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General Refereeing => Referee / Match Official Appointments => Cup Appointments => Topic started by: flipmode on Mon 30 May 2022 05:42
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Please post all appointments for the Carabao Cup 2022/2023 in this thread.
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Tue 2nd Aug 2022
Cambridge United FC (First Team) v Millwall FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Breakspear, Charles
Assistant Referee: Butler, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Kelly, Paul
Fourth Official: Pollard, Chris
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Tue 9th Aug 2022
Accrington Stanley FC (First Team) v Tranmere Rovers FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Lewis, Robert
Assistant Referee: Woodward, Daniel
Assistant Referee: Brown, Conor
Fourth Official: Marsden, Paul
AFC Wimbledon (First Team) v Gillingham FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Hicks, Craig
Assistant Referee: Bandara, Damith
Assistant Referee: Yates, Paul
Fourth Official: Dale, Alan
Blackpool FC (First Team) v Barrow AFC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Speedie, Benjamin
Assistant Referee: Barnard, Nik
Assistant Referee: Simpson, Joe
Fourth Official: Smallwood, Billy
Bolton Wanderers FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Brooks, John
Assistant Referee: Aspinall, Natalie
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Fourth Official: Wright, Peter
Bradford City FC (First Team) v Hull City (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Stockbridge, Sebastian
Assistant Referee: Clayton, Simon
Assistant Referee: Ward, Christopher
Fourth Official: Toner, Ben
Cardiff City FC (First Team) v Portsmouth FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Swabey, Lee
Assistant Referee: Husband, Christopher
Assistant Referee: Harty, Thomas
Fourth Official: Derrien, Mark
Charlton Athletic FC (First Team) v Queens Park Rangers FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Fourth Official: Young, Alan
Cheltenham Town (First Team) v Exeter City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Finnie, Will
Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie Durnall, Steve
Assistant Referee: Khan, Abbas
Fourth Official: Ogles, Samuel Durkin, James
Crawley Town (First Team) v Bristol Rovers (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Rock, David
Assistant Referee: Maskell, Garry
Assistant Referee: Dunn, Nicholas
Fourth Official: Benn, Lisa
Doncaster Rovers FC (First Team) v Lincoln City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Backhouse, Anthony
Assistant Referee: Fyvie, Graeme
Assistant Referee: Bickle, Oliver
Fourth Official: Miles, Jacob Jackson, Scott
Fleetwood Town FC (First Team) v Wigan Athletic FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Salisbury, Michael
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Reeves, Tom
Forest Green Rovers (First Team) v Leyton Orient FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Oldham, James
Assistant Referee: Howick, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Flynn, Daniel
Fourth Official: Wootton, Dale
Grimsby Town FC (First Team) v Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Herczeg, Adam
Assistant Referee: George, Michael
Assistant Referee: Freeman, Lee
Fourth Official: Wade, Stephen
Harrogate Town FC (First Team) v Stockport County FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Kirk, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Woodward, Richard
Assistant Referee: Grunnill, Wayne
Fourth Official: Stankovic, Ivan
Huddersfield Town FC (First Team) v Preston North End FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Joyce, Ross
Assistant Referee: Mulraine, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Moore, Anthony
Fourth Official: Wigglesworth, Richard
Ipswich Town F.C. (First Team) v Colchester United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Purkiss, Sam
Assistant Referee: Crowhurst, Leigh
Assistant Referee: Farrell, Conor
Fourth Official: Kelly, Paul
Luton Town (First Team) v Newport County AFC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Yates, Ollie
Assistant Referee: Bonneywell, Daniel
Assistant Referee: Chard, Michael Stokes, Joseph
Fourth Official: Stokes, Joseph
Mansfield Town F.C. (First Team) v Derby County FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Kitchen, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Rashid, Lisa
Assistant Referee: Stonier, Paul
Fourth Official: Jackson, Scott Cooper, Nicholas
Milton Keynes Dons FC (First Team) v Sutton United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Breakspear, Charles
Assistant Referee: Whitaker, Ryan
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Andy
Fourth Official: Butler, Stuart
Morecambe FC (First Team) v Stoke City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Haines, Andy
Assistant Referee: Edwards, Helen
Assistant Referee: Newhouse, Paul
Fourth Official: Gray, Alex
Northampton Town FC (First Team) v Wycombe Wanderers FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Nield, Tom
Assistant Referee: Finch, Stephen
Assistant Referee: Karaivanov, Hristo
Fourth Official: Byrne, Abigail
Norwich City FC (First Team) v Birmingham City F C (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Barrott, Samuel
Assistant Referee: Brown, Stephen
Assistant Referee: Cook, Daniel
Fourth Official: Da Costa, Anthony
Oxford United (First Team) v Swansea City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon Wilkes, Matthew
Fourth Official: Middleton, Daniel
Reading FC (First Team) v Stevenage FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Brook, Carl
Assistant Referee: Vallance, James
Assistant Referee: Morris, Richard
Fourth Official: Dowle, Kirsty
Rochdale AFC (First Team) v Burton Albion FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Oldham, Scott
Assistant Referee: Jones, Mark
Assistant Referee: Topp, Jake
Fourth Official: Antrobus, Blake
Shrewsbury Town FC (First Team) v Carlisle United (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Pollard, Chris
Assistant Referee: Ricketts, Adam
Assistant Referee: Clench, Jack
Fourth Official: Taylor, Grant
Walsall FC (First Team) v Swindon Town FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Parsons, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Morris, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Plane, Steven
Fourth Official: Durnall, Steve Jackson, Aaron
Wed 10th Aug 2022
Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team) v Hartlepool United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bell, James
Assistant Referee: Hodskinson, Paul
Assistant Referee: Dwyer, Mark
Fourth Official: Bond, Darren
Coventry City FC (First Team) v Bristol City (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Wright, Peter
Assistant Referee: Wade, Stephen Raper, Lewis
Assistant Referee: Da Costa, Anthony
Fourth Official: Husband, Christopher
MIDDLESBROUGH (First Team) v Barnsley FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Toner, Ben
Assistant Referee: Stankovic, Ivan
Assistant Referee: Wigglesworth, Richard
Fourth Official: Fyvie, Graeme
Plymouth Argyle FC (First Team) v Peterborough United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Young, Alan
Assistant Referee: Wade, Christopher
Assistant Referee: O'Shea, Declan
Fourth Official: Durkin, James Ogles, Samuel
Port Vale FC (First Team) v Rotherham United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Madden, Robert
Assistant Referee: Smallwood, Billy
Assistant Referee: Antrobus, Blake
Fourth Official: Morris, Kevin
Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team) v Sunderland AFC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Reeves, Tom
Assistant Referee: Taylor, Grant
Assistant Referee: Raper, Lewis Wade, Stephen
Fourth Official: Kirk, Thomas
Thu 11th Aug 2022
West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Sheffield United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Webb, David
Assistant Referee: Dallison, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Stevens, Mark
Fourth Official: Simpson, Jeremy
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Strange that Premier league officials are being used in the first round
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Strange that Premier league officials are being used in the first round
That is strange although maybe it is a good thing as i believe all of the one's selected don't have a game on the weekend before these games.
