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Title: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: flipmode on Sun 29 May 2022 08:56
Please post all appointments for the UEFA Champions League 2022/2023 in this thread.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Sun 19 Jun 2022 10:51
Tuesday 21 jun 14.00
La Fiorita (SMR)v Inter Escaldes (AND)
Match info
Referee
Rohit Saggi NOR
Assistant Referees
Morten Jensen NOR
Isaak Elias Bashevkin NOR
Fourth official
Mohammad Usman Aslam NOR

Tuesday 21 jun 20.30
Levadia (EST)v Vikingur Reykjavik(ISL)
no referee available at the moment
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: edy on Mon 20 Jun 2022 18:08
Tuesday 21 June 20.30
Levadia (EST)v Vikingur Reykjavik(ISL)

Referee: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Assistant referees: Marcin Boniek, Jakub Slusarski
Fourth official: Sebastian Krasny
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: edy on Thu 23 Jun 2022 22:08
Final

24 June 2022, 21:30 CET - Reykjavík (Víkingsvöllur)
Inter Escaldes (AND) - Víkingur Reykjavík (ISL)
Referee: Urs Schnyder (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Marco Zürcher (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Zürcher (SUI)
Fourth Official: Sven Wolfensberger (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tony Asumaa (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: Tammo Beishuizen (NED)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Tue 28 Jun 2022 21:56
Lots of English involvement in CL1Q
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Tue 28 Jun 2022 22:05
1st Leg in Bratislava

R:David Coote ENG
AR:Ian Hussin ENG
AR:Nick Hopton ENG
4thJohn Brooks ENG

2nd Leg in Sherrif

R: Peter Bankes ENG
AR:Adam Nunn ENG
AR:Wade Smith ENG
4th:Robert Jones ENG

2nd Leg in Qarabag

R: Andy Madley ENG
AR: Daniel Cook ENG
AR: Harry Lennard ENG
4th: Simon Hooper ENG
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: JCFC on Wed 29 Jun 2022 10:04
Has UEFA lifted its ban on making appointments public a couple of weeks in advance? If so, where are the details to be found?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ASM on Wed 29 Jun 2022 12:22
These are listed on UEFA’s website in the match details
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 29 Jun 2022 13:05
1st Leg Matches

Tuesday 5 July 2022

18:00 CET - Yerevan (Vazgen Sargsyan anvan Hanrapetakan Marzadasht)
Pyunik FA (ARM) - CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Köbeli (SUI)
Fourth Official: Martin Petersen (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vadims Direktorenko (LVA)
UEFA Delegate: Bakar Jordania (GEO)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Arman Alaberkyan (ARM)

19:00 CET - Malmö (Eleda Stadion)
Malmö FF (SWE) - Knattspyrnufélagiđ Víkingur (ISL)
Referee: Dumitru Muntean (MDA, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Vladislav Lifciu (MDA)
Assistant Referee 2: Victor Mardari (MDA)
Fourth Official: Roman Jitari (MDA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nerijus Dunauskas (LTU)
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Jörgen Berggren (SWE)

19:45 CET - Razgrad (Huvepharma Arena)
PFK Ludogorets 1945 (BUL) - FK Sutjeska Nikšić (MNE)
Referee: Vítor Jorge Fernandes Ferreira (POR, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Tiago José Pereira da Costa (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Luís Carlos Lopes da Costa (POR)
Fourth Official: Gustavo Fernandes Correia (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Clayton Pisani (MLT)
UEFA Delegate: Alina Capațîna (MDA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Veselin Dobriyanov (BUL)

20:00 CET - Prishtina (Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri)
KF Ballkani (KOS) - FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU)
Referee: Robert Harvey (IRL, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Allen Lynch (IRL)
Assistant Referee 2: Darragh Keegan (IRL)
Fourth Official: John McLoughlin (IRL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Leóndios Tráttou (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Patrizia Hell (GER)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Granit Pacolli (KOS)

20:00 CET - Oswestry (Park Hall Stadium)
The New Saints FC (WAL) - Linfield FC (NIR)
Referee: Andrei Florin Chivulete (ROU, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Andrei Gabriel Constantinescu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jens Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Kari Iuell (NOR)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Matthew Johnson (WAL)

20:00 CET - Poznań (Stadion Poznań)
KKS Lech Poznań (POL) - Qarabağ FK (AZE)
Referee: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Antonio Ramón Martínez Moreno (ESP)
Fourth Official: Jorge Figueroa Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Milorad Mažić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Iain Blair (SCO)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Konrad Sapela (POL)

20:30 CET - Dublin (Tallaght Stadium)
Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL) - Hibernians FC (MLT)
Referee: Morten Krogh (DEN, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Jesper Dahl (DEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Lars Hummelgaard (DEN)
Fourth Official: Mikkel Redder (DEN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Daniel Zaharia (ROU)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: John Ward (IRL)

20:45 CET - Skopje (Natsionalna arena “Todor Proeski”)
FK Škupi 1927 (MKD) - Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB)
Referee: Sebastian Gishamer (AUT, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Roland Riedel (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Markus Reichholf (AUT)
Fourth Official: Christopher Jäger (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Laurent Duhamel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Ahmet Erzurumlu (TUR)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Besar Abduli (MKD)

Wednesday 6 July 2022

16:00 CET - Kostanay (Ortalyq stadıon)
Tobyl FK (KAZ) - Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)
Referee: Dario Bel (CRO, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Marjan Tomas (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Kruno Šarić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Tihomir Pejin (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicolae Grigorescu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Loukás Siótropos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Sanjar Ysqaqov (KAZ)

18:00 CET - Helsinki (Bolt Arena)
Helsingin Jalkapalloklubi (FIN) - Rīgas Futbola skola (LVA)
Referee: Juxhin Xhaja (ALB, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Denis Rexha (ALB)
Assistant Referee 2: Arbër Zalla (ALB)
Fourth Official: Florian Lata (ALB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Shvetsov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Filips Dhondt (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)

18:00 CET - Bodř (Aspmyra stadion)
FK Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - Klaksvíkar Ítróttarfelag (FRO)
Referee: Donald Robertson (SCO, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Francis Connor (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Ross Macleod (SCO)
Fourth Official: Colin Steven (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Per Eliasson (SWE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Kjell Johnny Brćkkan (NOR)

19:30 CET - Dudelange (Stade Jos Nosbaum)
F91 Diddeleng (LUX) - KF Tirana (ALB)
Referee: Rohit Saggi (NOR, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Morten Jensen (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Řystein Simon Ytterland (NOR)
Fourth Official: Sivert Řksnes Amland (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dimitar Mečkarovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Michael O’Brien (ENG)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:00 CET - Mostar (Gradski stadion Mostar)
HŠK Zrinjski Mostar (BIH) - FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
Referee: Fabio Maresca (ITA, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Fabiano Preti (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Davide Imperiale (ITA)
Fourth Official: Simone Sozza (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ruud Bossen (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Gabriel Weiss (SVK)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Nihad Ljajić (BIH)

20:15 CET - Maribor (Stadion Ljudski vrt)
NK Maribor (SVN) - FK Šachcior Salihorsk (BLR)
Referee: Anastásios Papapétrou (GRE, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Trýfon Petrópoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Iordánis Aptósoglou (GRE)
Fourth Official: Andréas Gamáris (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gevorg Hovhannisyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Haris Gvozden (BIH)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Alen Borošak (SVN)

20:30 CET - Bratislava (Národný futbalový štadión)
ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK) - SK Dinamo Batumi (GEO)
Referee: David Coote (ENG, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Ian Hussin (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Nick Hopton (ENG)
Fourth Official: John Brooks (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Könül Mehdiyeva (AZE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: TomᚠMókoš (SVK)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 29 Jun 2022 13:10
Has UEFA lifted its ban on making appointments public a couple of weeks in advance? If so, where are the details to be found?

They are more relaxed during the qualifying rounds.  The details are all on the UEFA website: https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/fixtures-results/#/rd/2001669-1  You need to click each individual match and look at the match info.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 06 Jul 2022 16:09
Wednesday 6 July 2022

16:00 CET - Kostanay (Ortalyq stadıon)
Tobyl FK (KAZ) - Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)
Referee: Dario Bel (CRO, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Marjan Tomas (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Kruno Šarić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Tihomir Pejin (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicolae Grigorescu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Loukás Siótropos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Sanjar Ysqaqov (KAZ)

Decent first half. The game itself is typical pre-season rustiness and neither team match fit. He's been quite strict but fair and consistent with both teams. Good movement around the pitch, fitness good. Had a couple of chats with players from both teams who seem to be liking and respecting him. One situation where a few handbags were thrown - foul by Tobol and one of their players tried to lift up the Fradi player, pulling at his shirt that started off some silliness. I'd not mess with Mr Bel as he dragged a player back away from another and shoved him out of the way! Not sure it's the most advisable technique but he got away with it.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 06 Jul 2022 17:41
Wednesday 6 July 2022

16:00 CET - Kostanay (Ortalyq stadıon)
Tobyl FK (KAZ) - Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)
Referee: Dario Bel (CRO, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Marjan Tomas (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Kruno Šarić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Tihomir Pejin (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicolae Grigorescu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Loukás Siótropos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Sanjar Ysqaqov (KAZ)

Decent first half. The game itself is typical pre-season rustiness and neither team match fit. He's been quite strict but fair and consistent with both teams. Good movement around the pitch, fitness good. Had a couple of chats with players from both teams who seem to be liking and respecting him. One situation where a few handbags were thrown - foul by Tobol and one of their players tried to lift up the Fradi player, pulling at his shirt that started off some silliness. I'd not mess with Mr Bel as he dragged a player back away from another and shoved him out of the way! Not sure it's the most advisable technique but he got away with it.

Decent 2nd half as well. The game was pretty dire though tbf.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:07
Tuesday 12 July 2022

17:30 CET - Jūrmala (Slokas stadions)
RFS Rīga (LVA) - HJK Helsinki (FIN)
Referee: David Fuxman (ISR, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Matityahu Yakobov (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Rostislav Talis (ISR)
Fourth Official: Idan Leiba (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Zoran Petrović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Kořínek (CZE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Vadims Direktorenko (LVA)

18:00 CET - Vilnius (LFF stadionas)
FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU) - KF Ballkani (KOS)
Referee: Espen Andreas Eskĺs (NOR, 1st Cat) Kristoffer Hagenes (NOR, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Kim Thomas Haglund (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Erik Engan (NOR)
Fourth Official: Kristoffer Hagenes (NOR) Daniel Higraff (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Anu Jokela (FIN)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Vaidotas Zajarskas (LTU)

18:00 CET - Baku (Tofiq Bəhramov adına Respublika Stadionu)
Qarabağ FK (AZE) - KKS Lech Poznań (POL)
Referee: Andrew Madley (ENG, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Richard Cook (ENG) Harry Lennard (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Harry Lennard (ENG) Wade Smith (ENG)
Fourth Official: Simon Hooper (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rien Koopman (NED)
UEFA Delegate: David Moran (IRL) Tammo Beishuizen (NED)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ömər Paşayev (AZE)

18:00 CET - Gibraltar (Victoria Stadium)
Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB) - FK Škupi 1927 (MKD)
Referee: Filip Glova (SVK, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Peter Bednár (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Poláček (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kráľovič (SVK)
UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (IRL) Gerard Perry (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Tanya Gravina (MLT) Tibor Vámos (HUN)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Denis Alvarez (GIB)

19:00 CET - Chișinău (Stadionul Zimbru)
FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) - HŠK Zrinjski (BIH)
Referee: Peter Bankes (ENG, 2nd Cat) Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Adam Nunn (ENG) Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Wade Smith (ENG) Mircea Mihail Grigoriu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Robert Jones (ENG) Marcel Bîrsan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Alpaslan Kavas (TUR)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Roman Jitari (MDA)

20:00 CET - Tirana (Air Albania Stadium)
KF Tirana (ALB) - F91 Diddeleng (LUX)
Referee: César Soto Grado (ESP, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Iker de Francisco Grijalba (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Carlos Álvarez Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Isidro Díaz de Mera Escuderos (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Kurt Zuppinger (SUI)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Nertil Bregasi (ALB)

20:00 CET - Klaksvík (viđ Djúpumýru)
KÍ Klaksvík (FRO) - FK Bodř/Glimt (NOR)
Referee: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic (ROU, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Valentin Gabriel Avram (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Alexandru Cerei (ROU)
Fourth Official: Andrei Florin Chivulete (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Robert Małek (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Scott Struthers (SCO)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Jóhan Petur Michelsen (FRO)

20:00 CET - Ta’ Qali (Centenary Stadium)
Hibernians FC (MLT) - Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)
Referee: Manfredas Lukjančukas (LTU, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Vytenis Kazlauskas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Edgaras Bučinskas (LTU)
Fourth Official: Donatas Šimėnas (LTU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Chrístos Nikolaḯdis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Fiona Pförtke (GER)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: William Debattista (MLT)

21:00 CET - Podgorica (DG Arena)
FK Sutjeska (MNE) - PFK Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)
Referee: Gergő Bogár (HUN, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Theodoros Georgiou (HUN)
Fourth Official: Ferenc Karakó (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sabri Çelik (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Kejdi Tomorri (ALB)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Milutin Đukić (MNE)

21:30 CET - Reykjavík (Víkingsvöllur)
Víkingur Reykjavík (ISL) - Malmö FF (SWE)
Referee: John Beaton (SCO, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel McFarlane (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Douglas Potter (SCO)
Fourth Official: David Dickinson (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pavle Radovanović (MNE)
UEFA Delegate: Mauro Tonolini (ITA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Skúli Freyr Brynjólfsson (ISL)

Wednesday 13 July 2022

19:00 CET - Adapazarı/Sakarya (Sakarya Atatürk Stadyumu)
FK Šachcior Salihorsk (BLR) - NK Maribor (SVN)
Referee: Enea Jorgji (ALB, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Rejdi Avdo (ALB)
Assistant Referee 2: Ani Koçiaj (ALB)
Fourth Official: Emanuela Rusta (ALB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel de Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Sergiu Lisnic (MDA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Mehmet Ali Özer (TUR)

19:00 CET - Batumi (Adjarabet Arena)
SK Dinamo Batumi (GEO) - ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
Referee: António Emanuel de Carvalho Nobre (POR, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Pedro Nuno de Sá Martins (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Miguel de Almeida da Mota (POR)
Fourth Official: Hélder Miguel de Azevedo Malheiro (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan Willem Wegereef (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Ionel Piscanu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Giorgi Vadachkoria (GEO)

20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) - Tobyl FK (KAZ)
Referee: Krzysztof Jakubik (POL, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Bartosz Heinig (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Niemirowski (POL)
Fourth Official: Piotr Lasyk (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Charles Schaack (LUX)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ádám Farkas (HUN)

20:30 CET - Cluj-Napoca (Stadionul Dr. Constantin Rădulescu)
CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU) - Pyunik FA (ARM)
Referee: Michael Fabbri (ITA, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Marco Bresmes (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Domenico Palermo (ITA)
Fourth Official: Alessandro Prontera (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alan Mario Sant (MLT)
UEFA Delegate: Fróso Ppekrí (CYP)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Marian Mircea Salomir (ROU)

20:45 CET - Belfast (National Football Stadium at Windsor Park)
Linfield FC (NIR) - The New Saints FC (WAL)
Referee: Duje Strukan (CRO, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Bojan Zobenica (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Alen Jakšić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Ivan Bebek (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luc Wouters (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Jürgen Igelspacher (GER)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Gareth Eakin (NIR)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Fri 08 Jul 2022 12:46
Good game for Madley, Bankes under Nobs’s supervision doubt he will be impressed. Equally surprising to see cat 1 officials in this round
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Tue 12 Jul 2022 09:34
lets hope madly and especially banks do well then hopefully they will have regular champs league/europa/conference league appointments alongside Taylor Oliver,Pawson and our other Uefa qualified refs
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Tue 12 Jul 2022 10:23
lets hope madly and especially banks do well then hopefully they will have regular champs league/europa/conference league appointments alongside Taylor Oliver,Pawson and our other Uefa qualified refs

Banks off of his game - that team replaced by a team from Romania.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Tue 12 Jul 2022 12:08
lets hope madly and especially banks do well then hopefully they will have regular champs league/europa/conference league appointments alongside Taylor Oliver,Pawson and our other Uefa qualified refs

Banks off of his game - that team replaced by a team from Romania.


