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General Refereeing => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joecphillips on Sat 17 Sep 2022 15:49

Title: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: Joecphillips on Sat 17 Sep 2022 15:49: Clear penalty missed, none of the ball brings the man down
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Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland
Post by: robbieg on Sat 17 Sep 2022 20:07: BBC have the referee as Bobby Madley.

That is definitely not him.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland
Post by: TVOS on Sat 17 Sep 2022 20:29: Quote from: robbieg on Sat 17 Sep 2022 20:07
BBC have the referee as Bobby Madley.

That is definitely not him.

John Busby
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Sat 17 Sep 2022 20:47: It would be useful if the referee could be listed under the 'subject heading'.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland
Post by: yfc54 on Sat 17 Sep 2022 20:48: It was a penalty all day, all night, every day of the year and even the Watford commentary team agreed
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: rustyref on Mon 19 Sep 2022 21:27: Absolutely no chance. He has felt contact on his back and thrown himself to the floor.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: Joecphillips on Tue 20 Sep 2022 19:33: Quote from: rustyref on Mon 19 Sep 2022 21:27
Absolutely no chance. He has felt contact on his back and thrown himself to the floor.
That contact being the foul, contact to the back of his leg and then a push in the back.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: Joecphillips on Wed 21 Sep 2022 12:23: Quote from: charlieboy on Tue 20 Sep 2022 21:10
Quote from: Joecphillips on Tue 20 Sep 2022 19:33
Quote from: rustyref on Mon 19 Sep 2022 21:27
Absolutely no chance. He has felt contact on his back and thrown himself to the floor.
That contact being the foul, contact to the back of his leg and then a push in the back.
The red and white tints have clearly blinded your view. That is the clearest case of simulation I have seen the referees only mistake was not to caution .
As has been stated the Watford commentators also stated how blatant a penalty it is, have their red and white tints also blinded their view?
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: yfc54 on Wed 21 Sep 2022 13:04: Clear penalty. No tints of any colour required.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: Ashington46 on Wed 21 Sep 2022 15:48: I am intrigued because two posters state that it was a clear penalty, however, the officials obviously didn't think so and here we are 4 days later discussing an obvious non-event as far as officialdom is concerned.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: Mikael W on Thu 22 Sep 2022 09:47: I can understand why Busby played on (Sunderland player obviously is waiting for the contact in the back to generate a penalty decision), but the defender's actions are probably too clumsy/careless and I think that 'football expects' a penalty kick to be awarded here.
Title: Re: Watford v Sunderland John Busby
Post by: RefObserver on Thu 22 Sep 2022 11:24: Neither is clear and to say a pen or non-penalty is such I believe is wrong.

It looks clumsy but whilst I have a slight slant towards one of them, I still cannot decide if it is a foul, simulation or normal contact.

As such, with it not being a clear and obvious error by the referee his view would probably have been supported by the Evaluator.