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Wonder when Fleetwood or Salford last had SG1 referees?
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Bramall with the cream of the elite ARs in the PL.
Natalie Aspinall senior to Perry at Bolton with John Brooks. SG1 pending for her?
aaaaaaand…. Alan Young working with SG1 officials…. I’m sure Whistleblower has just spilt his exclusive whisky in shock.
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Bramall with the cream of the elite ARs in the PL.
Natalie Aspinall senior to Perry at Bolton with John Brooks. SG1 pending for her?
She was promoted in the summer.
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Bramall with the cream of the elite ARs in the PL.
Natalie Aspinall senior to Perry at Bolton with John Brooks. SG1 pending for her?
She was promoted in the summer.
I stand corrected. I must have missed that bit on the promotion thread. Many thanks!
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Joyce and barrott with decent games. Nice Derby for kitchen derby Mansfield could be tasty 👍
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Stockbridge and Reeves with the tv offerings….
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Charles Breakspear with two games in the same round along with Stuart Butler?
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Paul Kelly has a 2nd game (as 4th) and Chris Pollard a middle - so all 4 on double bubble
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First red card of the season for Charles Breakspear tonight.
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First red card of the season for Charles Breakspear tonight.
Yep Charlie is up and running for the season..
I reckon it’s between him, Mather and Young in the race for the top of the EFL card statistics this season.
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Red card was spot on! And only 1 other yellow too!
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Oxford United (First Team) v Swansea City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Middleton, Daniel
I assume Simon will be replaced as he won't be in the country
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Oxford United (First Team) v Swansea City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Middleton, Daniel
I assume Simon will be replaced as he won't be in the country
Bramall with the cream of the elite ARs in the PL.
Replacing him Gary Beswick would be fair.
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Oxford United (First Team) v Swansea City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Middleton, Daniel
I assume Simon will be replaced as he won't be in the country
Replaced by Matthew Wilkes.
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Also would assume Dan Cook and Wade Smith will be replaced as in European action with Peter Bankes
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Also would assume Dan Cook and Wade Smith will be replaced as in European action with Peter Bankes
Wade Smith for a FIFA Badge? Dan Robathon should be next on the list for me though
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Also would assume Dan Cook and Wade Smith will be replaced as in European action with Peter Bankes
Dan Cook is still on his game as far as I know.
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Strange that Premier league officials are being used in the first round
SG2 have got a training camp Tue and Wed so they aren’t available
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Mr Breakspear managed the only cards clean sheet of the evening on Tuesday!
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Tuesday 23rd August 2022
Barrow v Lincoln City (19:45)
SIMON MATHER
Anthony Moore Mark Cunliffe and Simon Clayton
Fourth Official : Marc Edwards
Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa (19:45)
ANDREW KITCHEN
Christopher Ward and Conor Brown
Fourth Official : Thomas Kirk
Bradford City v Blackburn Rovers (19:45)
ROSS JOYCE
Declan Ford and Nik Barnard
Fourth Official : Rebecca Welch
Cambridge United v Southampton (19:45)
DAVID ROCK
Michael Chard Abbas Khan and Garry Maskell
Fourth Official : Alan Young
Colchester United v Brentford (19:45)
JAMES LININGTON
Akil Howson and Daniel Leach
Fourth Official : Gavin Ward
Crawley Town v Fulham (19:45)
LEE SWABEY
Daniel Bonneywell and Stephen Finch
Fourth Official : Charles Breakspear
Derby County v West Bromwich Albion (19:45)
ROBERT MADLEY
Ian Cooper and Jonathan Hunt
Fourth Official : Darren Bond
Fleetwood Town v Everton (19:45)
TOM REEVES
David Avent and Bradley Hall
Fourth Official : Andy Haines
Gillingham v Exeter City (19:45)
CARL BROOK
Daniel Cook and Nicholas Cooper
Fourth Official : Craig Hicks
Grimsby Town v Nottingham Forest (19:45)
SEBASTIAN STOCKBRIDGE
Wayne Grunnill and Paul Stonier
Fourth Official : Darren Drysdale
Newport County v Portsmouth (19:45)
JOHN BUSBY
Adam Crysell and James Wilson
Fourth Official : Sam Allison
Norwich City v AFC Bournemouth (19:45)
MICHAEL SALISBURY
Neil Davies and Steven Meredith
Fourth Official : Stephen Martin
Oxford United v Crystal Palace (19:45)
PETER BANKES
Edward Smart and Nick Greenhalgh
Fourth Official : James Bell
Rotherham United v Morecambe (19:45)
PETER WRIGHT
Stephen Wade and Richard Wigglesworth
Fourth Official : James Oldham
Sheffield Wednesday v Rochdale (19:30)
BEN TONER
Matthew Parry and Steven Rushton Wilson, Marc
Fourth Official : Scott Oldham
Shrewsbury Town v Burnley (19:45)
ROBERT MADDEN
Lisa Rashid and Oliver Bickle
Fourth Official : Benjamin Speedie
Stevenage v Peterborough United (19:45)
CHRIS POLLARD
Damith Bandara and Dean Treleaven
Fourth Official : Sunny Gill
Stockport County v Leicester City (19:45)
SAMUEL BARROTT
Johnathon Bickerdike and Lee Freeman
Fourth Official : Robert Lewis
Walsall v Charlton Athletic (19:45)
OLLIE YATES
Kevin Howick and Grant Taylor
Fourth Official : Will Finnie
Watford v Milton Keynes Dons (19:45)
DEAN WHITESTONE ANDY WOOLMER
Mark Stevens and Bhupinder Gill
Fourth Official : Keith Stroud
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Preston North End (19:45)
THOMAS BRAMALL
James Mainwaring and Wade Smith
Fourth Official : Leigh Doughty
Wednesday 24th August 2022
Forest Green Rovers v Brighton & Hove Albion (19:45)
TIM ROBINSON
Andrew Fox and Craig Taylor
Fourth Official : Oliver Langford
Leeds United v Barnsley (19:45)
JOHN BROOKS
Nick Hopton and Daniel Robathan
Fourth Official : Jeremy Simpson
Tranmere Rovers v Newcastle United (19:45)
ANTHONY BACKHOUSE
Christopher Husband and Thomas Harty
Fourth Official : Martin Woods
Wycombe Wanderers v Bristol City (19:45)
ANDY DAVIES
George Byrne and Greg Read
Fourth Official : Leigh Doughty
Taken from EFL website.
