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General Refereeing => Club chat => Topic started by: Acme Thunderer on Wed 07 Sep 2022 17:51

Title: Brighton v Palace
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Wed 07 Sep 2022 17:51
The eagerly-awaited Brighton v Palace game on Sat 17th Sept has been postponed due to a 'rail strike' that day (BBC). Seems very odd to me, particularly as the recent Palace v Villa game was also played on a strike day without incident. And will other PL fixtures that day go the same way? Strange!
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: bmb on Wed 07 Sep 2022 18:11
Brighton rely on public transport for access to the ground I believe so that might be why. I read somewhere they'd have to try and find 10's of thousands of park and ride spaces, which could have been a purely sarcastic comment by someone or based on fact. I don't know either way!
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: rustyref on Wed 07 Sep 2022 20:51
The obvious problem here is this rail strike won't be ending any time soon, neither side is even close to budging so it could last the duration of the season or longer.  If they postpone every time there is a home game they are going to have a significant fixture backlog.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: TVOS on Wed 07 Sep 2022 21:27
I would imagine the fact they are hated local rivals might have played a part in specific transport arrangements.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 07 Sep 2022 22:41
The eagerly-awaited Brighton v Palace game on Sat 17th Sept has been postponed due to a 'rail strike' that day (BBC). Seems very odd to me, particularly as the recent Palace v Villa game was also played on a strike day without incident. And will other PL fixtures that day go the same way? Strange!

The only “en mass” way to get to the AMEX aside from the train is the buses. With the main A27 dual carriageway literally outside the ground it would cause absolute havoc and there are no other walking options unless you trudge (illegally) on the carriageway itself.

The buses would not cope with 30k fans and the fan segregation MUST happen otherwise there will be a riot.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 07 Sep 2022 22:42
Brighton rely on public transport for access to the ground I believe so that might be why. I read somewhere they'd have to try and find 10's of thousands of park and ride spaces, which could have been a purely sarcastic comment by someone or based on fact. I don't know either way!

There are car parks in the university complex but limited to 750-1000 spaces.

The park and ride scheme is available but wouldn’t cope at all, plus the A27 would be gridlocked.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Thu 08 Sep 2022 10:20
Thanks for these responses. Point taken although rustyref's comment correctly illustrates a potential problem for the future.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: bmb on Thu 08 Sep 2022 11:19
They are going to need an alternative solution, quite what that is I have no idea.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: ajb95 on Thu 08 Sep 2022 11:41
SHouldn't have built a ground so far outside town....?
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: bmb on Thu 08 Sep 2022 12:49
I don't think there was a viable alternate site. I know our owner has looked for an alternate site for AFCB but there is simply nothing viable.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: mauricelapin on Thu 08 Sep 2022 13:04
SHouldn't have built a ground so far outside town....?
It isn't that far from town, and was the only viable location after exhaustive considerations of other sites. The main problem is that too much is relied on Falmer station (far from the most significant one on the Southern Railway). When the trains are running as per normal schedule, getting from Brighton (or Lewes) to Falmer is straightforward, and the trains are not over-full on the outward journey because those attending the AMEX tend to stagger their arrival times. However, at the end of matches, most will wish to return to Brighton, and this leads to massive congestion. Crystal Palace fans wishing to return to Croydon - almost inevitably via Brighton - are an additional problem in any event.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Thu 08 Sep 2022 17:02
SHouldn't have built a ground so far outside town....?
It isn't that far from town, and was the only viable location after exhaustive considerations of other sites. The main problem is that too much is relied on Falmer station (far from the most significant one on the Southern Railway). When the trains are running as per normal schedule, getting from Brighton (or Lewes) to Falmer is straightforward, and the trains are not over-full on the outward journey because those attending the AMEX tend to stagger their arrival times. However, at the end of matches, most will wish to return to Brighton, and this leads to massive congestion. Crystal Palace fans wishing to return to Croydon - almost inevitably via Brighton - are an additional problem in any event.

Having worked in Lewes when there has been a match between these two sides, a lot of palace fans go via Lewes on the Eastbourne train to Falmer and avoid Brighton. This helps with some segregation however it can be a nightmare to police.
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: ajb95 on Thu 08 Sep 2022 23:37
SHouldn't have built a ground so far outside town....?
It isn't that far from town, and was the only viable location after exhaustive considerations of other sites. The main problem is that too much is relied on Falmer station (far from the most significant one on the Southern Railway). When the trains are running as per normal schedule, getting from Brighton (or Lewes) to Falmer is straightforward, and the trains are not over-full on the outward journey because those attending the AMEX tend to stagger their arrival times. However, at the end of matches, most will wish to return to Brighton, and this leads to massive congestion. Crystal Palace fans wishing to return to Croydon - almost inevitably via Brighton - are an additional problem in any event.

Appreciate that but I’ve been to the Amex and it was in the middle of nowhere. It was absolutely horrendous getting to and from the ground
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Fri 09 Sep 2022 12:01
Now that the rail strikes have been called off, can we assume that the game will be reinstated? Act in haste.....
Title: Re: Brighton v Palace
Post by: bmb on Fri 09 Sep 2022 12:31
Now that the rail strikes have been called off, can we assume that the game will be reinstated? Act in haste.....

Probably not because it's highly likely all games that weekend will also be postponed due the Queen's funeral.