clear that they should not continue, simply because of the substitution Laws. Somewhere down the line an avoidable tragedy will occur as a result. Until the Laws change, medical staff need to be more responsible and get players off.
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My point exactly. There is no way he should have continued without proper assessment, which cannot be done at pitchside
Agreed. It has happened at least twice during the World Cup, both in games involving England. Too often players with head injuries are being allowed to stay on the FOP only to be removed a few minutes later when it becomes clear that they should not continue, simply because of the substitution Laws. Somewhere down the line an avoidable tragedy will occur as a result. Until the Laws change, medical staff need to be more responsible and get players off.
Absolutely nothing the referees can do about it though. If the physio / doctor says the player is OK to continue they can't overrule that, however much they might think the player isn't right.
Back when I was playing a team mate had a nasty clash of heads with an opponent. We didn't have a physio (Sunday league) but I'd done basic first aid as part of the coaching course, so I checked him over and he seemed OK. 10 minutes later he started telling me that his wife was going to kill him as he was going to be late for the party that night, unfortunately the party was the one that he had gone to the night before. At that point all kinds of alarm bells were ringing and I insisted he went off and he was taken straight to the closest hospital. Just shows how a proper assessment is needed though, as players can look and seem OK at first only to then suffer a reaction later.