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TV games for Kitchen and Backhouse….
No surprise Leeds v Barnsley has gone SG1, and good to see NL officials mixing with PL teams..
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Tuesday 23rd August 2022
Barrow v Lincoln City (19:45)
SIMON MATHER
Anthony Moore and Simon Clayton
Fourth Official : Marc Edwards
Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa (19:45)
ANDREW KITCHEN
Christopher Ward and Conor Brown
Fourth Official : Thomas Kirk
Bradford City v Blackburn Rovers (19:45)
ROSS JOYCE
Declan Ford and Nik Barnard
Fourth Official : Rebecca Welch
Cambridge United v Southampton (19:45)
DAVID ROCK
Michael Chard and Garry Maskell
Fourth Official : Alan Young
Colchester United v Brentford (19:45)
JAMES LININGTON
Akil Howson and Daniel Leach
Fourth Official : Gavin Ward
Crawley Town v Fulham (19:45)
LEE SWABEY
Daniel Bonneywell and Stephen Finch
Fourth Official : Charles Breakspear
Derby County v West Bromwich Albion (19:45)
ROBERT MADLEY
Ian Cooper and Jonathan Hunt
Fourth Official : Darren Bond
Fleetwood Town v Everton (19:45)
TOM REEVES
David Avent and Bradley Hall
Fourth Official : Andy Haines
Gillingham v Exeter City (19:45)
CARL BROOK
Daniel Cook and Nicholas Cooper
Fourth Official : Craig Hicks
Grimsby Town v Nottingham Forest (19:45)
SEBASTIAN STOCKBRIDGE
Wayne Grunnill and Paul Stonier
Fourth Official : Darren Drysdale
Newport County v Portsmouth (19:45)
JOHN BUSBY
Adam Crysell and James Wilson
Fourth Official : Sam Allison
Norwich City v AFC Bournemouth (19:45)
MICHAEL SALISBURY
Neil Davies and Steven Meredith
Fourth Official : Stephen Martin
Oxford United v Crystal Palace (19:45)
PETER BANKES
Edward Smart and Nick Greenhalgh
Fourth Official : James Bell
Rotherham United v Morecambe (19:45)
PETER WRIGHT
Stephen Wade and Richard Wigglesworth
Fourth Official : James Oldham
Sheffield Wednesday v Rochdale (19:30)
BEN TONER
Matthew Parry and Steven Rushton
Fourth Official : Scott Oldham
Shrewsbury Town v Burnley (19:45)
ROBERT MADDEN
Lisa Rashid and Oliver Bickle
Fourth Official : Benjamin Speedie
Stevenage v Peterborough United (19:45)
CHRIS POLLARD
Damith Bandara and Dean Treleaven
Fourth Official : Sunny Gill
Stockport County v Leicester City (19:45)
SAMUEL BARROTT
Johnathon Bickerdike and Lee Freeman
Fourth Official : Robert Lewis
Walsall v Charlton Athletic (19:45)
OLLIE YATES
Kevin Howick and Grant Taylor
Fourth Official : Will Finnie
Watford v Milton Keynes Dons (19:45)
DEAN WHITESTONE
Mark Stevens and Bhupinder Gill
Fourth Official : Keith Stroud
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Preston North End (19:45)
THOMAS BRAMALL
James Mainwaring and Wade Smith
Fourth Official : Leigh Doughty
Wednesday 24th August 2022
Forest Green Rovers v Brighton & Hove Albion (19:45)
TIM ROBINSON
Andrew Fox and Craig Taylor
Fourth Official : Oliver Langford
Leeds United v Barnsley (19:45)
JOHN BROOKS
Nick Hopton and Daniel Robathan
Fourth Official : Jeremy Simpson
Tranmere Rovers v Newcastle United (19:45)
ANTHONY BACKHOUSE
Christopher Husband and Thomas Harty
Fourth Official : Martin Woods
Wycombe Wanderers v Bristol City (19:45)
ANDY DAVIES
George Byrne and Greg Read
Fourth Official : Leigh Doughty
Taken from EFL website.
Isn't unfair on Tom Bramall that he has to ref Bristol City vs Cardiff on the 21st and then a carabao cup game on the 23rd?
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salisbury,banks and Bramall and brooks-our sg1s are out but many are sg2s
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Dan cook went off injured at the Gillingham game and was replaced by Craig hicks on the line, long time since he has run the line!
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Hope it's nothing serious
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Dan cook went off injured at the Gillingham game and was replaced by Craig hicks on the line, long time since he has run the line!
Just to caveat, that's the Essex based Dan Cook who operates on the EFL as opposed to the Hampshire based Dan Cook who is on SG1. Thought I'd try to head off any possible confusion.
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Too late! Panicked text already sent! 😞
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Hicks was promoted to FL refs list in 2017 havinhlg had 4 seasons on NL/conf, so depending on when his "specialism" kicked in, its definitely 5 years, potentially 10.
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Sorry Bmb should of put NL Dan Cook
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I’m sure the card shark from the Wirral is in attendance at the game tonight!
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Sorry Bmb should of put NL Dan Cook
That’s ok! I got laughed at !!