Corona?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Tue 12 Jul 2022 12:56
lets hope madly and especially banks do well then hopefully they will have regular champs league/europa/conference league appointments alongside Taylor Oliver,Pawson and our other Uefa qualified refs

Banks off of his game - that team replaced by a team from Romania.


Corona?

No idea.  I know 1 of those changed was because they had visa issues but not sure about the rest of them.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Wed 13 Jul 2022 12:44
Hopefully banks gets a UEFA qualifying game soon then
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Fri 15 Jul 2022 02:09
Second Qualifying Round 1st Legs

Tuesday 19 July 2022

18:00 CET - Baku (Tofiq Bəhramov adına Respublika Stadionu)
Qarabağ FK (AZE) - FC Zürich (SUI)
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrišimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Miloš Gigović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Johansen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Jiří Novák (CZE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

18:00 CET - Vilnius (LFF stadionas)
FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU) - Malmö FF (SWE)
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Radoslav Gidzhenov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Chrístos Nikolaḯdis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Alina Capațîna (MDA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

18:00 CET - Yerevan (Vazgen Sargsyan anvan Hanrapetakan Marzadasht)
Pyunik FA (ARM) - F91 Diddeleng (LUX)
Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel Robathan (ENG)
Fourth Official: Darren England (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Meßner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Ivan Lekov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

19:45 CET - Razgrad (Huvepharma Arena)
PFK Ludogorets 1945 (BUL) - Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)
Referee: Joăo Pedro da Silva Pinheiro (POR, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Miguel Alves de Jesus (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano António Gomes da Maia (POR)
Fourth Official: Miguel Bértolo Nogueira (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Jeroen Roest (NED)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

19:45 CET - Herning (MCH Arena)
FC Midtjylland (DEN) - AEK Lárnakas (CYP)
Referee: Novak Simović (SRB, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Nikola Đorović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Miloš Simović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Jovan Šegrt (SRB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Johny Vanspauwen (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:45 CET - Belfast (National Football Stadium at Windsor Park)
Linfield FC (NIR) - FK Bodř/Glimt (NOR)
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjonņikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Kim Hallberg (DEN)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

21:00 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
GNK Dinamo (CRO) - FK Škupi 1927 (MKD)
Referee: Radu Marian Petrescu (ROU, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Radu Adrian Ștefan Ghinguleac (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mircea Mihail Grigoriu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sorin Andrei Antonie (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Zbigniew Przesmycki (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Karl Espen Eriksen (NOR)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

Wednesday 20 July 2022

18:00 CET - Helsinki (Bolt Arena)
HJK Helsinki (FIN) - FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
Referee: Nikola Dabanović (MNE, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Milutin Đukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official: Miloš Bošković (MNE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Romano Clavadetscher (SUI)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

19:00 CET - Haifa (Itztadion Sammy Ofer)
Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR) - Olymbiakós SFP (GRE)
Referee: Sascha Stegemann (GER, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Robert Schröder (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks (LVA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) - ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Jon Núńez Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo González Fuertes (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:00 CET - Łódź, Poland (Stadion Miejski im. Władysława Króla)
FK Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) - Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderkvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: István Huszár (HUN)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:15 CET - Maribor (Stadion Ljudski vrt)
NK Maribor (SVN) - FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
Referee: Harald Lechner (AUT, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Andreas Heidenreich (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)
Fourth Official: Markus Hameter (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Joăo Francisco Lopes Ferreira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Josip Tomaško (CRO)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sat 16 Jul 2022 15:04
20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) - ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Jon Núńez Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo González Fuertes (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

I know nothing about this ref.  Hope he is up to the task, this is going to be a very, very difficult game...
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Alex04 on Sun 17 Jul 2022 19:28
20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN) - ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Jon Núńez Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Pablo González Fuertes (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

I know nothing about this ref.  Hope he is up to the task, this is going to be a very, very difficult game...


His most famous moment is this:
https://youtu.be/5tllh3k5edk
Sent off Ronaldo after two yellows - the second one for diving. Ronaldo then shoved him after receiving the red card.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 17 Jul 2022 23:32

I know nothing about this ref.  Hope he is up to the task, this is going to be a very, very difficult game...


His most famous moment is this:
Edited out - no need for the video in reply post
Sent off Ronaldo after two yellows - the second one for diving. Ronaldo then shoved him after receiving the red card.

Oh!

This is what I wrote on the Hungarian website:  His international experience seems quite limited and this will only be his 2nd Championship qualifier, having refereed Neftchi Baku v Olympiacos at this stage last season. He has refereed Fradi previously in a Europa League qualifier on 12.07.2018, first round, 1st leg when they drew 1-1 at home to Maccabi Tel Aviv. He has no prior games with any Slovakian teams.

That means I have actually seen him before in the Fradi game but I don't remember him.

I'm not sure that UEFA have quite grasped what a difficult match this is likely to be. They've only met twice, home & away in 92 but there is a high degree of animosity between the nations which spills over into football. Some of the stuff I've seen between the ultras already is well not good shall we say! Most (if not all) Hungarian football supporters will also support FC DAC as they are Hungarian owned, in a region that was Hungarian pre Trianon and is supported by the Hungarians living in Slovakia - over the past few years there have been things like Slovakia banning the Hungarian national anthem, banning Hungary flags, banning Nélküled from being played, banning Hungary shirts, banning Hungarian chants like Ria Ria Hungaria etc. There's a lot of bad feeling! Probably about the only saving grace is Fradi have very few Hungarians in their squad, which might help calm it on the pitch!! I have a press pass for the game.

Just completely, almost unrelated. Nélküled is a song by Ismerős Arcok basically about the 5 million displaced Hungarians being Hungarian where ever they live & is very popular with Hungarians especially those in Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine etc. It was sung at the opening on the new National team stadium so banning from being played at a Hungarian owned team (MOL own FC DAC - they also sponsor our league, our cup etc as our federation president is one of the owners) has only increased animosity.

https://youtu.be/KuKyfhERUNM

I hope football wins on the day...
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 20 Jul 2022 20:08
Football is not going to win this game... UEFA fines incoming I am sure.

Fradi fans attacked the Slovan Bratislava coach, smashing a window. District 9 has more riot police than citizens - press received police escorts into the ground and are being guarded by police inside. Fradi ultras the green monsters released a video showing the police brutality in Slovakia in 1992 ahead of the game which has got the whole place fired up. Fradi played Nélküled ahead of kick off and the Slovan ultras turned their back and walked out of the stands. Nélküled was followed by Himnusz, which delayed kick off as the Fradi players stood firm singing it with the fans. The Slovan fans came back in to a chorus of boos and immediately threw smoke bombs and firecrackers into the home crowd.

It's not much better on the pitch, the amount of playacting by both teams is embarrassing. Saponjic given a yellow card on 27 for elbowing - he didn't touch the Fradi player... The ref has fallen for every single bit of it and is getting conned left, right and centre. Penalty shout on 22 for Fradi - ref said no & was correct to do so. Replays showed there was no handball offence. He got the 1 really big call of the 1st half correct. 30mins it all kicked off, Fradi fans pelting the Slovan corner taker with cups and whatever else they could get their hands on, caused a bit of handbags on the pitch, 1 Slovan player trying to con the ref into believing he'd been punched, ref was distracted by other players pushing and shoving each other. He sent a couple of Fradi players to plead with the crowd to calm it and went with them asking them himself to please just stop. He then took the players off the pitch for a drinks break, tactically used to try and calm the crowd & players down. Worked in terms of the players - not so the crowd! Very few pryo's during the game so I assume the police were confiscating them. As I type that - 2nd half delayed due to the pyros!! The ref has sent Dibz to ask the crowd to stop - Slovan's gk is right in front of the pyros.

While he got the big call right, he has been conned by both teams far too much & is missing the niggly tackles.

Need a far stronger & more experienced ref for the return leg.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 20 Jul 2022 20:57
2nd half much better. The Fradi Capo led/kept the fans singing which stopped the shenanigans in the stands. Lots of pyros though 2nd half.

The players of both teams stopped the on pitch stupidity and just on with playing ball - much better to watch. Ref was much better 2nd half - funny anyone would think player bad behaviour directly leads to referee error....

Barseghyan winning goal for Slovan Bratislava was a cracker, he was the player who in the first half who tried to con the ref into believing he had been punched.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Thu 21 Jul 2022 09:58
That’s the problem with Spanish officials, because they fall for it in their own countries because their players are the worst when it comes to this type of thing, they struggle with foul detection.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Fri 22 Jul 2022 11:42
Tuesday 26 July 2022

17:30 CET - Larnaca (AEK Aréna - Geórgios Karapatákis)
AEK Lárnakas (CYP) - FC Midtjylland (DEN)
Referee: István Vad (HUN, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Vencel Tóth (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: István Albert (HUN)
Fourth Official: Ferenc Karakó (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gerard Perry (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Iveta Bankova (BUL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Andréas Ioannídis (CYP)

19:00 CET - Plzeň (Doosan Arena)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - HJK Helsinki (FIN)
Referee: Aleksandar Stavrev (MKD, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Dejan Kostadinov (MKD)
Assistant Referee 2: Kuštrim Lika (MKD)
Fourth Official: Jovan Kačevski (MKD)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alan Mario Sant (MLT)
UEFA Delegate: Fívos Konstandinídis (CYP)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Kryštof Mencl (CZE)

19:00 CET - Chișinău (Stadionul Zimbru)
FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) - NK Maribor (SVN)
Referee: Tamás Bognár (HUN, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN)
Fourth Official: Balázs Berke (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Andi Zëre (ALB)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Roman Jitari (MDA)

19:30 CET - Dudelange (Stade Jos Nosbaum)
F91 Diddeleng (LUX) - Pyunik FA (ARM)
Referee: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Íńigo Prieto López de Ceraín (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Antonio Ramón Martínez Moreno (ESP)
Fourth Official: Mario Melero López (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: František Laurinec (SVK)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Jérémy Muller (LUX)

21:00 CET - Skopje (Nacionalna arena “Todor Proeski”)
FK Škupi 1927 (MKD) - GNK Dinamo (CRO)
Referee: Jakob Kehlet (DEN, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Lars Hummelgaard (DEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Victor Skytte (DEN)
Fourth Official: Sandi Putros (DEN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Ádonis Prokopíou (CYP)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Blagojče Naumovski (MKD)

21:00 CET - Dublin (Tallaght Stadium)
Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL) - PFK Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)
Referee: Fabio Maresca (ITA, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giuseppe Perrotti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Livio Marinelli (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Patricia González García (ESP)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Robert Hennessy (IRL)

Wednesday 27 July 2022

18:00 CET - Bodř (Aspmyra stadion)
FK Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - Linfield FC (NIR)
Referee: Roi Reinshreiber (ISR, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: David Elias Biton (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Sagi Metzamber (ISR)
Fourth Official: Eitan Shmuelevitz (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jřrn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: René Siegrist (SUI)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Kjell Johnny Brćkkan (NOR)

19:00 CET - Zürich (Stadion Letzigrund)
FC Zürich (SUI) - Qarabağ FK (AZE)
Referee: Allard Lindhout (NED, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Charles Schaap (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Roy de Nas (NED)
Fourth Official: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Andreas Baumann (SUI)

19:00 CET - Malmö (Eleda Stadion)
Malmö FF (SWE) - FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU)
Referee: Kristo Tohver (EST, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Silver Kőiv (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Sten Klaasen (EST)
Fourth Official: Martti Pukk (EST)
UEFA Referee Observer: Helmut Fleischer (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Emmanuelle Puttaert (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Jörgen Berggren (SWE)

19:00 CET - Istanbul (Ülker Stadyumu Fenerbahçe Şükrü Saracoğlu Spor Kompleksi)
Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) - FK Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Domenico Rocca (ITA)
Fourth Official: Gianluca Manganiello (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Johansen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Tarik Shamel (ENG)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Alper Yusuf Döğmen (TUR)

20:30 CET - Bratislava (Národný futbalový štadión)
ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK) - Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)
Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Emanuele Prenna (ITA)
Fourth Official: Simone Sozza (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Leslie Irvine (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: David Findlay (SCO)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: TomᚠMókoš (SVK)

21:00 CET - Piraeus (Stádio Geórgios Karaďskákis)
Olymbiakós SFP (GRE) - MK Maccabi Haifa (ISR)
Referee: Daniel Stefański (POL, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Dawid Golis (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Michał Obukowicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Wajda (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Athanásios Nikolakópoulos (GRE)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Fri 22 Jul 2022 11:51
Irrati the erratic on Kiev v fenerbahce - crazy!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Thu 28 Jul 2022 17:58
Big hitters of the elite group out for 3rd Qualifying round 1st leg:

Champions' Path:

Maccabi Haifa vs Apollon Limassol - Maurizio Mariani (Italy)
Qarabag vs Ferencvaros - Andreas Ekberg (Sweden)
Ludogorets Razgrad vs Dinamo Zagreb - Cuneyt Cakir (Turkey ELITE)
Sheriff Tiraspol vs VIktoria Plzen - Danny Makkelie (Holland ELITE)
Bodo/Glimt vs Zalgiris - Istvan Vad (HUngary)
Red Star Belgade vs Pyunik - Artur Soares Dias (Portugal ELITE)


League Path:
Monaco vs PSV Eindhoven - Davide Massa (Italy ELITE)
Dynamo Kiev vs Sturm Graz - Francois Letexier (France ELITE)
Union St Gilloise vs Rangers - Irfan Peljto (Bosnia)
Benfica vs FC Midtjylland - Alejandro Hernandez Hernandez


Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Fri 29 Jul 2022 17:14
2022/23 UEFA Champions League - Third Qualifying Round (I)

Tuesday 2 August 2022

19:00 CET - Chișinău (Stadionul Zimbru)
FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) - FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Elmir Pilav (BIH)
UEFA Delegate: Andrew Shaw (ENG)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Roman Jitari (MDA)

19:45 CET - Razgrad (Huvepharma Arena)
PFK Ludogorets 1945 (BUL) - GNK Dinamo (CRO)
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Kerem Ersoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Alpaslan Dedeş (TUR)
Fourth Official: Yaşar Kemal Uğurlu (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mert Güzenge (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marián Ružbarský (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Mirosław Ryszka (POL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:00 CET - Monaco (Stade Louis II)
AS Monaco FC (FRA) - PSV Eindhoven (NED)
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mauro Vivenzi (ITA)
Fourth Official: Davide Ghersini (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Volodymyr Petrov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Luca Zorzi (SUI)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Faouzi Benchabane (FRA)

20:45 CET - Leuven (King Power at Den Dreef Stadion)
Royale Union Saint-Gilloise (BEL) - Rangers FC (SCO)
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Senad Ibrišimbegović (BIH)
Fourth Official: Miloš Gigović (BIH)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Markus Sinn (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel de Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Mutschler (SUI)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Stijn Hutsebaut (BEL)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do SL Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - FC Midtjylland (DEN)
Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: José Enrique Naranjo Pérez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Sánchez Rojo (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: César Soto Grado (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Kieran O’Connor (WAL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Hugo Marcelino Guerreiro (POR)

Wednesday 3 August 2022

18:00 CET - Bodř (Aspmyra stadion)
FK Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU)
Referee: István Vad (HUN, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Vencel Tóth (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: István Albert (HUN)
Fourth Official: Sándor Andó-Szabó (HUN)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mark Borsch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ichko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Ţórir Ţormar Hákonarson (ISL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Řystein Havig (NOR)

19:00 CET - Haifa (Itztadion Sammy Ofer)
Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR) - Apóllon Lemesoú (CYP)
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Lo Cicero (ITA)
Fourth Official: Matteo Marchetti (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Matteo Passeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Philippe Prudhon (FRA)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Edan Elmalem (ISR)

20:00 CET - Baku (Tofiq Bəhramov adına Respublika Stadionu)
Qarabağ FK (AZE) - Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Niklas Nyberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA) Miroslav Tulinger (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Aurel Mihail Ionescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ömər Paşayev (AZE)

20:00 CET - Łódź, Poland (Stadion Miejski im. Władysława Króla)
FK Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) - SK Sturm Graz (AUT)
Referee: François Letexier (FRA, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Pierre Gaillouste (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Eric Wattellier (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alberto Undiano Mallenco (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Aleksandra Ana Raspopović (MNE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer:

20:45 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) - Pyunik FA (ARM)
Referee: Artur Manuel Ribeiro Soares Dias (POR, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Licínio Barbosa Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Alexandre dos Santos Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Fábio José da Costa Veríssimo (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Hugo Filipe Ferreira de Campos Moreira Miguel (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edgar Steinborn (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Kindle (LIE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Vladimir Šegrt (SRB)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Fri 29 Jul 2022 21:56
Interesting appointments, particularly Vad with two appointments in the last two fixture lists.

Some big hitters in the mix too.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sat 30 Jul 2022 18:02
Hopefully means he is standing down at the end of the year so Gergő Bogár can be promoted to Category 1...
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksback on Sun 31 Jul 2022 21:43
Hopefully means he is standing down at the end of the year so Gergő Bogár can be promoted to Category 1...

Will MOL Fehérvár FC (HUN) - FC Petrocub-Hîncești (ROU) have tensions bmb?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 31 Jul 2022 22:52
Hopefully means he is standing down at the end of the year so Gergő Bogár can be promoted to Category 1...

Will MOL Fehérvár FC (HUN) - FC Petrocub-Hîncești (ROU) have tensions bmb?

None whatsoever i don't imagine! Not sure how they were tagged originally as Romanian as they're actually from Moldova! I've corrected the Conference league thread. They would have been Romanian previously pre 1991 - well they'd have been annexed as part of Romania by the USSR to be more correct! Hungary supported their bid for independence, so did Romania on the whole so there's no real historical issues.  I hope not anyway as I will be sat in the stand watching!

FC DAC 1904 Dunajská Streda (SVK) - FC FCSB (ROU) on the other hand, might have a few idiots trying to start something...
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jad on Mon 01 Aug 2022 14:06
A remarkably short journey for Davide Massa: about 30 miles up the coast from Imperia to Monte Carlo.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 03 Aug 2022 00:03
20:45 CET - Leuven (King Power at Den Dreef Stadion)
Royale Union Saint-Gilloise (BEL) - Rangers FC (SCO)
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH, 1st Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Senad Ibrišimbegović (BIH)
Fourth Official: Miloš Gigović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel de Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Mutschler (SUI)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Stijn Hutsebaut (BEL)

Oh...

https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1554566782710697988?s=20&t=xT1-IRhv5ekSLzKpMCVJ2g
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Wed 03 Aug 2022 07:02
If thats handball then anytime the ball touches an arm is handball and the game is dead!
What is that player supposed to do?
Bonkers
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Leggy on Wed 03 Aug 2022 08:20
"Bonkers" is putting it mildly.  No time to react, arm was not in an "unnatural position" (when moving around at speed the arms do that sometimes).

To cap it off, a yellow card (or - as we used to call it - a caution) is awarded.  In the days when referees communicated cautions to players with words (as opposed to cards) we were instructed to warn the offending player that if a second cautionable offence was committed the player would be sent from the field of play.  In simple terms, the referee is warning the player not to reoffend.  In this case you are warning the player not to get in the way of a ball taking two deflections and hitting the arm.  What can the player do?  Another nonsense created by chasing the Holy Grail of certainty.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: dtrv2 on Wed 03 Aug 2022 13:53
That does seem to follow the UEFA/FIFA apparent stance that any contact between hand and ball is handball. Time after time in European/International football you see handballs given where the player has no chance of getting out of the way. And that just encourages teams to try to kick the ball into hands and then appeal wildly, similar to the deliberate attempt to get penalty corners in hockey by playing it against an opponent's foot.

As for the YC, absolutely no idea...
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 03 Aug 2022 22:02
Initial appointments are out. I will edit (or moderators are welcome to) when the full list is available.

Tuesday 9 August 2022

18:00 CET - Vilnius (LFF stadionas)
FK Žalgiris Vilnius (LTU) - FK Bodř/Glimt (NOR)
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jonas Erni (SUI)
Fourth Official: Stefan Horisberger (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Kassai (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Lambriní Dimitríou (GRE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Sergejus Slyva (LTU)

19:00 CET - Nicosia (Stádio GSP)
Apóllon Lemesoú (CYP) - Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Daniel Zaharia (ROU)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Chrístos Michailídis (CYP)

19:00 CET - Plzeň (Doosan Arena)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)
Referee: Orel Grinfeld (ISR, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Roi Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni (ISR)
Fourth Official: Gal Leibovitz (ISR)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Stávros Tritsónis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Kindle (LIE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Kryštof Mencl (CZE)

19:00 CET - Yerevan (Vazgen Sargsyan anvan Hanrapetakan Marzadasht)
Pyunik FA (ARM) - FK Crvena zvezda (SRB)
Referee: William Collum (SCO, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: David McGeachie (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Francis Connor (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Andreas Schluchter (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Johny Vanspauwen (BEL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Sona Grigoryan (ARM)

19:45 CET - Randers (MCH Arena)
FC Midtjylland (DEN) - SL Benfica (POR)
Referee: Srđan Jovanović (SRB, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Momčilo Marković (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Neale Barry (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Camelia Nicolae (ROU)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Jesper Petersen (DEN)

20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)- Qarabağ FK (AZE)
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: José Enrique Naranjo Pérez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Gonzalo García González (ESP)
Fourth Official: Miguel Ángel Ortiz Arias (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Milorad Mažić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ádám Farkas (HUN)

20:00 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
GNK Dinamo (CRO) - PFK Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Erwan Finjean (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Philippe Jeanne (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Kóstas Kapitanís (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win (ENG)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ivica Modrić (CRO)

20:30 CET - Eindhoven (Philips Stadion)
PSV Eindhoven (NED) - AS Monaco FC (FRA)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Javier Martínez Nicolás (ESP)
Fourth Official: Isidro Díaz de Mera Escuderos (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Georges Lüchinger (LIE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Arie Brink (NED)

20:30 CET - Graz (Merkur Arena)
SK Sturm Graz (AUT) - FK Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Ján Pozor (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kráľovič (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Petr Fousek (CZE)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Johann Hechtl (AUT)

20:45 CET - Glasgow (Ibrox Stadium)
Rangers FC (SCO) - Royale Union Saint-Gilloise (BEL)
Referee: Anastásios Sidirópoulos (GRE, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychrónis Kostarás (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lázaros Dimitriádis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Aristotélis Diamandópoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Eugčne Westerink (NED)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Stewart Shearer (SCO)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 03 Aug 2022 22:07
Big guns are out… the majority have fairly significant observers too, some of which we are very familiar with.

Collum’s game looks the weakest of the lot IMO. English VAR to assist surely?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 03 Aug 2022 22:50
20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)- Qarabağ FK (AZE)
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: José Enrique Naranjo Pérez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Gonzalo García González (ESP)
Fourth Official: Miguel Ángel Ortiz Arias (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Milorad Mažić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ádám Farkas (HUN)

Nice! Think I might well be using my ticket for that one!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Tue 09 Aug 2022 19:40
20:00 CET - Budapest (Groupama Aréna)
Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)- Qarabağ FK (AZE)
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP, Elite)
Assistant Referee 1: José Enrique Naranjo Pérez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Gonzalo García González (ESP)
Fourth Official: Miguel Ángel Ortiz Arias (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee:
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Milorad Mažić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)
UEFA Referee Liaison Officer: Ádám Farkas (HUN)

Nice! Think I might well be using my ticket for that one!

Mr del Cerro Grande confirming he obviously does not read RTR as he is wearing THAT colour! He's got quite a scary cross look - never noticed that before! Aside of the rag he is wearing he's been decent thus far. Fradi 1-0 down, deservedly so & perhaps if Laidouni stopped tripping over his own shadow anytime someone is in sneezing range of him & a few of the others remembered they are there to kick the ball in the opposing teams net and not to push their players over they might find a way back into the game...

One sector is closed due to the anti Slovak chanting in the previous round. There is a huge anti racism poster there instead. I have no problem with that but I am annoyed they label it as racism instead of xenophobia. Xenophobia is NO better and is equally as unacceptable but label it as it is. Both clubs were charged - it was anti Slovak/anti Hungarian chants depending on which side but there was no racist behaviour by either club. To be fair to Fradi they as a club have been very vocal, they have stated that sector is an embarrassment to the club and they are glad it is shut because they don't want them there and that they are looking to identify those responsible & will ban them for life. UEFA ordered them to have 1 ant racism banner in the closed sector, they have additionally put anti racism advert in the program, on the website, on their SM accounts and at every entrance. Kubatov has released a video telling them not to come back after the 1 match ban because they are the ones not welcome.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Tue 09 Aug 2022 21:16
Fradi lost 3-1, Qarabağ worthy winners, they were by far the better team.  Team ref can be happy with their contribution to the game aside of the kit they wore obviously!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Tue 09 Aug 2022 21:56
Interesting game for Bastien tonight in Razgrad - 9 yellows 3 reds and 3 penalties. Anyone comment?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Tue 09 Aug 2022 22:17
Bastien incidents:

Second YC
https://streamja.com/gwXmy

Penalty
https://streamja.com/N0V7e

Second penalty
https://streamja.com/leXqz


Second YC:
https://streamja.com/qL5A0

Straight RC and penalty after OFR:
https://streamja.com/PV505
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 10 Aug 2022 00:01
Goodness me there has been some card waving  this evening…

Added to Bastien, was Sidiropoulos with 11 yellows and a red.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Wed 10 Aug 2022 08:54
Bastien incidents:

Second YC
https://streamja.com/gwXmy

Penalty
https://streamja.com/N0V7e

Second penalty
https://streamja.com/leXqz


Second YC:
https://streamja.com/qL5A0

Straight RC and penalty after OFR:
https://streamja.com/PV505

Many thanks
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 14 Aug 2022 15:26
Champions League 2022/23 - Play-Offs (First Leg, I)

16  August 2022

21:00 CET - Aspmyra, Bodř
Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mark Borsch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE)

21:00 CET - Parken, Copenhagen
Copenhagen (DEN) - Trabzonspor (TUR) 
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Robert Jones (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jarred Gavan Gillett (AUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţór Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt (BEL)

21:00 CET - Ibrox, Glasgow
Rangers (SCO) - PSV (NED)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luca Pairetto (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jřrn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Lundström (FIN)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hendo on Sun 14 Aug 2022 20:10
Bastien incidents:

Second YC
https://streamja.com/gwXmy

Penalty
https://streamja.com/N0V7e

Second penalty
https://streamja.com/leXqz


Second YC:
https://streamja.com/qL5A0

Straight RC and penalty after OFR:
https://streamja.com/PV505

Hope they had an undertaker present as there were at least 3 dead footballers there (unless of course they were OVER-REACTING 😱😱). Heaven forbid
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 15 Aug 2022 09:14
Really happy for Oliver. Getting deserved appointments again and again
 Is he number 1 over Taylor in UEFAs eyes yet?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 15 Aug 2022 10:58
17  August 2022

18:45 CET - Tofiq Bahramov adına Respublika Stadionu, Baku
Qarabağ (AZE) - Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazovič (SVN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Kofoed (DEN)

21:00 CET - Sammy Ofer Stadium, Haifa
Maccabi Haifa (ISR) - Crvena Zvezda (SRB)
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Fourth Official: César Soto Grado (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell (SVN)

21:00 CET - Stadion Miejski al. Unii Lubelskiej 2, Lodz
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) - Benfica (POR)
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bertrand Layec (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Mon 15 Aug 2022 11:43
Herr Zwayer back in the committee’s eyes?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: BabyRef on Mon 15 Aug 2022 12:34
The Tofiq Bahramov Stadium in Baku - the only stadium named after a linesman?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: tef on Mon 15 Aug 2022 12:40
Really happy for Oliver. Getting deserved appointments again and again
 Is he number 1 over Taylor in UEFAs eyes yet?

The interesting bit for me is Attwell back as VAR after his long UEFA absence. One final chance for him (and English VARs in general perhaps)?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Mon 15 Aug 2022 16:09
The Tofiq Bahramov Stadium in Baku - the only stadium named after a linesman?

Technically yes, although back then they were very much referees first. Cant see Wembley being renamed Jack Taylor Stadium.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Tue 16 Aug 2022 22:09
Champions League 2022/23 - Play-Offs (First Leg, I)

16  August 2022

21:00 CET - Aspmyra, Bodř
Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mark Borsch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE)

Masterclass.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: K16 on Wed 17 Aug 2022 13:05
Champions League 2022/23 - Play-Offs (First Leg, I)

16  August 2022

21:00 CET - Aspmyra, Bodř
Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mark Borsch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE)

Masterclass.

Absolutely. For me as a Norwegian, it was a pleasure to see a performance like that in Norway for a change... It's only a couple of weeks since Glimt played at home and the referee gave handball for a header 🙃
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 17 Aug 2022 13:50
Champions League 2022/23 - Play-Offs (First Leg, I)

16  August 2022

21:00 CET - Aspmyra, Bodř
Bodř/Glimt (NOR) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mark Borsch (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE)

Masterclass.

Absolutely. For me as a Norwegian, it was a pleasure to see a performance like that in Norway for a change... It's only a couple of weeks since Glimt played at home and the referee gave handball for a header 🙃

Cracking game to watch and I think team ref really played their part in ensuring that was the case. The goal was superb. As for Mr Makkelie - positioning was perfect, he doesn't man manage he leads the game and is just so good at it. Decision making fair and consistent to both teams. He is such a great referee to watch. He makes it looks so easy but we all know that is not the case. The 2nd leg is going to be fantastic.

Was was the song by the fans at the end of the game? Loved that. Reminds me of our football in Hungary, we have similar there post match & I love it.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jad on Wed 17 Aug 2022 16:29
The Tofiq Bahramov Stadium in Baku - the only stadium named after a linesman?

I read recently that Tofiq Bahramov didn't really like running the line; I think he felt it was beneath his dignity.  Still, he was the Soviet Union's top referee for a number of years in the late 1960s and the early 1970s and he remains the only official from Azerbaijan to take part in a major tournament, and so I suppose he deserves what is as far I know a unique distinction.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Thu 18 Aug 2022 15:06
Taylor getting a 2nd leg poss?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Leggy on Thu 18 Aug 2022 16:53
The Tofiq Bahramov Stadium in Baku - the only stadium named after a linesman?