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Third Round
Tue 8th Nov 2022
AFC Bournemouth (First Team) v Everton FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: England, Darren
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
Fourth Official: Gill, Sunny (Sukhvir)
Brentford FC (First Team) v Gillingham FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Robinson, Tim
Assistant Referee: Kane, Graham
Assistant Referee: Gill, Bhupinder
Fourth Official: Brook, Carl
Bristol City (First Team) v Lincoln City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Allison, Sam
Assistant Referee: Lugg, Nigel
Assistant Referee: Ogles, Samuel
Fourth Official: Hooper, Simon
Burnley FC (First Team) v Crawley Town (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Barrott, Samuel
Assistant Referee: Karaivanov, Hristo
Assistant Referee: Khan, Abbas
Fourth Official: Eltringham, Geoff
Leicester City FC (First Team) v Newport County AFC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Madley, Robert Bond, Darren
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: Aspinall, Natalie
Fourth Official: Stockbridge, Sebastian
Milton Keynes Dons FC (First Team) v Morecambe FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Toner, Ben
Assistant Referee: Rashid, Lisa
Assistant Referee: Morris, Richard Taylor, Grant
Fourth Official: Rock, David
Stevenage FC (First Team) v Charlton Athletic FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Nield, Tom
Assistant Referee: James, Alex
Assistant Referee: Amey, Justin
Fourth Official: Reeves, Tom
Wed 9th Nov 2022
Arsenal (First Team) v Brighton & Hove Albion FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Assistant Referee: West, Richard Meredith, Steven
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Liverpool FC (First Team) v Derby County FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Harrington, Tony
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun
Fourth Official: Webb, David
Manchester City FC (First Team) v Chelsea (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Hooper, Simon
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Fourth Official: Tierney, Paul
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Scott, Graham
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Fourth Official: Bond, Darren
Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team) v Tottenham Hotspur (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Fourth Official: Salisbury, Michael
Southampton FC (First Team) v Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Brooks, John
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Stevens, Mark
Fourth Official: Allison, Sam
West Ham United (First Team) v Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Fourth Official: Linington, James
Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Marriner, Andre
Assistant Referee: Wilkes, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Howson, Akil
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Thu 10th Nov 2022
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Aston Villa FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Coote, David
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Fourth Official: Salisbury, Michael
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Sam Barrott for the first time- heard good things about him.
R.Madley got a premier league side too.
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Hooper’s game an obvious standout, even if likely to be weakened teams. Good to see Harrington at Anfield, and Robinson and Madley Jnr with PL teams.
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Another good and deserved game for Simon Hooper
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See Rob Jones involved in another Leeds game,
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Oh dear Coote for our trip to Old Trafford.
Pleased to see Hooper with another heavyweight clash, even if it wont be their best elevens.
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NL Sam Allison in the middle at Bristol City with SG1 Simon Hooper as 4O. A sign of things to come perhaps? Both from Swindon I believe.
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Sam Barrott for the first time- heard good things about him.
R.Madley got a premier league side too.
Agree re Sam Barrott, seems though mr r madley is out of action this coming week and weekend.
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Just to confirm but there is no VAR in this round? Even at PL grounds. Just checking thanks.
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Sam Barrett. Rather easy game to referee but impressed with his fitness, decision making and consistency.
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Fourth Round - Tue 20th – Thu 22nd DEC 2022
Tue 20th Dec 2022
Milton Keynes Dons FC (First Team) v Leicester City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Marriner, Andre
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Fourth Official: Robinson, Tim
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v AFC Bournemouth (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bankes, Peter Brooks, John
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Fourth Official: Oldham, Scott
Southampton FC (First Team) v Lincoln City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Assistant Referee: Aspinall, Natalie
Fourth Official: Breakspear, Charles
Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (First Team) v Gillingham FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Salisbury, Michael
Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Assistant Referee: Stevens, Mark
Fourth Official: Welch, Rebecca
Wed 21st Dec 2022
Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team) v Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Jones, Robert
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: Howson, Akil
Fourth Official: Stockbridge, Sebastian
Charlton Athletic FC (First Team) v Brighton & Hove Albion FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
Fourth Official: Ward, Gavin
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Burnley FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Scott, Graham
Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Fourth Official: Bond, Darren
Thu 22nd Dec 2022
Manchester City FC (First Team) v Liverpool FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Coote, David
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Fourth Official: Tierney, Paul
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Liverpool fans are not big fans of Coote as most associate him with the Merseyside Derby Var fiasco where he as VAR missed the clear red card for Pickford so this is an interesting one. His performances gave merited a big game this season tho!
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David Coote! Dear God. On what planet does he deserve this. The worst referee in the league with the biggest tie of the round, what a joke.
Liverpool fans are not big fans of Coote as most associate him with the Merseyside Derby Var fiasco where he as VAR missed the clear red card for Pickford so this is an interesting one. His performances gave merited a big game this season tho!
It’s not even just that game, it’s almost every Liverpool game Coote has been involved in. Tierney doesn’t exactly have a good reputation either.
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David Coote! Dear God. On what planet does he deserve this. The worst referee in the league with the biggest tie of the round, what a joke.
Liverpool fans are not big fans of Coote as most associate him with the Merseyside Derby Var fiasco where he as VAR missed the clear red card for Pickford so this is an interesting one. His performances gave merited a big game this season tho!
It’s not even just that game, it’s almost every Liverpool game Coote has been involved in. Tierney doesn’t exactly have a good reputation either.
Coote has been much better this year and has improved a lot. Tierney has also been much better this year. I do think Coote was next in line for a big game. Only other option would've been Gillett if giving to less experienced refs
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David Coote! Dear God. On what planet does he deserve this. The worst referee in the league with the biggest tie of the round, what a joke.
I am not sure that I would agree that a match between two reserve teams is the biggest of the round.
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Graham scott give me strength
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John Brooks seems to be at Newcastle now rather than Peter Bankes.
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David Coote! Dear God. On what planet does he deserve this. The worst referee in the league with the biggest tie of the round, what a joke.
I am not sure that I would agree that a match between two reserve teams is the biggest of the round.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see strong team selections, seeing it’s the first competitive game for over a month
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Newcastle Vs AFC Bournemouth has changed Peter bankes has picked up a knock and John brooks has replaced him
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Still peter bankes according to bbc.
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Still peter bankes according to bbc.
They would be using the PA that don't always have the latest changes.
John Brooks is the referee on the teamsheet.
https://twitter.com/milesstarforth/status/1605273704929304582?s=20&t=bITZwRICCCMpCxGfE9NL5Q
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Still peter bankes according to bbc.
The BBC are rubbish at picking up on referee changes, they very rarely notice haha.
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Neil Davies what a disgrace
Care to elaborate?