I read recently that Tofiq Bahramov didn't really like running the line; I think he felt it was beneath his dignity.  Still, he was the Soviet Union's top referee for a number of years in the late 1960s and the early 1970s and he remains the only official from Azerbaijan to take part in a major tournament, and so I suppose he deserves what is as far I know a unique distinction.

All World Cup match officials were top referees in their own countries for many years (until the specialism of Linesman / Assistant Referee was recognised) so that would make sense.  Whether he thought it was beneath his dignity may or may not be true, but the practise did lead to a number of shocking performance by "linesmen" in World Cup games.  For many of them, it was a long time since they had wielded a flag in anger .... and it showed.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Sun 21 Aug 2022 10:38
23  August 2022

21:00 CET - Stadion města Plzně, Plzeň
Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - Qarabağ (AZE)
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Fabio Verissimo (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Dane Jošt (SVN)

21:00 CET - Stadion Rajko Mitić, Belgrade
Crvena Zvezda (SRB)  - Maccabi Haifa (ISR)
Referee: Anthony Tyalor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz Michael Fröhlich (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)

21:00 CET - Estádio do SL Benfica, Lisbon
Benfica (POR)  - Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Palencik (SVK)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 Aug 2022 10:28
24  August 2022

21:00 CET - Stadion Maksimir, Zagreb
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - Bodř/Glimt (NOR)
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Xavier Estrada (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks (LVA)

21:00 CET - Senol Gunes Spor Kompleksi Yeni Stadyum, Trabzon
Trabzonspor (TUR)  - Copenhagen (DEN)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Danilo Filacchione (ITA)

21:00 CET - PSV Stadion, Eindhoven
PSV (NED) - Rangers (SCO)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Bakar Jordania (GEO) 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ryllyld on Mon 22 Aug 2022 11:30
Intriguing and finely poised game for Taylor et al in Belgrade on the Tuesday! UEFA seem to be persevering this season with English VAR teams as well.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Mon 22 Aug 2022 13:20
Oh! UEFA decided to schedule two of my favorite referees on the same evening. We need to talk. ;D

I'm missing István though!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 Aug 2022 13:24
Intriguing and finely poised game for Taylor et al in Belgrade on the Tuesday!

One of the most hostile & intimidating grounds going. It will be very loud and probably loads of pyros. Last season they put one of their coaches in hospital with a fractured skull as he tried to protect Bognár Tamás and his team leaving the pitch. 2 correct red cards, one for DOGSO & the other a YYR late on in the game & they were pelting them with rocks and all sorts. There was an additional xenophobic element that game as well but in general  - they are completely insane!

Been there once and walked the tunnel with the ground virtually empty & that was intimidating enough. My boss took me to a Belgrade derby as a "treat" (he once played for Partizan) - amazing atmosphere but scary.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 Aug 2022 13:27
Oh! UEFA decided to schedule two of my favorite referees on the same evening. We need to talk. ;D

I'm missing István though!

They've been good to me with scheduling this week so I guess that means everyone will be in y****w.  István will feature in the group stages, he's absolutely fine.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Mon 22 Aug 2022 13:38
Oh! UEFA decided to schedule two of my favorite referees on the same evening. We need to talk. ;D

I'm missing István though!

They've been good to me with scheduling this week so I guess that means everyone will be in y****w.  István will feature in the group stages, he's absolutely fine.

Glad to hear about Istvan! He is in my Top 3 fav's with Lahoz & Makkelie. I want to watch both on Wednesday. Perhaps needs to skip the Rangers-game. It's too much :p
What's your schedule?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Mon 22 Aug 2022 14:08
I think at least Makkelie won’t wear y****w, because the Trapzonspor GK wore a y****w kit in the first leg. Or do GK’s switch a lot? Michael Oliver wore red in the first leg.

Same applies to the Crvena Zvezda GK (Taylor's game). GK wore y****w kit in 1st leg.

In all other UCL games, the y****w is “available”, so I'm going to mentally prepare myself for the worst.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 Aug 2022 15:54
I think at least Makkelie won’t wear y****w,

He'll be in red!

What's your schedule?

My schedule this week:
Today: Mezőkövesd Zsóry v DVSC - József Erdős
Tues: Crvena Zvezda  - Maccabi Haifa - Anthony Tyalor
Weds: Trabzonspor - Copenhagen - Danny Makkelie & will probably have Dinamo Zagreb - Bodř/Glimt - Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz 1st leg was a fantastic game
Thurs: MOL Fehérvár FC - 1. FC Köln - Ali Palabıyık. Hajrá Vidi!! Shamrock Rovers - Ferencvárosi - François Letexier. Hajrá Fradi.
Fri - Sun: 6 NBI games, hopefully a Liga 1 game, hopefully a Fortuna Liga game, hopefully an Eredivisie game & hopefully an Albanian Supaliga game. Oh and possibly the AFCB game as well.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Mon 22 Aug 2022 19:12

What's your schedule?

hopefully an Eredivisie game & hopefully an Albanian Supaliga game. Oh and possibly the AFCB game as well.

Have you watched AZ Alkmaar by any chance? Their Hungarian LB is very talented. I was amazed by him.

Edited to fix quote thingamajjiga
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hendo on Mon 22 Aug 2022 21:12
I think at least Makkelie won’t wear y****w,

He'll be in red!

What's your schedule?

My schedule this week:
Today: Mezőkövesd Zsóry v DVSC - József Erdős
Tues: Crvena Zvezda  - Maccabi Haifa - Anthony Tyalor
Weds: Trabzonspor - Copenhagen - Danny Makkelie & will probably have Dinamo Zagreb - Bodř/Glimt - Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz 1st leg was a fantastic game
Thurs: MOL Fehérvár FC - 1. FC Köln - Ali Palabıyık. Hajrá Vidi!! Shamrock Rovers - Ferencvárosi - François Letexier. Hajrá Fradi.
Fri - Sun: 6 NBI games, hopefully a Liga 1 game, hopefully a Fortuna Liga game, hopefully an Eredivisie game & hopefully an Albanian Supaliga game. Oh and possibly the AFCB game as well.

When do you fit in your washing an ironing? 🤪
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 Aug 2022 21:56
When do you fit in your washing an ironing? 🤪

I have a boy servant for the chores!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 Aug 2022 22:07

Have you watched AZ Alkmaar by any chance? Their Hungarian LB is very talented. I was amazed by him.


I have no idea! I watch Enea Jorgji's games when I can. I wouldn't know 1 team from the other. I've watched Milos Kerkez play from U17 to now the U21 teams though. Decent prospect.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 25 Aug 2022 01:48
I think at least Makkelie won’t wear y****w,

He'll be in red!


He was indeed in red. Outstanding performance from team ref in a very difficult game.

Imo a missed yellow for a white player for a snidely studs up kick out when on the floor. Blind side of ref, AR was watching other things. I suspect VAR will have reviewed it but as a YC offence couldn’t intervene. He has a cross look that would even make me behave!! Cute smile on 66 when he got hit by the ball. Players smiling with him and clearly liked and respected him. Dealt with flash points well and got the game well under control. Couple of great calls from both ARs. Team ref can go home very proud of themselves 👏
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Thu 25 Aug 2022 04:20
I think at least Makkelie won’t wear y****w,

He'll be in red!


He was indeed in red. Outstanding performance from team ref in a very difficult game.

Imo a missed yellow for a white player for a snidely studs up kick out when on the floor. Blind side of ref, AR was watching other things. I suspect VAR will have reviewed it but as a YC offence couldn’t intervene. He has a cross look that would even make me behave!! Cute smile on 66 when he got hit by the ball. Players smiling with him and clearly liked and respected him. Dealt with flash points well and got the game well under control. Couple of great calls from both ARs. Team ref can go home very proud of themselves 👏

He needs to smile more! He comes across as a very professional and determined guy who wants to reach his goals. Very passionate about refereeing! I love that. Sometimes I do think: don’t forget to enjoy. And show us that joy and passion on the pitch, cause in 5-6 years his career could be over. Enjoy the moment :)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 25 Aug 2022 09:21
I think at least Makkelie won’t wear y****w,

He'll be in red!


He was indeed in red. Outstanding performance from team ref in a very difficult game.

Imo a missed yellow for a white player for a snidely studs up kick out when on the floor. Blind side of ref, AR was watching other things. I suspect VAR will have reviewed it but as a YC offence couldn’t intervene. He has a cross look that would even make me behave!! Cute smile on 66 when he got hit by the ball. Players smiling with him and clearly liked and respected him. Dealt with flash points well and got the game well under control. Couple of great calls from both ARs. Team ref can go home very proud of themselves 👏

He needs to smile more! He comes across as a very professional and determined guy who wants to reach his goals. Very passionate about refereeing! I love that. Sometimes I do think: don’t forget to enjoy. And show us that joy and passion on the pitch, cause in 5-6 years his career could be over. Enjoy the moment :)

I agree. He has a lovely smile when we get to see it! It matches his lovely personality. He's very passionate abut refereeing and he does (or at least did do) coaching for the KNVB. Can you imagine how inspiring that must be to young up coming referees to have him turning up to a training session? He's also one who will reach out to a fellow referee after a bad error to check in on them and provide them a listening ear & some support. I guess though he gets a lot of games that are very intense, like last night, noisy hostile/intimidating crowd, all to play for for both teams so maybe it makes it hard to be more smiley! You can see in his interactions with players there are a few smiles as he keeps it calm along with a scary cross look when they overstep! It's not easy to make it to the top, you have to be very determined and it's also not easy to stay there. Every outstanding performance will put pressure on him to keep performing at that level and with that same high accuracy and he does so consistently. Phenomenal referee to watch, imo.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Sun 04 Sep 2022 09:55
Appointments out on UEFA.com

Taylor has Paris v Juventus with German VARs

Kovacs rightly returns

Many mixed VAR teams, UEFA using the "best" irrespective of country.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 04 Sep 2022 10:06
6 September 2022

18:45 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - Chelsea (ENG) | Group E
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Andrei Chivulete (ROU
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marián Ružbarský (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Phivos Constantinides (CYP)

18:45 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - FC Copenhagen (DEN) | Group G
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Neil Morrow (NIR)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 04 Sep 2022 10:09
I do wish István had the reverse of that one, so I could go and see him! Good to see him back.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 04 Sep 2022 10:38
6 September 2022

18:45 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - Chelsea (ENG) | Group E
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Andrei Chivulete (ROU
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hațegan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marián Ružbarský (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Phivos Constantinides (CYP)

18:45 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - FC Copenhagen (DEN) | Group G
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Neil Morrow (NIR)

21:00 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - AC Milan  (ITA) | Group E
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Ţórir Hákonarson (ISL)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Celtic Park)
Celtic (SCO) - Real Madrid (ESP) | Group F
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jonas Erni (SUI)
Fourth Official: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rune Pedersen (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Milovan Đukanović (MNE)

21:00 CET - Leipzig (RB Arena)
Leipzig (GER) - Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) | Group F
Referee: Joăo Pinheiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bruno Alves Jesus (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Luciano Maia (POR)
Fourth Official: António Nobre (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Anthony Bloch (ENG)

21:00 CET - Seville (Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán)
Sevilla (ESP) - Manchester City (ENG) | Group G
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Simone Sozza (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Johannesson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Willem Van Dop (NED)

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint Germain (FRA) - Juventus (ITA) | Group H
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
Benfica POR) - Maccabi Haifa  (ISR) | Group H
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Niklas Nyberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Clos Gómez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Šupraha (CRO)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Sun 04 Sep 2022 17:30
I’m glad that István is back! 😍
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Sun 04 Sep 2022 19:15
It doesn't seem to bode too well that Taylor doesn't have English VARs for his game. I seem to remember Attwell wasn't trusted so much seemingly by UEFA towards end of last season and it seems Kavanagh didn't enjoy the best women's Euros either.

I wonder if someone else will get the chance to represent England in UEFA VAR role soon, maybe England?

(As in Darren, if that doesn't make sense!)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 05 Sep 2022 08:37
Taylor with the stand out match. The majority of the ties have important observers, and the atmosphere at Celtic Park could be a good test for Scharer.

Pinhiero with a CL debut, with Velasco as observer.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 05 Sep 2022 08:39
Appointments out on UEFA.com

Taylor has Paris v Juventus with German VARs

Kovacs rightly returns

Many mixed VAR teams, UEFA using the "best" irrespective of country.
Given the shambles this weekend just gone English VAR officials deserved to be removed until they can sort out the mess domestically.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 05 Sep 2022 10:46
7 September 2022

18:45 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Ajax (NED) - Rangers (SCO) | Group A
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Fourth Official: Matthias Jöllenbeck (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Itchko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)

18:45 CET - Frankfurt am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) - Sporting CP (POR) | Group D
Referee: Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Roy Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni (ISR)
Fourth Official: Gal Leibovitz (ISR)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolphe Mannaerts (BEL)

21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio Diego Armando Maradona)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - Liverpool (ENG) | Group A
Referee: Carlos Del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Fourth Official: César Soto Grado (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Xavier Estrada Fernandez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stavros Tritsonis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Jānis Mežeckis (LVA)

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Metropolitano)
Atlético Madrid (ESP) - Porto (POR) | Group B
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Elmir Pilav (BIH)
UEFA Delegate: Jeroen Roest (NED)

21:00 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - Bayer Leverkusen (GER) | Group B
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Miloš Gigovic (BIH)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Attila Tömő (HUN)

21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
Barcelona (ESP) - Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) | Group C
Referee: Lawrence Visser (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Rien Vanyzere (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Thibaud Nijssen (BEL)
Fourth Official: Bram Van Driessche (BEL)
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Bozinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Rotem Kamer (ISR)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - Bayern München (GER) | Group C
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Bert Andersson (SWE)

21:00 CET - London (Tottenham Stadium)
Tottenham (ENG) - Olympique Marseille (FRA) | Group D
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Matej Jug (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţór Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Kris Bellon (BEL)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 05 Sep 2022 10:48
Del Cerro Grande in the mix with a good game. Turpin with the big game at the San Siro.

No English VAR as expected.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Mon 05 Sep 2022 11:21
Pejlto with a game at last. If goes well can see him being elite within a year, he’s got bags of talent
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 05 Sep 2022 11:31
Del Cerro Grande in the mix with a good game. Turpin with the big game at the San Siro.

No English VAR as expected.

Del Cerro Grande had the same game just at anfield in 19/20. He had a good game then, hoping for the same.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: edy on Mon 05 Sep 2022 19:34
Pejlto with a game at last. If goes well can see him being elite within a year, he’s got bags of talent

Actually that would be his 3rd CL GS appointment. He had 2 last year. He is definitely Elite material.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 05 Sep 2022 20:09
Pejlto with a game at last. If goes well can see him being elite within a year, he’s got bags of talent

Actually that would be his 3rd CL GS appointment. He had 2 last year. He is definitely Elite material.

Where do we see Collum this season edy? I’m sure he will get an appointment but UEFA clearly doesn’t think that he is deserving of top games.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Mon 05 Sep 2022 22:11
Pejlto with a game at last. If goes well can see him being elite within a year, he’s got bags of talent

Actually that would be his 3rd CL GS appointment. He had 2 last year. He is definitely Elite material.