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Quarter Finals
Tue 10th Jan 2023
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Charlton Athletic FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Fourth Official: Bramall, Thomas
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v Leicester City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: England, Darren
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Wed 11th Jan 2023
Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team) v Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Scott, Graham
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Salisbury, Michael
Southampton FC (First Team) v Manchester City FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Fourth Official: Brooks, John
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V gd appointments
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Happy with these appointments apart from the timings
Both Jarred Gillet and Neil Davies, along with Dan Robathan are all in action Sunday afternoon them back in action 48 hours latern
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Glad Gillett and England have got QFs.
I know we discuss it every year but not sure why they don't just use VAR considering all 4 games are at PL grounds.
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Only realising now extremely quick turnaround for Gillett with FA cup on Sunday afternoon and carabao tonight
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He was fine according to MEN. Much better performance from England as well tonight
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Semi Finals - First Leg
Tue 24th Jan 2023
Southampton FC (First Team) v Newcastle United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Bramall, Thomas
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Wed 25th Jan 2023
Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team) v Manchester United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Oliver, Michael
Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Hooper, Simon
Video Assistant Referee: Bankes, Peter
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
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Semi Finals - First Leg
Tue 24th Jan 2023
Southampton FC (First Team) v Newcastle United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Bramall, Thomas
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Wed 25th Jan 2023
Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team) v Manchester United FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Oliver, Michael
Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Hooper, Simon
Video Assistant Referee: Bankes, Peter
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
No surprises there. I'd suggest Pawson and Taylor for the other legs.
A year ago I would've said Kavanagh nailed on for the final but now it's highly unlikely. Hooper or Madley? Surely!
Wont be Taylor as off to the club World Cup in Morocco
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On current form I would say Jones or Gillett and Pawson for the second legs and Hooper for the final
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On current form I would say Jones or Gillett and Pawson for the second legs and Hooper for the final
Whilst i dont disagree with your suggestions i wouldnt rule out Coote for the final or a very outside possibility Scott.
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On current form I would say Jones or Gillett and Pawson for the second legs and Hooper for the final
Certainly good options. I would maybe add Tierney. I think Pawson and Tierney have had the Final previously so either for a second SF leg would be possible.
The only other name that comes to mind is Darren England.
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On current form I would say Jones or Gillett and Pawson for the second legs and Hooper for the final
Whilst i dont disagree with your suggestions i wouldnt rule out Coote for the final or a very outside possibility Scott.
I have to say whenever I watch live games on tv, I get the impression the ever present Graham Scott must carry his boards around England with him. Perhaps that will be his role in the Final?
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First time that Oliver has polished off the Football League badge this season?
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2nd Legs
Tue 31st Jan 2023
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Tierney, Paul
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: England, Darren
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Wed 1st Feb 2023
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Fourth Official: Scott, Graham
Video Assistant Referee: Salisbury, Michael
Additional Video Assistant Referee: West, Richard
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2nd Legs
Tue 31st Jan 2023
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Tierney, Paul
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: England, Darren
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Wed 1st Feb 2023
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team)
EFL Cup
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Fourth Official: Scott, Graham
Video Assistant Referee: Salisbury, Michael
Additional Video Assistant Referee: West, Richard
MR Hooper for the final with any luck after these appointments
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Predictable appointments in my view, given the state of the ties. I wish Paul and Peter and their teams all the best for their games. Darren England or Simon Hooper for the Final, assuming Darren doesn't have any problems with his VAR role?
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I'm a bit surprised at Bankes' appointment. I wonder if he'd have got the game if it had finished 0-0 last night.
I'll guess A Madley for the final, but I think Hooper/Coote are also possibilities.
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No surprise with Tierney but there is with Bankes ahead of Madley, Jones, Gillett or Pawson. Even with the 3-0 scoreline especially how Bankes was on VAR for the first leg.
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I'm a bit surprised at Bankes' appointment. I wonder if he'd have got the game if it had finished 0-0 last night.
I'll guess A Madley for the final, but I think Hooper/Coote are also possibilities.
If Coote gets the final over all of Hooper, Madley, Gillett, England, Jones, or even Scott.........
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Of current SG1 referees Taylor, Oliver, Marriner, Pawson, Tierney and Attwell have all done the League Cup Final. It would appear to be between Graham Scott and Simon Hooper for this season.
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Speaking of the refs, but what about the assistants, who do you think AR wise should get it?
I think James Mainwaring, Lee Betts and Tim Wood deserve it
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Not sure if they have had it but I would say possibly Scott Ledger & Ian Hussin
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Cook, Robathan, Betts x2, Hatzidakis, Hussin, Lennard, Perry, Beswick, Nunn, West, Burt x2, Bennett, Holmes, Long, Ledger, Cann have all done it
Leaves Hopton, Davies, Scholes, Eaton, Wilkes, Mainwiring, Smith, Smart, Greenhalgh, Aspinall and Massey-Ellis
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Smart definitely and possibly either scholes or Hopton. If Kavanagh wasn’t injured I would have said him. I think it will be Coote
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I'm a bit surprised at Bankes' appointment. I wonder if he'd have got the game if it had finished 0-0 last night.
I'll guess A Madley for the final, but I think Hooper/Coote are also possibilities.
If Coote gets the final over all of Hooper, Madley, Gillett, England, Jones, or even Scott.........
Couldn’t agree with you more. A mediocre ref at best whose performances in recent weeks especially have left a lot to be desired. The fact that he is even being touted as a possibility for the final is indicative of the standard of refereeing at present
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Of current SG1 referees Taylor, Oliver, Marriner, Pawson, Tierney and Attwell have all done the League Cup Final. It would appear to be between Graham Scott and Simon Hooper for this season.
If it were to be Scott i wonder if that would influence him to hang up his whistle at the end of the season.
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UEFA referee seminar takes place over the next few days. Rules out Oliver, Pawson, Jones, Brooks and Gillett and Attwell. With Taylor already out, hence why Bankes probably has the game along with Tierney
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UEFA referee seminar takes place over the next few days. Rules out Oliver, Pawson, Jones, Brooks and Gillett and Attwell. With Taylor already out, hence why Bankes probably has the game along with Tierney
Only Pawson & Attwell on the list
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There is also newbies meeting as well
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There is also newbies meeting as well
Oliver won't be on that one. The others probably are though. No idea why Oliver not on the list for the elite one, is he refereeing away somewhere?
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UEFA referee seminar takes place over the next few days. Rules out Oliver, Pawson, Jones, Brooks and Gillett and Attwell. With Taylor already out, hence why Bankes probably has the game along with Tierney
Similar dates for uefa seminar in 2020 resulted in Mike Dean refereeing a leg of each semi final.