Thank you for the correction
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 11 Sep 2022 10:10
13 September 2022

18:45 CET - Plzeň (Stadion města Plzně)
Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - FC Internazionale (ITA) | Group C
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jonas Erni (SUI)
Fourth Official: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Lionel Tschudi (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Lundström (FIN)

18:45 CET - Lisbon (Estádio José Alvalade)
Sporting CP (POR) - Tottenham (ENG) | Group D
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Pierre Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Radenko Mijatović (SVN)

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool (ENG) - Ajax (NED) | Group A
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Antonio Nobre (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Argyrou (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Jovan Šurbatović (SRB)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Ibrox Stadium)
Rangers (SCO) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group A
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)

21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
Porto (POR) - Club Brugge (BEL) | Group B
Referee: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Aristotelis Diamantopoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Aggelos Evangelou (GRE)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Malcom (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Michel Schafroth (SUI)

21:00 CET - Leverkusen (BayArena)
Bayer Leverkusen (GER) - Atlético Madrid (ESP) | Group B
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Darren England (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Viktor Kassai (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE)

21:00 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena München)
Bayern München (GER) - Barcelona (ESP) | Group C
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Laurent Duhamel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Blackbourne (ENG)

21:00 CET - Marseille (Vélodrome)
Olympique Marseille (FRA) - Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) | Group D
Referee: José Maria Sanchez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabańero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ińigo Prieto (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt (BEL)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 11 Sep 2022 10:25
It's interesting English vars are back out this round perhaps though with a less significant game, although Atletico are always difficult to officiate. Jovanovic and Scharer with a second game so early is a surprise, but probably highlights the lack of depth in the elite level at the minute. Makkelie with a top game in Munich is no surprise.

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Sun 11 Sep 2022 11:04
Barca’s away kit is yellow, isn’t it? 😁

Would be a big bonus if Danny can’t wear yellow in München. He wore the yellow Nike kit in 2nd league last Friday and it hurt my eyes.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 11 Sep 2022 15:15
Makkelie was a lock for the Bayern game.

Lahoz and his match are now on the Wednesday rather than the Tuesday.

Scharer with an important observer in Plzen. He seemed to do well in the couldron of Celtic Park in the first cluster of games.

Interesting that Irrati is demoted to AVAR after the shambles last time out, although how he keeps getting appointments is a mystery.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 11 Sep 2022 17:22
21:00 CET - Glasgow (Ibrox Stadium)
Rangers (SCO) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group A
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)

Moved from Tuesday to Wednesday as there aren't enough police to cover it on Tuesday!

https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1568933840680370178
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Sun 11 Sep 2022 17:53
Some considerations (a bit more serious this time) 😉

Nice to see Oliver with ATM. After Spain-Portugal (Nations League) another game that could be a heated one, with some players that always put pressure on the referee.

Lahoz is a great referee. Top 5🔝 imo. I don’t think this game really needs him.

Makkelie seems to be trusted a lot with games that have a story and/or are sensitive in some way. To sum up:
- PSG - Basaksehir (Racism incident)
- Real Madrid - Chelsea (shortly after the Super League announcements & Spanish press putting pressure on the referee team
- Opening game EURO (big responsibility)
- Real Madrid - PSG (Real Madrid very angry after the 1st draw went wrong);
- Scotland - Ukraine
- And now Bayern - Barca, 1st meeting in Champions League after that 8-2 humiliation (?), the Lewa transfer saga.

The guy should have some balls of steel to keep his head cool under such pressure. Hopefully no crazy presidents this time. 😞
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 12 Sep 2022 09:44
Appointments are out for all matches apart from the Copenhagen vs Sevilla game where Stuart Atwell is VAR and Chris Kavanagh as AVAR, can I correctly assume Mr Pawson will get his UCL debut?

Glenn Nyberg gets his debut and I think Maurizio Mariani gets his as well
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 12 Sep 2022 09:52
Appointments are out for all matches apart from the Copenhagen vs Sevilla game where Stuart Atwell is VAR and Chris Kavanagh as AVAR, can I correctly assume Mr Pawson will get his UCL debut?

Glenn Nyberg gets his debut and I think Maurizio Mariani gets his as well

1. Won't be an English ref as they are in Man City group. Could be a Scottish ref as they sometimes work with english referees. They can also work with other referees.

2. Craig Pawson has already had his UCL debut in Monaco vs Dortmund in 2018
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 12 Sep 2022 09:57
Makkelie was a lock for the Bayern game.

Lahoz and his match are now on the Wednesday rather than the Tuesday.

Scharer with an important observer in Plzen. He seemed to do well in the couldron of Celtic Park in the first cluster of games.

Interesting that Irrati is demoted to AVAR after the shambles last time out, although how he keeps getting appointments is a mystery.

Irrati is VAR on the Wednesday. Baffling.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 12 Sep 2022 10:15
14 September 2022

18:45 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) | Group E
Referee: Jesus Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Angelo Nevado Rodriguez (ESP)
Fourth Official: Ricardo De Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Strömbergsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Kuanysh Kanapyanov (KAZ)

18:45 CET - Warsaw (Municipal Stadium of Legia Warszawa)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) - Celtic (SCO) | Group F
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Soderkvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Mohammed Al-Hakim (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Sajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Emmanuelle Puttaert (BEL)

21:00 CET - London (Stamford Bridge)
Chelsea (ENG) - FC Salzburg (AUT) | Group E
Referee: Ivan Kruzliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Pozor (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kralovic (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stéphane Lannoy (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Karl Espen Eriksen (NOR)

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Santiago Bernabéu)
Real Madrid (ESP) - Leipzig (GER) | Group F
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Rosario Abisso (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Björn Kuipers (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazancioglu (TUR)

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City (ENG) - Borussia Dortmund (GER) | Group G
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Luca Massimi (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Andreas Schluchter (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: István Huszár (HUN)

21:00 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
FC Copenhagen (DEN) - Sevilla (ESP) | Group G
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Luka Bilbija (BIH)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell (SVN)

21:00 CET - Turin (Juventus Stadium)
Juventus (ITA) - Benfica (POR) | Group H
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Meßner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)

21:00 CET - Haifa (Sammy Ofer Stadium)
Maccabi Haifa (ISR) - Paris Saint Germain (FRA) | Group H
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Daniel Schlager (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Medved (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Michael O'Brien (ENG)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Mon 12 Sep 2022 11:29
Makkelie was a lock for the Bayern game.

Lahoz and his match are now on the Wednesday rather than the Tuesday.

Scharer with an important observer in Plzen. He seemed to do well in the couldron of Celtic Park in the first cluster of games.

Interesting that Irrati is demoted to AVAR after the shambles last time out, although how he keeps getting appointments is a mystery.

Irrati is VAR on the Wednesday. Baffling.

The AVAR on Tuesday is VAR on Wednesday (and vice versa).
Peljto seems to be last minute replacement (Collum?)
Manchester City with another Italian. Napoli another Spaniard. Bad management?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 12 Sep 2022 11:47
Makkelie was a lock for the Bayern game.

Lahoz and his match are now on the Wednesday rather than the Tuesday.

Scharer with an important observer in Plzen. He seemed to do well in the couldron of Celtic Park in the first cluster of games.

Interesting that Irrati is demoted to AVAR after the shambles last time out, although how he keeps getting appointments is a mystery.

Irrati is VAR on the Wednesday. Baffling.

The AVAR on Tuesday is VAR on Wednesday (and vice versa).
Peljto seems to be last minute replacement (Collum?)
Manchester City with another Italian. Napoli another Spaniard. Bad management?

No just a lack of other available games for Spaniards and Italians
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 12 Sep 2022 12:17
Important observers for Mariani and Nyberg on CL debuts.

Italian refereeing is still massively under cooked in the elite ranks, is Mariani of the desired quality for success?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Mon 12 Sep 2022 12:38
As discussed, is it correct that referees aren't normally appointed to a game in the same group as a team from their country? I have a feeling that might be the case, aside from instances near the end of a group stage where for instance the team in question has already won the group/been knocked out and so the other game doesn't impact on them.

If that's the case, it's perhaps a bit of a surprise the same is not applied to VARs.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 12 Sep 2022 12:49
Appointments are out for all matches apart from the Copenhagen vs Sevilla game where Stuart Atwell is VAR and Chris Kavanagh as AVAR, can I correctly assume Mr Pawson will get his UCL debut?

Glenn Nyberg gets his debut and I think Maurizio Mariani gets his as well

1. Won't be an English ref as they are in Man City group. Could be a Scottish ref as they sometimes work with english referees. They can also work with other referees.

2. Craig Pawson has already had his UCL debut in Monaco vs Dortmund in 2018

Thank you
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jad on Wed 14 Sep 2022 15:10

Interesting that Irrati is demoted to AVAR after the shambles last time out, although how he keeps getting appointments is a mystery.

I am continually amused by the amount of vituperation that poor old Massimiliano Irrati comes in for here.  Every time I watch a game on Italian TV and Irrati happens to be serving as the video assistant referee, the commentators make a point of saying that he is universally regarded as the best VARista in the world.  Given the appointments that he does indeed keep receiving, could it be a case of everybody being out of step except this forum?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Wed 14 Sep 2022 15:26

Interesting that Irrati is demoted to AVAR after the shambles last time out, although how he keeps getting appointments is a mystery.

I am continually amused by the amount of vituperation that poor old Massimiliano Irrati comes in for here.  Every time I watch a game on Italian TV and Irrati happens to be serving as the video assistant referee, the commentators make a point of saying that he is universally regarded as the best VARista in the world.  Given the appointments that he does indeed keep receiving, could it be a case of everybody being out of step except this forum?

He was VAR in the world cup final remember. I think by Italian refereeing standards he is the best. Hernandez Hernandez is regarded as the best VARista in the world in Spain. But he has been pretty incompetent in UEFA games. Personally Tomasz Kwiatkowski seems to be the best.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Leggy on Wed 14 Sep 2022 17:02
If VARista is not an official term, then it bl00dy well should be !!!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Sep 2022 19:51
could it be a case of everybody being out of step except this forum?

There's a few that fall into this 'category' - can't do right for love nor money around here but get praised elsewhere. Personal preference and bias certainly comes into play in relation to some names!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Thu 15 Sep 2022 22:16
Just picked up on a dreadful decision by Michael Oliver, supported by VAR Chris Kavanagh, to deny Athletico Madrid a penalty for handball in the first half of the game at Bayer Leverkusen, a game which BL won 2-0 with two late goals. We've been talking recently about 'Champions League' penalties in the PL. Well this was a decision which a park referee would have  been hard put to get wrong, with the hand out away from the body and a header from some distance away clearly making contact with the hand. Michael looked really flustered immediately afterwards and he had good reason to as well! 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 02 Oct 2022 11:21
4 October 2022

18:45 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena München)
Bayern München (GER)- Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) | Group C
Referee: Nicola Dabanovic (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Djukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official:Lazar Lukić (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernandez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Iva Olivari-Ulisa (CRO)

18:45 CET - Marseille (Vélodrome)
Olympique Marseille (FRA) - Sporting CP (POR) | Group D
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Davide Ghersini (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool (ENG) - Rangers (SCO) | Group A
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Sippel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)

21:00 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Ajax (NED) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group A
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoit Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Palencik (SVK)

21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
Porto (POR) - Bayer Leverkusen (GER) | Group B
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Lee Betts (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Angelo Chetcuti (MLT)

21:00 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - Atlético Madrid (ESP) | Group B
Referee: Istvan Kovacs (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Horatiu Fesnic (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Ftiz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win (ENG)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - Barcelona (ESP) | Group C
Referee: Slavko Vincic (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaz Klancnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraz Kovacic (SVN)
Fourth Official: Rade Obenovic (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marinus Koopman (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Olzhas Abrayev (KAZ)

21:00 CET - Frankfurt Am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)  - Tottenham (ENG) | Group D
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Rosario Abisso (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Charles Schaack (LUX)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 02 Oct 2022 11:30
Surprised by the group A appointments, Would’ve thought Letexier and Turpin would’ve been swapped around, Nevertheless huge test for Letexier. Dabanovoc Handed a CL debut with Rosetti Observing.

Taylor possibly a replacement in Porto? Not sure why he’s being observed by Vassaras, Unless he’s inline for something big this season.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Sun 02 Oct 2022 12:28
Taylor possibly a replacement in Porto? Not sure why he’s being observed by Vassaras, Unless he’s inline for something big this season.

Hmmm yes, and two English refs for B.Leverkusen in a row.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 02 Oct 2022 12:31
Surprised by the group A appointments, Would’ve thought Letexier and Turpin would’ve been swapped around, Nevertheless huge test for Letexier. Dabanovoc Handed a CL debut with Rosetti Observing.

Taylor possibly a replacement in Porto? Not sure why he’s being observed by Vassaras, Unless he’s inline for something big this season.

I think they were always going to go with a big hitter at Anfield given the tie.

As mentioned, Dabanovic on debut with Rosetti as observer. Following on from being observed by Rizzoli it seems he is heading for elite.

Taylor is clearly a replacement for someone. He doesn’t need Vassaras as observer.

Vincic with the headline clash at the San Siro.

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 02 Oct 2022 12:34
Not strictly CL match but the following appointment will be greeted on the south coast!

Group A
14:00 CET - Liverpool (AXA Training Centre)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - Rangers FC (SCO)
Referee: Balázs Berke (HUN, 2nd Cat)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Szert (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Bence Belicza (HUN)
Fourth Official: Benjamin Speedie (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Sippel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jiří Novák (CZE)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Sun 02 Oct 2022 13:03
Surprised by the group A appointments, Would’ve thought Letexier and Turpin would’ve been swapped around, Nevertheless huge test for Letexier. Dabanovoc Handed a CL debut with Rosetti Observing.

Taylor possibly a replacement in Porto? Not sure why he’s being observed by Vassaras, Unless he’s inline for something big this season.

I think they were always going to go with a big hitter at Anfield given the tie.

Isn’t the derby game in Scotland supposed to be more challenging, given the good home/ bad away record of Rangers?

Frankly, I’m also a bit surprised by Turpin in Liverpool and Letexier in Amsterdam. The A’dam game is normally supposed to be the tighter and challenging game (incl. hotheads, theatrics and a few ‘troublemakers’) 😉
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 02 Oct 2022 13:10
Surprised by the group A appointments, Would’ve thought Letexier and Turpin would’ve been swapped around, Nevertheless huge test for Letexier. Dabanovoc Handed a CL debut with Rosetti Observing.

Taylor possibly a replacement in Porto? Not sure why he’s being observed by Vassaras, Unless he’s inline for something big this season.

I think they were always going to go with a big hitter at Anfield given the tie.

As mentioned, Dabanovic on debut with Rosetti as observer. Following on from being observed by Rizzoli it seems he is heading for elite.

Taylor is clearly a replacement for someone. He doesn’t need Vassaras as observer.

Vincic with the headline clash at the San Siro.

Whilst the game in anfield may attract more media buzz, the game in Amsterdam will be a lot tighter and more difficult to officiate imo. Will probaby be Very crucial to group standings.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 02 Oct 2022 15:39
Full appointments are out…

4 October 2022

18:45 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena München)
Bayern München (GER)- Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) | Group C
Referee: Nicola Dabanovic (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Djukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official:Lazar Lukić (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernandez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Iva Olivari-Ulisa (CRO)

18:45 CET - Marseille (Vélodrome)
Olympique Marseille (FRA) - Sporting CP (POR) | Group D
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Davide Ghersini (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool (ENG) - Rangers (SCO) | Group A
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Sippel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Fernand Meese (BEL)

21:00 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Ajax (NED) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group A
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoit Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Palencik (SVK)

21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
Porto (POR) - Bayer Leverkusen (GER) | Group B
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Lee Betts (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Angelo Chetcuti (MLT)

21:00 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - Atlético Madrid (ESP) | Group B
Referee: Istvan Kovacs (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Horatiu Fesnic (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Ftiz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win (ENG)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - Barcelona (ESP) | Group C
Referee: Slavko Vincic (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaz Klancnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraz Kovacic (SVN)
Fourth Official: Rade Obenovic (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marinus Koopman (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Olzhas Abrayev (KAZ)

21:00 CET - Frankfurt Am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)  - Tottenham (ENG) | Group D
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Rosario Abisso (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Charles Schaack (LUX)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Sun 02 Oct 2022 22:50
No way the game at Anfield needs Turpin. The game in Amsterdam will be mouth tougher. Liverpool are an easy team to referee really.