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Surprised the Cup Final appointment has not been made by now. It was made on this day last year.
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Just been announced
Referee: David Coote
Assistant referee: Nick Hopton
Assistant referee: Tim Wood
Fourth Official: Simon Hooper
Additional assistant referee: Nick Greenhalgh
VAR: Peter Bankers
AVAR: Eddie Smart
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A lot of people already complaining about it on Twitter but my team ain’t in it so I’m not bothered although he refereed us last week dreading the worse and he was slight actually
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Hooper may as well end his career now then he’s been absolutely robbed by someone who’s incompetent most weeks
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Well that’s surprised me so much I dropped my phone whilst reading the announcement.
Anyway, I think it’s worth congratulating the team appointed.
I hope Hooper is in line for the FA Cup final now.
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Just been announced
Referee: David Coote
Assistant referee: Nick Hopton
Assistant referee: Tim Wood
Fourth Official: Simon Hooper
Additional assistant referee: Nick Greenhalgh
VAR: Peter Bankers
AVAR: Eddie Smart
Oh my god that is scandalous. Absolutely scandalous. I actually can't believe it. He doesn't deserve this based off his performances, and there is certainly others who do. I hope he does well, but terrible decision by those in power!
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Good luck to the team 3. well how many truthfully saw that coming. I can think of one or two others who must wonder what they have to do and are feeling cheated
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First of all I am disappointed that Hooper doesn't get the middle for this Final but he has done very well to be appointed as 4th Official.
I shall now be very careful in what I write. My opinion is that Coote does not receive this appointment because of refereeing excellence. The powers that be clearly wish to reward him with appointments which, to my way of thinking, are beyond what his on field performances seem to warrant. Why that should be is matter of conjecture and speculation about which I have an opinion though I will keep it strictly to myself.
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Well that’s surprised me so much I dropped my phone whilst reading the announcement.
Anyway, I think it’s worth congratulating the team appointed.
I hope Hooper is in line for the FA Cup final now.
I would be delighted to see Hooper get the FA Cup Final but I think it most unlikely. I can't really see anyone other than Attwell and A Madley getting it and I would rate them at evens.
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Good luck to all and let’s hope it’s a good game!
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I really feel for Hooper on this occasion , it wouldn’t be so bad if he was beaten to it by someone who’s performances merited such an appointment , I’m afraid Coote doesn’t fall into that category. Hope it goes well for Coote and team though
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Congratulations to team ref. Hope they put in a brilliant performance.
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Just been announced
Referee: David Coote
Assistant referee: Nick Hopton
Assistant referee: Tim Wood
Fourth Official: Simon Hooper
Additional assistant referee: Nick Greenhalgh
VAR: Peter Bankers
AVAR: Eddie Smart
First of all congratulations to team ref on their appointments, i would have rather have seen Hooper in the middle but i guess i was right earlier in the thread back in jan to say i wouldnt rule Coote out of getting the final.
I shall now be very careful in what I write. My opinion is that Coote does not receive this appointment because of refereeing excellence. The powers that be clearly wish to reward him with appointments which, to my way of thinking, are beyond what his on field performances seem to warrant. Why that should be is matter of conjecture and speculation about which I have an opinion though I will keep it strictly to myself.
Uefa badges to come to mind.
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As Newcastle Fan I’m No happy about the appointments was hoping for Gillet or Taylor or Atwell or Hooper as referee, I’m happy that Peter bankes is on the VAR
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And cootes history with Newcastle matches too
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I'm probably a bit more relaxed about the refereeing appointment than some.
At the start of the season, I'd have envisaged Kavanagh for the EFL Cup final but he's not had enough appointments to make that viable and has only just returned.
I mentioned Coote/Hooper/Madley as being possibilities in a recent thread. In a sense, I'd say it was a bit earlier for any of them than would have been ideal but that's where we're at once you rule out those who've done it before.
I can't really comment on recent times but when Coote was an EFL referee he was good in quite a few matches that I saw and a few times not so good. I'd say there have been better referees promoted to SG1 but also worse.
In his first few seasons I'd say Coote did pretty well as a PL referee on-field - much less so as a VAR! I think he was promoted at the same time as Hooper and I'd certainly say Coote settled the quicker of the two. I wouldn't say Coote was outstanding but probably better than I expected at the time, and I'd say officials like Jones and A Madley maybe took a bit more time to settle subsequently in the PL.
It seems Hooper has improved a lot and done well in many of the higher profile games he's refereed this season. You could say that means he should get it just based on this season's form but as I say I do wonder if he'll benefit from another year or two of building up his experience. The same is probably true of A Madley, who seems to have struggled a little in some of his higher profile games this season, although I'm sure he'll be in a stronger position in the next few years.
I'd have more concerns about Bankes' appointment as VAR, who I've generally felt is one of weaker VARs in terms of when perceived mistakes occur.
For what it's worth, I think Attwell or Tierney will get the FA Cup final. I'd maybe make Attwell the slight favourite given he's still a FIFA referee.
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Well that’s surprised me so much I dropped my phone whilst reading the announcement.
Anyway, I think it’s worth congratulating the team appointed.
I hope Hooper is in line for the FA Cup final now.
I would be delighted to see Hooper get the FA Cup Final but I think it most unlikely. I can't really see anyone other than Attwell and A Madley getting it and I would rate them at evens.
Of course I have forgotten Tierney who stands an equal chance with the two referees I've already mentioned.
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Dear Dear what a shocking appointment. Both the VAR official and the referee are dreadful. In all honesty I hope they have a shocker.
Hooper/ Madley deserve it far more.
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Quite surprising to see Coote’s name, as I would’ve predicted Hooper or Madley before him, but good luck to him and his team!
Hooper has had an excellent season so can maybe feel a little disheartened, but I also think he shouldn’t worry too much. He is 40 years old (if Google is correct), and I think it’s safe to say he won’t become a FIFA listed referee after not making the latest list. This means he can hopefully just keep going about his business and picking up good/excellent appointments in the PL, and become someone they can rely on for some of the big games.
Of course anything can happen in football and you want to be given the finals whilst you’re in good form and as soon as possible, however based on this season, Hooper is destined for both EFL and FA Cup Final, and hopefully he can go on for many years, so he will have the chances to get finals in the future.
Also, I thought there might be an outside chance for Scott to get this game, only because I’m (perhaps wrongly) assuming he may retire at the season’s end, although his league appointments certainly wouldn’t match being given a final.
Once more, good luck to Coote.
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At a time when controversy needed to be avoided, mainstream media reporting the opposition by Newcastle fans of Cootes appointment, due to his "previous" love for Man Utd.
His previous decisions involving the two clubs along with the fact he is Manchester FA and that he has a fake photo of Old Trafford supposedly on his Facebook page doesn't help. He really shouldn't have this game in fact its a joke that he does.
With all this talk about Lee Mason being incompetent, Coote is even worse.
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At a time when controversy needed to be avoided, mainstream media reporting the opposition by Newcastle fans of Cootes appointment, due to his "previous" love for Man Utd.
His previous decisions involving the two clubs along with the fact he is Manchester FA and that he has a fake photo of Old Trafford supposedly on his Facebook page doesn't help. He really shouldn't have this game in fact its a joke that he does.
With all this talk about Lee Mason being incompetent, Coote is even worse.
From what I've heard, the fake Old Trafford picture stuff is, well, fake, in that there's no substance to it.
What controversial decisions has Coote been involved in in Manchester United and Newcastle United matches? I recall some criticism over the Chelsea V Newcastle game last season.
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At a time when controversy needed to be avoided, mainstream media reporting the opposition by Newcastle fans of Cootes appointment, due to his "previous" love for Man Utd.
His previous decisions involving the two clubs along with the fact he is Manchester FA and that he has a fake photo of Old Trafford supposedly on his Facebook page doesn't help. He really shouldn't have this game in fact its a joke that he does.
With all this talk about Lee Mason being incompetent, Coote is even worse.
From what I've heard, the fake Old Trafford picture stuff is, well, fake, in that there's no substance to it.
What controversial decisions has Coote been involved in in Manchester United and Newcastle United matches? I recall some criticism over the Chelsea V Newcastle game last season.
Yeah a penalty call and possible red card.
I’d say it was more the VAR on the day who failed to sent Coote to the screen.
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Does anyone know the names of the actual body of folk who make this appointment as I fear for their sanity?
As others have said a complete travesty of an appointment and one can only wonder if politics once again outweighs merit and competence.
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At a time when controversy needed to be avoided, mainstream media reporting the opposition by Newcastle fans of Cootes appointment, due to his "previous" love for Man Utd.
His previous decisions involving the two clubs along with the fact he is Manchester FA and that he has a fake photo of Old Trafford supposedly on his Facebook page doesn't help. He really shouldn't have this game in fact its a joke that he does.
With all this talk about Lee Mason being incompetent, Coote is even worse.
From what I've heard, the fake Old Trafford picture stuff is, well, fake, in that there's no substance to it.
What controversial decisions has Coote been involved in in Manchester United and Newcastle United matches? I recall some criticism over the Chelsea V Newcastle game last season.
Yeah a penalty call and possible red card.
I’d say it was more the VAR on the day who failed to sent Coote to the screen.
Also Coote needing VAR to send Sanchez off after bringing Wilson down while in on goal. Giving a soft penalty that day.
In terms of United there is the west brom game in the locdown year when he wrongly overturned his own penalty decision. Then gave United a lucky penalty. Also, I believe he VAR when Fernandes stood on Konsa and won a penalty.
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At a time when controversy needed to be avoided, mainstream media reporting the opposition by Newcastle fans of Cootes appointment, due to his "previous" love for Man Utd.
His previous decisions involving the two clubs along with the fact he is Manchester FA and that he has a fake photo of Old Trafford supposedly on his Facebook page doesn't help. He really shouldn't have this game in fact its a joke that he does.
With all this talk about Lee Mason being incompetent, Coote is even worse.
From what I've heard, the fake Old Trafford picture stuff is, well, fake, in that there's no substance to it.
What controversial decisions has Coote been involved in in Manchester United and Newcastle United matches? I recall some criticism over the Chelsea V Newcastle game last season.
Yeah a penalty call and possible red card.
I’d say it was more the VAR on the day who failed to sent Coote to the screen.
Also Coote needing VAR to send Sanchez off after bringing Wilson down while in on goal. Giving a soft penalty that day.
In terms of United there is the west brom game in the locdown year when he wrongly overturned his own penalty decision. Then gave United a lucky penalty. Also, I believe he VAR when Fernandes stood on Konsa and won a penalty.
As I said above, I am not really convinced by Coote as a VAR - indeed I'd question his VAR appointment to Arsenal V Man City tonight more than this one I think Peter Bankes was VAR for the Man Utd V West Brom game as it happens - again, I'm not sure Bankes is one of the stronger PL VARs.
I think if you went back far enough you could find cases for most referees where they were involved in controversail decisions affecting one of the two teams in a match but I don't think there's anything substantial enough here to make me think the appointment should have been avoided in that regard. If Coote was appointed VAR to a Merseyside Derby League Cup final then I'd probably agree that wasn't the smartest move. in t
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Well that’s surprised me so much I dropped my phone whilst reading the announcement.
Anyway, I think it’s worth congratulating the team appointed.
I hope Hooper is in line for the FA Cup final now.
I would be delighted to see Hooper get the FA Cup Final but I think it most unlikely. I can't really see anyone other than Attwell and A Madley getting it and I would rate them at evens.
Of course I have forgotten Tierney who stands an equal chance with the two referees I've already mentioned.
On the basis of Coote being awarded the League Cup Final, i am thinking Tierney to get the F.A.Cup Final, personally i would have gone Hooper for the first and Attwell fir the latter.
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Quite surprising to see Coote’s name, as I would’ve predicted Hooper or Madley before him, but good luck to him and his team!
Hooper has had an excellent season so can maybe feel a little disheartened, but I also think he shouldn’t worry too much. He is 40 years old (if Google is correct), and I think it’s safe to say he won’t become a FIFA listed referee after not making the latest list. This means he can hopefully just keep going about his business and picking up good/excellent appointments in the PL, and become someone they can rely on for some of the big games.
Of course anything can happen in football and you want to be given the finals whilst you’re in good form and as soon as possible, however based on this season, Hooper is destined for both EFL and FA Cup Final, and hopefully he can go on for many years, so he will have the chances to get finals in the future.
Also, I thought there might be an outside chance for Scott to get this game, only because I’m (perhaps wrongly) assuming he may retire at the season’s end, although his league appointments certainly wouldn’t match being given a final.
Once more, good luck to Coote.