Compounded by the poor reputation in recent times of England/English teams with Turpin as well it doesn’t make much sense.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:44
No way the game at Anfield needs Turpin. The game in Amsterdam will be mouth tougher. Liverpool are an easy team to referee really.

I had the impression that Turpin has been blatantly protected in 2022. Before that UCL final, after the UCL final.
He’s appointed to good games, but never the most fiery one, the headline game of the day, or otherwise something risky/sensitive. Especially compared to Taylor, Makkelie, Orsato, and Marciniak. They are much much more exposed IMO.

Let’s wait for his next appointments though…
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksback on Mon 03 Oct 2022 10:28
No way the game at Anfield needs Turpin. The game in Amsterdam will be mouth tougher. Liverpool are an easy team to referee really.

Compounded by the poor reputation in recent times of England/English teams with Turpin as well it doesn’t make much sense.

Disagree. Two British teams who are vastly opposite politically, first time they've ever played each other competitively (incredibly). Needs an experienced head.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 03 Oct 2022 11:15
5 October 2022

18:45 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) | Group E
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjoņņikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Raymond Ellingham (WAL)
UEFA Delegate: Georges Lüchinger (LIE)

18:45 CET - Leipzig (RB Arena)
Leipzig (GER) - Celtic (SCO) | Group F
Referee: Espen Eskĺs (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Erik Engan (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Isaak Elias Bashevkin (NOR)
Fourth Official: Svein Oddvar Moen (NOR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Sajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Miroslaw Ryszka (POL)

21:00 CET - London (Stamford Bridge)
Chelsea (ENG) - AC Milan (ITA) | Group E
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Frédéric Veraghaenne (BEL)

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Santiago Bernabéu)
Real Madrid (ESP) - Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) | Group F
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Pozor (SVK)
Fourth Official: Peter Kralović (SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan W. Wegereef (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Steen Dahrup (DEN)

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City (ENG) - Copenhagen (DEN) | Group G
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Manfredas Lukjančukas (LTU)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)

21:00 CET - Seville (Estadio Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán)
Sevilla (ESP) - Borussia Dortmund (GER) | Group G
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Fourth Official: Livio Marinelli (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeckere (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)

21:00 CET - Turin (Juventus Stadium)
Juventus (ITA) - Maccabi Haifa (ISR) | Group H
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alain Bieri (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz Michael Fröhlich (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Kofoed (DEN)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do SL Benfica)
Benfica (POR) - Paris Saint Germain (FRA) | Group H
Referee: Jesus Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Angel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official: Miguel Ortiz (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernandez (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dejan Filipović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen (NOR)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: K16 on Mon 03 Oct 2022 11:30
Finally good news for Norwegian refereeing!  Seems like Rossetti was very pleased with Eskĺs in his Europa League game the other week.
Svein Oddvar Moen was the last Norwegian to referee in the CL in February 2016, and now he is the fourth official.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 03 Oct 2022 11:51
Finally good news for Norwegian refereeing!  Seems like Rossetti was very pleased with Eskĺs in his Europa League game the other week.
Svein Oddvar Moen was the last Norwegian to referee in the CL in February 2016, and now he is the fourth official.

And an important observer too…

A Spanish refereeing team with their regular trip across the border to Portugal and Makkelie back in London.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: JCFC on Mon 03 Oct 2022 12:11
Pleased to see Donatas Rumšas in the group stages. He impressed very much in a lively match at Foila Esch in 2017, when still in Group 3 - the best at that level I had seen (in a limited field!) and much more to my liking than Nicola Dabanovic had been the night before at Dudelange.

We'll probably find in a couple of days that City fans disagree!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: scottie on Mon 03 Oct 2022 15:33
Do we think we will see Willie Collum in the CL Group stages ever again?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 03 Oct 2022 16:25
Big Game for Mariani on only his second CL game.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ryan80 on Mon 03 Oct 2022 17:43
Finally good news for Norwegian refereeing!  Seems like Rossetti was very pleased with Eskĺs in his Europa League game the other week.
Svein Oddvar Moen was the last Norwegian to referee in the CL in February 2016, and now he is the fourth official.

Why did Svein Oddvar Moen fall out of favour?  I am sure he was often given big knockout champions league games.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 03 Oct 2022 19:08
Big Game for Mariani on only his second CL game.

Italian refereeeing has been in decline in terms of elite officials in recent years since Rizzoli et all departed the scene.

I’m sure Rosetti is very keen to get four elite officials in the house as soon as possible.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: K16 on Mon 03 Oct 2022 19:53
Finally good news for Norwegian refereeing!  Seems like Rossetti was very pleased with Eskĺs in his Europa League game the other week.
Svein Oddvar Moen was the last Norwegian to referee in the CL in February 2016, and now he is the fourth official.

Why did Svein Oddvar Moen fall out of favour?  I am sure he was often given big knockout champions league games.

I think it started to go downwards after the Iceland v Finland game in October 2016 when he only booked a Finnish player who grabbed his shirt and pulled him back. It was clearly a red card and he was taken off a European game later.

He never did a CL game again but he refereed some EL games the season after. He had a Conference League qualifier in July this year, his first European game for three years.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: flipmode on Tue 04 Oct 2022 09:26
We'll probably find in a couple of days that City fans disagree!

I'll try my best
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Tue 04 Oct 2022 10:48
no sign of Oliver in this set of match days he's been absent since matchday 1- must have done something wrong?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Tue 04 Oct 2022 15:28
no sign of Oliver in this set of match days he's been absent since matchday 1- must have done something wrong?

Theres been 3 matchdays and he had a game in week 2, He’s not the only elite ref without a game this week, he isn’t gonna get appointments every single gameweek.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Wed 05 Oct 2022 11:08
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1577587406886281218

Thoughts on this?

Looks like a penalty to me. Only debate is if it actually hits his hand.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:38
point taken hertsref123 Oliver has had 1 game in the 3 matchdays so far and Uefa are probably giving games to other upcoming refs to see how they do alongside the ones you expect to see at this level and yes Oliver isn't the only elite ref without a game count Brych into that
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:06
point taken hertsref123 Oliver has had 1 game in the 3 matchdays so far and Uefa are probably giving games to other upcoming refs to see how they do alongside the ones you expect to see at this level and yes Oliver isn't the only elite ref without a game count Brych into that

Brych has retired sadly.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Fri 07 Oct 2022 09:24
oops didn't realise Brych had retired

im sure Oliver will get a game on match day 4
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 09 Oct 2022 10:51
11 October 2022

18:45 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
Copenhagen (DEN) - Manchester City | Group G
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Fabio Verissimo (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Leslie Irvine (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Balázs Makray (HUN)

18:45 CET - Haifa (Sammy Ofer Stadium)
Maccabi Haifa (ISR) - Juventus (ITA) | Group H
Referee: Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Mario Melero Lopez (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo De Burgos (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jřrn West Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Andrey Medintsev (BUL)

21:00 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - Salzburg (AUT) | Group E
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Eduard Beitinger (GER)
Fourth Official: Martin Petersen (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benjamin Brand (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mehmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Marcin Stefanski (POL)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - Chelsea (ENG) | Group E
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Daniel Schlager (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)

21:00 CET - Warsaw (Municipal Stadium of Legia Warszaw)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) - Real Madrid (ESP) | Group F
Referee: Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Roy Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni (ISR)
Fourth Official: Eitan Shmuelevitz (ISR)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: David Fuxman (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Adonis Procopiou (CYP)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Celtic Park)
Celtic (SCO) - Leipzig (GER) | Group F
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Manuel Díaz Vega (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)

21:00 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Sevilla (ESP) | Group G
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Haim Jakov (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint Germain (FRA) - Benfica (POR) | Group H
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Gijs De Jong (NED)

Edited to add colour, I forgot I'd confiscated HertsRef's crayons. He drew on the staffroom walls! bmb
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 09 Oct 2022 12:29
Dias being observed by Irvine. Demotion maybe? Group decided for Oliver
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Sun 09 Oct 2022 12:55
11 October 2022
 
21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint Germain (FRA) - Benfica (POR) | Group H
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Gijs De Jong (NED)


Glad he is getting a match in Matchweek 4, fully deserved and getting top matches as well.

Darren England, assisted by James Mainwaring and Wade Smith, referees the youth league version of this fixture, on the same day.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Sun 09 Oct 2022 13:49
Is it usual for a referee to be appointed to a Sunday league game and then a Tuesday CL game? It wouldn't happen for a club.

Oliver is due to referee Arsenal V Liverpool today I believe.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 09 Oct 2022 15:16
Is it usual for a referee to be appointed to a Sunday league game and then a Tuesday CL game? It wouldn't happen for a club.

Oliver is due to referee Arsenal V Liverpool today I believe.

FIFA won’t be happy. They have said referees should not be getting games every 3rd match day or less. Other Federations are complying with this but yet again the PL think they’re special and ignore it completely. He literally just falls outside the UEFA min 48hrs between games. Disgraceful by the PGMOL. They would have known about the CL game 10 days ago.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Sun 09 Oct 2022 15:21
Have there been other instances of it happening? It's not something I really remember coming across before which is why it stood out to me. Is it possible the PSG appointment was a late change?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 09 Oct 2022 15:31
Have there been other instances of it happening? It's not something I really remember coming across before which is why it stood out to me. Is it possible the PSG appointment was a late change?

No it was known at least a week ago
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 09 Oct 2022 16:08
Hopefully when Webb takes over, we stamp this nonsense out and start treating our officials better, and in line with what the rest of Europe are doing. Its not as if Oliver was the only ref who could do Arsenal V Liverpool. Hopefully he gets a rest next weekend.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 09 Oct 2022 17:04
Hopefully when Webb takes over, we stamp this nonsense out and start treating our officials better, and in line with what the rest of Europe are doing. Its not as if Oliver was the only ref who could do Arsenal V Liverpool. Hopefully he gets a rest next weekend.

Cue a 4O, VAR then middle for him next weekend then...
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Sun 09 Oct 2022 17:40
Hopefully when Webb takes over, we stamp this nonsense out and start treating our officials better, and in line with what the rest of Europe are doing. Its not as if Oliver was the only ref who could do Arsenal V Liverpool. Hopefully he gets a rest next weekend.

Has it happened before in PL? I remember Lee Probert replacing Martin Atkinson on a Chelsea V Liverpool game around 10 years ago because Atkinson got a Tues CL appointment. I don't recall other instances of it happening but I might just not have noticed.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: edy on Sun 09 Oct 2022 17:59
There were at least 2 cases in Spain where a referee had an EL appointment on 21:00 CET and a La Liga match on Saturday at 12:30 CET. 36 hours between the 2 matches.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Sun 09 Oct 2022 18:37
 Two games in three days for Oliver ridiculous management. Why didn't Pawson referee the game today.

edited out - needless.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 09 Oct 2022 21:33
There were at least 2 cases in Spain where a referee had an EL appointment on 21:00 CET and a La Liga match on Saturday at 12:30 CET. 36 hours between the 2 matches.

That is dreadful
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 10 Oct 2022 09:19
12 October 2022

18:45 CET - Naples (Stadio Diego Armando Maradona)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - Ajax (NED) | Group A
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)

18:45 CET - Madrid (Estadio Metropolitano)
Atlético Madrid (ESP) - Club Brugge (BEL) | Group B
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Aggelos Evangelou (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mike Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Evans (WAL)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Ibrox Stadium)
Rangers (SCO) - Liverpool (ENG) | Group A
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Alen Borošak (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazovic (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Iveta Bankova (BUL)

21:00 CET - Leverkusen (BayArena)
Bayer Leverkusen (GER) - Porto (POR) | Group B
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Marica (ROU)
Fourth Official: Cătălin Popa (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi (SMR)
UEFA Delegate: Jack Grundie (NIR)

21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
Barcelona (ESP) - FC Internazionale (ITA) | Group C
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucilio Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Romano Clavedetscher (SUI)

21:00 CET -  Plzeň (Stadion města Plzně)
Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - Bayern München (GER) | Group C
Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Jakub Winkler (POL)
Fourth Official: Krzysztof Jakubik (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marcin Borkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Thibault De Gendt (BEL)

21:00 CET - London (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium)
Tottenham (ENG) - Eintracht Frankfrut (GER) | Group D
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Luca Zorzi (SUI)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio José Alvalade)
Sporting CP (POR) - Olympique Marseille (FRA) | Group D
Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: José Naranjo (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Sanchez Rojo (ESP)
Fourth Official: César Soto Grado (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Ricardo de Burgos (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Björn Kuipers (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Duncan Fraser (SCO)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 10 Oct 2022 09:31
Thank you UEFA for appointing Danny & István to games with a different kick off time. Makes my life easier!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 10 Oct 2022 11:24
Thank you UEFA for appointing Danny & István to games with a different kick off time. Makes my life easier!

I will also point out, as we have been discussing it, that both of them only had 1 VAR appointment each at the weekend following last week's midweek CL games & their forthcoming CL games this week. Their respective games were also ones with shorter travel distances. Well done to the FRF & KNVB for considering their referee's welfare. PGMOL take note.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: JCFC on Mon 10 Oct 2022 11:28
As a matter of interest, who actually makes the Premier League appointments?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 10 Oct 2022 11:30
I think it is Jon Moss these days. Happy to be corrected though if I am wrong on that.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Whistleblower on Mon 10 Oct 2022 12:21
The idea of Mike Riley being the UEFA Referee Observer for Danny Makkelie has a vaguely ludicrous ring to it, akin to me being an Official Observer to the Judgements delivered by Lord Reed of Allermuir, the President of the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 10 Oct 2022 13:48
The idea of Mike Riley being the UEFA Referee Observer for Danny Makkelie has a vaguely ludicrous ring to it, akin to me being an Official Observer to the Judgements delivered by Lord Reed of Allermuir, the President of the Supreme Court.

I guess being one of the top referees in the world he doesn't need a big name observer these days
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 10 Oct 2022 18:22
Important observers for Hernandez Hernandez and Vincic.

Marciniak with the plum tie and fully deserved.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Mon 10 Oct 2022 21:31
What have Stéphanie Frappart's UEFA appointments been like this season ahead of World Cup?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 10 Oct 2022 23:02
What have Stéphanie Frappart's UEFA appointments been like this season ahead of World Cup?
She's had 2 europa league group stage games
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Readingfan on Tue 11 Oct 2022 14:36
What have Stéphanie Frappart's UEFA appointments been like this season ahead of World Cup?
She's had 2 europa league group stage games

Thanks. As discussed before, I'm not sure there's a complete consistency between FIFA and UEFA's appointments in this regard. I'd certainly be expecting a referee going to the World Cup to be having regular CL appointments in the group stage.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Tue 11 Oct 2022 17:07
She is in charge of a WWC play off final tonight
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:05
A considerable number of VAR interventions last night if the BT highlights are anything to go by, and a number of overturned decisions including Makkelie at Athletico Madrid. I wonder what Mr Riley made of that one. Most interventions seemed justified although, once more, we had a 'Euro penalty award' for hands which was outrageous - ball hammered from no great distance towards the defender who was turning his back and had his hands by his side.     
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 13 Oct 2022 09:56
A considerable number of VAR interventions last night if the BT highlights are anything to go by, and a number of overturned decisions including Makkelie at Athletico Madrid. I wonder what Mr Riley made of that one. Most interventions seemed justified although, once more, we had a 'Euro penalty award' for hands which was outrageous - ball hammered from no great distance towards the defender who was turning his back and had his hands by his side.     

The one in Danny's game was a great intervention. No way he could have seen the attacker initiated the contact in real time, it was on his blindside. That was a perfect example of how VAR should work. One in István's game as well, he'd booked an attacked for a dive but after VAR intervention and an OFR he rescinded the yellow & gave the penalty.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: guest644 on Thu 13 Oct 2022 12:43
A considerable number of VAR interventions last night if the BT highlights are anything to go by, and a number of overturned decisions including Makkelie at Athletico Madrid. I wonder what Mr Riley made of that one. Most interventions seemed justified although, once more, we had a 'Euro penalty award' for hands which was outrageous - ball hammered from no great distance towards the defender who was turning his back and had his hands by his side.     

The one in Danny's game was a great intervention. No way he could have seen the attacker initiated the contact in real time, it was on his blindside. That was a perfect example of how VAR should work. One in István's game as well, he'd booked an attacked for a dive but after VAR intervention and an OFR he rescinded the yellow & gave the penalty.

Oh yes.

I’m sooo glad that VAR Dennis Higler invited Danny Makkelie to re-view the incident. Just imagine, in case VAR supported the on-field decision, I’m pretty sure there would be a “step-on-achilles” image on the front page of the Spanish newspapers. That would create some damage for Makkelie, who (I agree with bmb) in full speed couldn’t assess this properly. Now, they punished the ”first” and “most severe” foul. Expected decision. 1000% agree.

Imo a great advertisement for the existence of VAR (!) and great teamwork. UEFA should be happy.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 23 Oct 2022 09:57
25 October 2022

18:45 CET - Salzburg (Stadion Salzburg)
FC Salzburg (AUT) - Chelsea (ENG)  | Group E
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane de Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Alessandro Dudic (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucilio Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Björn Fecker (GER)

18:45 CET - Seville (Estadio Ramón Sánchez-Pizjuán)
Sevilla (ESP) - FC Copenhagen (DEN) | Group G
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aurélien Berthomieu (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Lamprini Dimitrou (GRE) 

21:00  CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) - AC Milan (ITA) | Group E
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musiał (POL)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Lyon (GIB)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Celtic Park)
Celtic (SCO) - Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) | Group F
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA)

21:00 CET - Leipzig (RB Arena)
Leipzig (GER) - Real Madrid (ESP) | Group F
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Antonov (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Rotem Kamer (ISR)

21:00 CET - Dortmund (BVB Stadion)
Borussia Dortmund (GER) - Manchester City (ENG) | Group G
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Rosario Abisso (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Bakar Jordania (GEO)

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint Germain (FRA) - Maccabi Haifa (ISR) | Group H
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vitor Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Loukas Siotropos (GRE)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
Benfica (POR) - Juventus (ITA) | Group H
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Momčilo Marković (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Petr Fousek (CZE)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: edy on Sun 23 Oct 2022 11:40
Mostly normal appointments.

Orsato and Massa with big matches. Gozubuyuk is back on CL after a long time. Zwayer for PSG at home and Jovanovic on the other match of the Group.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Sun 23 Oct 2022 11:51
Are we expecting some English involvement this week with both Atwell and Kavanagh on AVAR duty
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Sun 23 Oct 2022 12:55
Are we expecting some English involvement this week with both Atwell and Kavanagh on AVAR duty

Yes
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 24 Oct 2022 10:27
26 October 2022

18:45 CET - Bruges (Jan Breydelstadion)
Club Brugge (BEL) - Porto (POR)  | Group B
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Pierre Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Kremer (LUX)

18:45 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)  | Group C
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Niklas Nyberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Tompkins (ENG)

21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio Diego Armando Maradona)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - Rangers (SCO)  | Group A
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eysoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Repka (CZE)

21:00 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Ajax (NED) - Liverpool (ENG)  | Group A
Referee: Jose Maria Sanchez Martinez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Raúl Cabańero (ESP
Assistant Referee 2: Ińigo Prieto (ESP)
Fourth Official:  César Soto Grado (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee:  Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Tormod Larsen (NOR)

21:00 CET - Madrid (Estadio Metropolitano)
Atlético Madrid (ESP) - Bayer Leverkusen (GER)  | Group B
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Iain Blair (SCO)

21:00 CET - Barcelona (Camp Nou)
Barcelona (ESP) - Bayern München (GER)  | Group C
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Robert Jones (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: David Coote (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Edgars Pukinsks (LVA)


21:00 CET - London (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium)
Tottenham (ENG) -  Sporting CP (POR)  | Group D
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol vanBoekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Itchko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell (SVN)

21:00 CET - Frankfurt Am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) - Olympique de Marseille (FRA)  | Group D
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mike Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Artur Azaryan (ARM)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: edy on Mon 24 Oct 2022 11:40
Unexpected and big appointment for Sanchez Martinez. The Spanish is far from convincing and this match could be a hot one.

Not so big match for Makkelie. Taylor with Barcelona's last chance. Oliver and Turpin for Group B. Atletico does create some trouble to the committee.

Low kew match for Meier. This match should go to a 1st Group referee.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 24 Oct 2022 11:43
Another trip to London for Missy bmb then!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 24 Oct 2022 12:11
That’s a big fourth official appointment for Jones too.

Meier with an important observer, but as stated, a 1st group official would have been appropriate. 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: greeny on Mon 24 Oct 2022 12:23
Great game for Taylor, especially as it's a must win game for Barcelona, and a pretty big game for Oliver too.  Looking at the table in group D, although not as high profile as Taylor's game, that's still an important game for Makkelie.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 24 Oct 2022 23:48
Oliver in Belgium will be fine for him. It’s not that big of a game at all.

Wondering how he will travel to Belgium. From experience of travelling to Bruges. It isn’t well connected by plane. Nearest airport with flight to UK is Brussels. That’s an hour away. Long travel times for Oliver. Perhaps a private plane to a closer airport?
 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: greeny on Wed 26 Oct 2022 19:41
Oliver's been fine - quite a niggly game where it's difficult to shine, but can't thing of anything he got wrong.  Two minor things - he did blow too early for a foul in the first half with a Bruges player through on goal, and a questionable lack of injury time in the second half (not that it mattered) despite a number of VAR checks.  He was ably assisted by Kavanagh, who had a busy time of it at the start of the second half - with recommending a review for Michael for a penalty which ended up being awarded (Michael had his back turned when it happened), and then he spotted encroachment at the penalty leading to a retake.   Good night all round for the English team.

Looking forward to seeing the other team in action shortly, in a game which now has little riding on it thanks to Inter's result.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: greeny on Wed 26 Oct 2022 22:20
Taylor was OK, a couple of missed decisions on corners, Beswick had a non-offside decision overturned, and Anthony had a penalty overturned.  Not horrendous decisions originally, but correctly overturned.  Adam Nunn made some excellent tight calls on offsides (or not offside in some cases).

Big controversy is at Tottenham, where there is a lot of debate over whether VAR should have ruled out Kane's goal.  I'd need another look at it to decide but it looked very tight.  Conte rightly sent off for his OTT reaction.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 26 Oct 2022 22:23
Very tight
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Wed 26 Oct 2022 22:32
https://streamja.com/WzlEr

The penalty given by Oliver after OFR. The attacker appears to stand on the defender first. Apparently Oliver wasn’t shown this.

If Kavanagh saw the stand and deemed it a foul then what happens does he call the OFR?

Surely it’s a red not yellow though for VC?

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 26 Oct 2022 22:57
Very tight

He's offside. MM in it but a correct call. Impossible for Danny or Hessel to see in real time. Another masterclass from Danny and his team in my humble opinion. Jan made a couple of excellent calls in the first half as well. Disallowed goal for scoring with hand. Well done Danny & team. Observer will be very happy with that performance
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Wed 26 Oct 2022 23:03
Very tight

He's offside. MM in it but a correct call. Impossible for Danny or Hessel to see in real time. Another masterclass from Danny and his team in my humble opinion. Jan made a couple of excellent calls in the first half as well. Disallowed goal for scoring with hand. Well done Danny & team. Observer will be very happy with that performance

Has Danny Makkelie got a new whistle style. He used to have his whistle on a landlord on his right hand. Now he holds it.

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 26 Oct 2022 23:11
Very tight

He's offside. MM in it but a correct call. Impossible for Danny or Hessel to see in real time. Another masterclass from Danny and his team in my humble opinion. Jan made a couple of excellent calls in the first half as well. Disallowed goal for scoring with hand. Well done Danny & team. Observer will be very happy with that performance

Has Danny Makkelie got a new whistle style. He used to have his whistle on a landlord on his right hand. Now he holds it.



Yes he is experimenting with the finger thing - I don't know what it's called. First time was at the weekend domestically and then 2nd time today. I did moan at him about using the 1 handed advantage signal tonight as well!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ACTref on Wed 26 Oct 2022 23:17
Very tight

He's offside. MM in it but a correct call. Impossible for Danny or Hessel to see in real time. Another masterclass from Danny and his team in my humble opinion. Jan made a couple of excellent calls in the first half as well. Disallowed goal for scoring with hand. Well done Danny & team. Observer will be very happy with that performance

Has Danny Makkelie got a new whistle style. He used to have his whistle on a landlord on his right hand. Now he holds it.



Yes he is experimenting with the finger thing - I don't know what it's called. First time was at the weekend domestically and then 2nd time today. I did moan at him about using the 1 handed advantage signal tonight as well!

It's a Molten Valkeen on a flip-grip! Very nice whistle to use, no doubt getting used to it before the world cup where they appear to be semi-standard issue.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Wed 26 Oct 2022 23:24
Very tight

He's offside. MM in it but a correct call. Impossible for Danny or Hessel to see in real time. Another masterclass from Danny and his team in my humble opinion. Jan made a couple of excellent calls in the first half as well. Disallowed goal for scoring with hand. Well done Danny & team. Observer will be very happy with that performance

Has Danny Makkelie got a new whistle style. He used to have his whistle on a landlord on his right hand. Now he holds it.



Yes he is experimenting with the finger thing - I don't know what it's called. First time was at the weekend domestically and then 2nd time today. I did moan at him about using the 1 handed advantage signal tonight as well!

It's a Molten Valkeen on a flip-grip! Very nice whistle to use, no doubt getting used to it before the world cup where they appear to be semi-standard issue.

Nice to whistle with but I think lanyard helps draw cards quicker.

Surely it’s not a must the World Cup. Both Taylor and a Oliver use lanyards. In fact most if not all English referees bar Mike Dean do
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Wed 26 Oct 2022 23:30
First time I have seen Jose Maria Sanchez Martinez referee a game tonight. He was excellent. Really calm and composed with good decisions throughout, just a few fouls here and there and one offside wrong.

He isn’t like the other Spanish referees who whistle too many fouls like Dell Cerro

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ACTref on Thu 27 Oct 2022 00:26
Very tight

He's offside. MM in it but a correct call. Impossible for Danny or Hessel to see in real time. Another masterclass from Danny and his team in my humble opinion. Jan made a couple of excellent calls in the first half as well. Disallowed goal for scoring with hand. Well done Danny & team. Observer will be very happy with that performance

Has Danny Makkelie got a new whistle style. He used to have his whistle on a landlord on his right hand. Now he holds it.



Yes he is experimenting with the finger thing - I don't know what it's called. First time was at the weekend domestically and then 2nd time today. I did moan at him about using the 1 handed advantage signal tonight as well!

It's a Molten Valkeen on a flip-grip! Very nice whistle to use, no doubt getting used to it before the world cup where they appear to be semi-standard issue.

Nice to whistle with but I think lanyard helps draw cards quicker.

Surely it’s not a must the World Cup. Both Taylor and a Oliver use lanyards. In fact most if not all English referees bar Mike Dean do

From an 'outsider' perspective, the whistle lanyard feels like a very English thing. Barely anyone in Aus uses a lanyard, and Jarred always looks somewhat out of place in the prem without one!
That said, maybe it's us who are the outsiders on that regard...

I've noticed Oliver carries a Fox40 classic and a Valkeen on his lanyard in some matches. I've found the Valkeen is generally easier to hear in the 'bigger' matches with jam-packed stadiums compared to the Fox40. That said, I personally find the Fox40 as having a greater whistle tone variation.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 27 Oct 2022 11:44
Nice to whistle with but I think lanyard helps draw cards quicker.

Didn't stop him being able to draw them pretty quickly! He's still old style with the cards together in a notepad, wonder when he will switch to the different cards in different pockets!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Thu 27 Oct 2022 22:29
Nice to whistle with but I think lanyard helps draw cards quicker.

Didn't stop him being able to draw them pretty quickly! He's still old style with the cards together in a notepad, wonder when he will switch to the different cards in different pockets!

Forgot he did that. English style is right pocket for yellow. Some have it in the left pocket, Tierney I think. Only Attwell has it high. I prefer Turpin method. Yellow shirt left (where makkelie keeps his cards) and back pocket for red. Like Brych as well. That or the Kuipers and Taylor style of yellow in short right and red shirt left

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 30 Oct 2022 12:55
1 November 2022

18:45 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
FC Porto (POR) - Atlético Madrid (ESP)  | Group B
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Davide Massa (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Thomas Ross (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Igor Radojčić (SRB)

18:45 CET - Leverkusen (BayArena)
Bayer Leverkusen (GER) - Club Brugge (BEL)  | Group B
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Fabiano Preti (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Fourth Official: Francesco Fourneau (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Kofoed (DEN)

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool  FC (ENG) - SSC Napoli (ITA) | Group A
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Mark Borsch (GER)
Fourth Official: Martin Petersen (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)

21:00 CET - Glasgow (Ibrox Stadium)
Rangers (SCO) - Ajax (NED)  | Group A
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Joakim Östling (SWE)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Atttwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Neale Barry (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Georges Lüchinger (LIE)

21:00 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena München)
Bayern München (GER) - FC Internazionale (ITA)  | Group C
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan Pozor (SVK)
Fourth Official: Michal Ocenᚠ(SVK)
Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Björn Kuipers (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Dane Jošt (SVN)

21:00 CET - Plzeň (Stadion města Plzně)
Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) - FC Barcelona (ESP) | Group C
Referee: Radu Petrescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Radu Ghinguleac (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mircea Mihail Grigoriu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Marcel Birsan (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Bert Andersson (SWE)

21:00 CET - Marseille (Vélodrome)
Olympique Marseille (FRA) - Tottenham (ENG)  | Group D
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musial (POL)
Video Assistant Referee:Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingversson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Steen Dahrup (DEN)

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio José Alvalade)
Sporting CP (POR) - Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) | Group D
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: David Smajc (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jon Eilif Skjervold (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Neil Morrow (NIR)       
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: greeny on Sun 30 Oct 2022 13:20
Marciniak and Vincic with the most important matches here.  Some lesser seen names elsewhere, including Stieler at Anfield.  I did think Stieler was going to be the next top referee from Germany, but his star has somewhat waned in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 30 Oct 2022 19:20
A Champions League debut for Petrescu with an important observer.

Vassaras in the UK to observing Stieler and Kuipers out and about too.