It is an interesting one about wanting to get a final as soon as possible. You certainly won't want to be way beyond your peak and of course there is always the risk of injury/major loss of form/circumstances going against you etc.
But I guess if you went back to 2014 or 2015 you'd probably say Anthony Taylor or Michael Oliver were better referees at that stage than Lee Probert/Jon Moss who refereed those finals. But I think you could say Taylor/Oliver clearly were not at their peak yet and had a lot of potential for further development and so I think it was reasonable to give them a few more years until 2017 and 2018 respectively when they both refereed their relevant cup finals well.
I certainly think that Madley has the potential for further growth as he builds up his experience and hopefully that will be true of Hooper too, especially given how much he seems to have improved over the last year or two. That's why my gut instinct is this was perhaps a year or two too early for both of them.
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I recall a lot of adverse comment on RTR when Jon Moss was appointed to referee the 2015 FA Cup Final, but he actually had a very good game, as I witnessed for myself at Wembley. The same could be said about Rob Styles prior to the 2005 FA Cup Final which he refereed well. I tend to agree with Readingfan about Madley and Hooper and their time to come, and let's see how David Coote actually gets on with the EFL Final. I wish him and his team well.
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Dear Dear what a shocking appointment. Both the VAR official and the referee are dreadful. In all honesty I hope they have a shocker.
Hooper/ Madley deserve it far more.
I 100% agree it is a poor appointment, but I think that wishing that someone "has a shocker" is less than kind, and unwarranted.
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Although it's hard to see the appointment given on merit I hope he has a very good match because if he doesn't, it will be the two Clubs and their players as well as the paying supporters who will suffer and they are not responsible for the appointment.
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Although it's hard to see the appointment given on merit I hope he has a very good match because if he doesn't, it will be the two Clubs and their players as well as the paying supporters who will suffer and they are not responsible for the appointment.
May i remind you of a quote from former head of pgmol.
Quote “ Managing Director Mike Riley added “Just as importantly, I would like to express my gratitude to Peter and David who have volunteered to step down from the Men’s Referees List in order to create the opportunities for John, Jarred and Rob. This is incredibly selfless of them and typical of the values that make them the great ambassadors for refereeing that they are.”
Unquote.
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I think Coote’s “performance” yesterday summarises all we have been saying. Enough said.
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PGMOL confirm team will be wearing blue on Sunday.
Bmb can at least give a mark above 2 now
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All of you Coote bashers you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Call yourselves referees!!! It's Disgusting and Disgraceful. I know him personally and let me tell you now the fb page is fake and he is no man u fan. Let a referee enjoy his appointment and start looking at your own games past or present. It's Bullying and needs to be stopped as admins are how long they are letting this go on for too long and encouraging this behaviour is beyond me.
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Well said thesensibleone - I too have known David since he was 15. He used run the line to me. Then as he went through the system me to him. A well known Notts County supporter ever since I have known him. I have been watching David games from age 15. He was my RDO at Notts FA. He helped me and many other referees in Notts (and Manchester), to fulfil our potential as referees. I will be forever grateful. I class him as a true friend.
I agree some of these comments on here are bullying. Good luck on your final David, in my opinion this was received on merit. Premier league referees are appointed on merit. I know how hard he has had to work to achieve this level, the commitment it has taken. The real refereeing family appreciate good referees.
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Yes indeed, good luck in your Final Mr Coote, I hope the ball runs kindly for you but I for one will not be deflected from offering my opinions on a match official's performance and appointment because they happen to be a personal friend of someone.
If there has been comment that Coote is biased in favour of one of the teams in the Final then that is disgraceful and should rightly be called out.
If Coote has an excellent game tomorrow then I will gladly say so; if I think he has a stinker then then I won't hesitate to say so even if that causes his friends to call me a "basher"
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Whistleblower, I agreed with nearly everything you said, until you used the word “biased”. The most over used word to describe referees on here. Oh well, your are entitled to your opinion about biased referees even if it devalues your argument IMO.
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Refs1, I think you have misread WB's post.
At no point does he refer to DC's bias; in fact, calls out anyone who uses that as an argument.
I agree you dont get to SG1 if you are poor but is DC the best performing referee yet to do the game? IMHO NO!
I believe he has been rewarded for his actions away from the pitch.
This said, I hope all goes well as it does nothing to help any referees if all that is talked of after is him or indeed VAR.
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Refs1, I think you have misread WB's post.
At no point does he refer to DC's bias; in fact, calls out anyone who uses that as an argument.
I agree you dont get to SG1 if you are poor but is DC the best performing referee yet to do the game? IMHO NO!
I believe he has been rewarded for his actions away from the pitch.
This said, I hope all goes well as it does nothing to help any referees if all that is talked of after is him or indeed VAR.
Thank you for clarifying that RCG. For the avoidance of any doubt I was not accusing Coote or any referee of bias. I was in fact calling out unwarranted accusations of bias.
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All of you Coote bashers you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Call yourselves referees!!! It's Disgusting and Disgraceful. I know him personally and let me tell you now the fb page is fake and he is no man u fan. Let a referee enjoy his appointment and start looking at your own games past or present. It's Bullying and needs to be stopped as admins are how long they are letting this go on for too long and encouraging this behaviour is beyond me.
We are not encouraging anything, people are entitled to their opinions on certain officials, if they cross the line and become personal then we will intervene, bear in mind we cannot be on here all the time as we have lives of our own.
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Whistleblower apologies. Clearly I misread your post. Having read it again. I can 100% agree with your view now!
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Whistleblower apologies. Clearly I misread your post. Having read it again. I can 100% agree with your view now!
Thank you refs1. Re-reading my post I can see how the opposite interpretation to what I intended could quite reasonably be arrived at. Oh, the vagaries of English grammar, I shall endeavour to express myself more unequivocally in future .
I appreciate your apologies and assure you they are unnecessary.
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Whistleblower apologies. Clearly I misread your post. Having read it again. I can 100% agree with your view now!
Thank you refs1. Re-reading my post I can see how the opposite interpretation to what I intended could quite reasonably be arrived at. Oh, the vagaries of English grammar, I shall endeavour to express myself more unequivocally in future .
I appreciate your apologies and assure you they are unnecessary.
When one writes something down one always reads it as one thinks of it from their own perspective, it is always difficult to immediately see it from anothers perspective, i know i have fallen foul many times whistleblower. Oh the vagaries of the written word.
Is it say what you mean or mean what you say.
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Many thanks to Flipmode for being efficient and organised!