Nyberg with a dead rubber.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 31 Oct 2022 10:06
2 November 2022

18:45 CET - Madrid (Estadio Santiago Bernabéu)
Real Madrid  (ESP) - Celtic (SCO)  | Group F
Referee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Mikael Berchebru (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Pagčs (FRA)
Fourth Official: Johan Hamel (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Svilokos (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Kris Bellon (BEL)

18:45 CET - Warsaw (Municipal Stadium of Legia Warszawa)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) - Leipzig (GER)  | Group F
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Darren England (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee:  David Coote (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Efraim Barak (ISR)

21:00 CET - London (Stamford Bridge)
Chelsea (ENG) - Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)  | Group E
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Desislava Ralkova (BUL)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - FC Salzburg (AUT)  | Group E
Referee: Antonio Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto del Palomar (ESP)
Fourth Official: Ricardo de Burgos (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dejan Filipović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Bos (NED)

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City (ENG) - Sevilla (ESP)  | Group G
Referee: Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Roy Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni (ISR)
Fourth Official: Gal Leibovitz (ISR)
Video Assistant Referee: Roi Reinshreiber (ISR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nuno Castro (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyak (SVK)

21:00 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
FC Copenhagen (DEN) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)  | Group G
Referee: Aliyar Aghayev (AZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Zeynal Zeynalov (AZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Akif Amirali (AZE)
Fourth Official: Kamal Umudlu (AZE)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Gerry O'Hagan (SCO)

21:00 CET - Turin (Juventus Stadium)
Juventus (ITA) - Paris Saint Germain (FRA)  | Group H
Referee: Carlos Del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera Montero (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Božinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)

21:00  CET - Haifa (Sammy Ofer Stadium)
Maccabi Haifa (ISR) - Benfica (POR)  | Group H
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Robert Jones (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER) 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Mon 31 Oct 2022 13:28
Taylor and Oliver on duty for the last rd of games for Wednesday lets hope more English involvement Thursday in the europa league/conference league
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 31 Oct 2022 17:30
Games in Group G are dead rubbers completely… although I think this will be the first Azeri referee in the Champions League, which is an an achievement.

Massive games in Group D as all four teams can qualify.

Taylor’s game is important too for qualification, Oliver’s less so.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Ref Fan on Tue 01 Nov 2022 09:48
Games in Group G are dead rubbers completely… although I think this will be the first Azeri referee in the Champions League, which is an an achievement.

Massive games in Group D as all four teams can qualify.

Taylor’s game is important too for qualification, Oliver’s less so.

Is that the right way round in terms of Taylor's and Oliver's games or am I missing something?  I thought Shakhtar or Leipzig can qualify in Oliver's game, whereas Benfica are through and Maccabi are eliminated in Taylor's.  Out of interest, if Shakhtar beat Leipzig so they both finish on 9 points, what is the determining factor - goal difference overall, number of wins, results and goal difference in their 2 matches, or what?

 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Tue 01 Nov 2022 10:19
Games in Group G are dead rubbers completely… although I think this will be the first Azeri referee in the Champions League, which is an an achievement.

Massive games in Group D as all four teams can qualify.

Taylor’s game is important too for qualification, Oliver’s less so.

Is that the right way round in terms of Taylor's and Oliver's games or am I missing something?  I thought Shakhtar or Leipzig can qualify in Oliver's game, whereas Benfica are through and Maccabi are eliminated in Taylor's.  Out of interest, if Shakhtar beat Leipzig so they both finish on 9 points, what is the determining factor - goal difference overall, number of wins, results and goal difference in their 2 matches, or what?

Head to Head so Shakhtar will go through if they win.

Taylor’s game is important as Benefica can still win the group and Maccabi can still get Europa League
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: tef on Tue 01 Nov 2022 11:02
Games in Group G are dead rubbers completely… although I think this will be the first Azeri referee in the Champions League, which is an an achievement.

Massive games in Group D as all four teams can qualify.

Taylor’s game is important too for qualification, Oliver’s less so.

Is that the right way round in terms of Taylor's and Oliver's games or am I missing something?  I thought Shakhtar or Leipzig can qualify in Oliver's game, whereas Benfica are through and Maccabi are eliminated in Taylor's.  Out of interest, if Shakhtar beat Leipzig so they both finish on 9 points, what is the determining factor - goal difference overall, number of wins, results and goal difference in their 2 matches, or what?

Correct, I think Oliver's match is far more significant than Taylor's

If two teams both finish level on points, the deciding factors are:
1) Points obtained in the two matches between them
2) Goal difference in the two matches between them
3) Goals scored in the two matches between them.

If that still doesn't split them, it goes to:
4) Goal Difference in all the group games
5) goals scored in all the group games
6) away goals scored in all the group games
7) number of wins in all the group games
8) number of away wins
9) lower disciplinary points
10) club coefficient  :)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Ref Fan on Tue 01 Nov 2022 11:54
Thanks tef.  And I now see the relevance of Taylor's game too.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Adam on Wed 02 Nov 2022 08:54
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1587546003170766848?t=NOjyEjNgdI2EN_fKWB1eFw&s=19

I know I'm new to this forum but I have a question that some of you guys might be able to help me out with

I've been viewing RTR as a guest for around a year now and would see myself as being fairly up to date on refs and the laws of the game. However, I can't understand in the slightest why Ivan Kruzliak didn't give this as a pen after being sent for an OFR. The hands are in an unnatural position. I know he was just trying to protect the face but he shouldn't have his hands up there. Or am I just missing something?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Wed 02 Nov 2022 09:03
Olympique Marseille (FRA) - Tottenham (ENG)  | Group D
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Musial (POL)
Video Assistant Referee:Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingversson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Steen Dahrup (DEN)

Excellent performance from Marciniak last evening in the hot-house of Marseille. Let the game flow and played some excellent advantages. Ok, perhaps he was a tad lenient at times, but he never lost control and, in the intimidating atmosphere throughout, that was no bad thing. I particularly liked it when SM waved play on after Kane went down in the penalty area. It looked a stonewall penalty, but replays showed a foot on the ball and a clean last-gasp tackle. Even our Harry didn't moan at that one! A game of two halves and interesting how much work the AR on the far side had to do compared with his colleague on the near side. However, all decisions seemed correct. Good work, SM and team!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Wed 02 Nov 2022 09:06
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1587546003170766848?t=NOjyEjNgdI2EN_fKWB1eFw&s=19

I know I'm new to this forum but I have a question that some of you guys might be able to help me out with

I've been viewing RTR as a guest for around a year now and would see myself as being fairly up to date on refs and the laws of the game. However, I can't understand in the slightest why Ivan Kruzliak didn't give this as a pen after being sent for an OFR. The hands are in an unnatural position. I know he was just trying to protect the face but he shouldn't have his hands up there. Or am I just missing something?

Welcome Adam. Quite agree, a ridiculous decision from Kruzliak and I think Mr Kuipers will be putting something in his match report about this.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 02 Nov 2022 10:08
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1587546003170766848?t=NOjyEjNgdI2EN_fKWB1eFw&s=19

I know I'm new to this forum but I have a question that some of you guys might be able to help me out with

I've been viewing RTR as a guest for around a year now and would see myself as being fairly up to date on refs and the laws of the game. However, I can't understand in the slightest why Ivan Kruzliak didn't give this as a pen after being sent for an OFR. The hands are in an unnatural position. I know he was just trying to protect the face but he shouldn't have his hands up there. Or am I just missing something?

Welcome Adam. Quite agree, a ridiculous decision from Kruzliak and I think Mr Kuipers will be putting something in his match report about this.

Under the LOTG, insofar as how I understand the handball law, it should 100% have been a penalty.

I also think though it's just about supportable for a non penalty - he didn't make himself bigger, he instinctively put his hands up to protect his face, which you can't really blame him for. Hands were above shoulder level but then so is his head. Now as to deliberate, you can argue either way - instinctive reaction to protect face = non deliberate but putting your hands up to protect your face = knowing the ball is going to hit there = deliberate.

It'll go down as an error, whether for him or the VAR or even both I don't know but I personally preferred the non pen call even though it was technically wrong.

PS Welcome Adam!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Wed 02 Nov 2022 11:01
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1587546003170766848?t=NOjyEjNgdI2EN_fKWB1eFw&s=19

I know I'm new to this forum but I have a question that some of you guys might be able to help me out with

I've been viewing RTR as a guest for around a year now and would see myself as being fairly up to date on refs and the laws of the game. However, I can't understand in the slightest why Ivan Kruzliak didn't give this as a pen after being sent for an OFR. The hands are in an unnatural position. I know he was just trying to protect the face but he shouldn't have his hands up there. Or am I just missing something?

Welcome Adam. Quite agree, a ridiculous decision from Kruzliak and I think Mr Kuipers will be putting something in his match report about this.

Under the LOTG, insofar as how I understand the handball law, it should 100% have been a penalty.

I also think though it's just about supportable for a non penalty - he didn't make himself bigger, he instinctively put his hands up to protect his face, which you can't really blame him for. Hands were above shoulder level but then so is his head. Now as to deliberate, you can argue either way - instinctive reaction to protect face = non deliberate but putting your hands up to protect your face = knowing the ball is going to hit there = deliberate.

It'll go down as an error, whether for him or the VAR or even both I don't know but I personally preferred the non pen call even though it was technically wrong.

PS Welcome Adam!

The VAR clearly tells Kruzliak that it was a penalty for deliberate handball, hence the ref being sent to the monitor, so there is only one person to blame here. I suspect Mr Kruzliak will be hearing further from UEFA on this one! 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Leggy on Wed 02 Nov 2022 17:59
https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/1587546003170766848?t=NOjyEjNgdI2EN_fKWB1eFw&s=19

I know I'm new to this forum but I have a question that some of you guys might be able to help me out with

I've been viewing RTR as a guest for around a year now and would see myself as being fairly up to date on refs and the laws of the game. However, I can't understand in the slightest why Ivan Kruzliak didn't give this as a pen after being sent for an OFR. The hands are in an unnatural position. I know he was just trying to protect the face but he shouldn't have his hands up there. Or am I just missing something?

Welcome Adam. Quite agree, a ridiculous decision from Kruzliak and I think Mr Kuipers will be putting something in his match report about this.

Under the LOTG, insofar as how I understand the handball law, it should 100% have been a penalty.

I also think though it's just about supportable for a non penalty - he didn't make himself bigger, he instinctively put his hands up to protect his face, which you can't really blame him for. Hands were above shoulder level but then so is his head. Now as to deliberate, you can argue either way - instinctive reaction to protect face = non deliberate but putting your hands up to protect your face = knowing the ball is going to hit there = deliberate.

It'll go down as an error, whether for him or the VAR or even both I don't know but I personally preferred the non pen call even though it was technically wrong.

PS Welcome Adam!


Whilst this might have been wrong in (today's) Law not to award a penalty, morally this was the correct outcome.  Had the player not raised his hands to his face the ball would have hit him in the face, resulting in a head injury and an immediate stop in play followed by an uncontested drop-ball restart.

What actually happened was an attacking corner.  Surely that is a better outcome for the attacking team?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jad on Thu 03 Nov 2022 13:56
Italians tend to be hawkish on matters relating to handball, and it is therefore noteworthy that Graziano Cesari, the ex-FIFA referee who comments on refereeing issues on the Italian Mediaset channels, came down in favour of not giving a penalty.  Incidentally, because of the distance of the camera from the action the images on the television replays made it difficult to make out what exactly had happened.  I hope the images on the VAR monitors were somewhat sharper.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Thu 03 Nov 2022 16:03
Italians tend to be hawkish on matters relating to handball, and it is therefore noteworthy that Graziano Cesari, the ex-FIFA referee who comments on refereeing issues on the Italian Mediaset channels, came down in favour of not giving a penalty.  Incidentally, because of the distance of the camera from the action the images on the television replays made it difficult to make out what exactly had happened.  I hope the images on the VAR monitors were somewhat sharper.

Sorry jad but I can't agree with you on this one. The ball was struck from some distance away and the player could in my view have blocked the ball with his head or back or got under it and flipped it over the bar with his head. We see this all the time. Players at that level now block with their hands behind their backs not in front of their faces. I'm still with Adam on this one.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 07 Nov 2022 11:42
Liverpool vs Real Madrid re match and PSG vs Bayern again.

Makkelie, Orsato, Marciniak and Taylor/ Oliver and maybe Turpin in the running.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Thu 10 Nov 2022 13:21
Liverpool vs Real Madrid re match and PSG vs Bayern again.

Makkelie, Orsato, Marciniak and Taylor/ Oliver and maybe Turpin in the running.

Makkelie or Kovács I hope! Then both of them at London return legs the following week!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Sun 12 Feb 2023 09:32
14 February 2023

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA) - FC Bayern München (GER)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Palenčík (SVK)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Irakli Nakaidze (GEO)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: MCPridz on Sun 12 Feb 2023 10:25
Cracking game for England’s number one referee
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Mackem ref on Sun 12 Feb 2023 11:15
Great appointment for Oliver and team.

It says all we need to know about VAR in the premier league though that he is assisted by a Polish VAR!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 12 Feb 2023 12:29
Cracking game for England’s number one referee

And the most important observer around!!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 12 Feb 2023 12:43
Cracking game for England’s number one referee

Didn't the #1 referee do the Club World Cup final yesterday?

We are lucky to have 2 outstanding referees, both highly thought of at UEFA & FIFA, - neither of them are #1 over the other. They each have their qualities and their weaknesses but both represent England brilliantly on the world stage.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 12 Feb 2023 12:45
Cracking game for England’s number one referee

And the most important observer around!!

Alex is on the other game though and he's the bmb most important observer, along with Kyros Vassaras!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Sun 12 Feb 2023 13:31
14 February 2023

21:00 CET - Paris (Parc des Princes)
Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA) - FC Bayern München (GER)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Palenčík (SVK)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Irakli Nakaidze (GEO)

Great appointment for Michael Oliver and team, congratulations to all.
As someone pointed out on another thread a good reason why he isnt at The Emirates on weds.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Adam on Mon 13 Feb 2023 10:56
Club Brugge v Benfica
Referee: Davide Massa 🇮🇹
Assistant Referees: Filippo Meli and Stefano Alassio 🇮🇹
4th Official: Daniele Chiffi 🇮🇹
VAR: Pablo Valeri 🇮🇹
AVAR: Marco Di Bello 🇮🇹
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz Michael Fröhlich 🇩🇪
UEFA Delegate: Paolo Rondelli  🇸🇲

Dortmund v Chelsea
Referee: Jesus Gil Mazano 🇪🇸
Assistant Referees: Angel Nevado and Diego Barbero 🇪🇸
4th Official: Guillermo Cuadra Fernandez 🇪🇸
VAR: Alejandro Hernandez 🇪🇸
AVAR: Juan Martinez Munuera 🇪🇸
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin 🇸🇮
UEFA Delegate: Tammo Beishuizen 🇳🇱
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 13 Feb 2023 20:44
Great appointment for Oliver and team.

It says all we need to know about VAR in the premier league though that he is assisted by a Polish VAR!

I wonder if they’ll use Makkelie for the return leg depending on the status of the tie.

If not, Kovacs would be a popular choice!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 13 Feb 2023 21:47
Great appointment for Oliver and team.

It says all we need to know about VAR in the premier league though that he is assisted by a Polish VAR!

I wonder if they’ll use Makkelie for the return leg depending on the status of the tie.

If not, Kovacs would be a popular choice!

I doubt Makkelie will get PSG anytime soon, home or away!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: dave26 on Tue 14 Feb 2023 07:32
I would say or rather hoping that Makkiele and Kovacs get the Utd vs Barcelona ties they are the best refs in the world
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Tue 14 Feb 2023 11:34
I would say or rather hoping that Makkiele and Kovacs get the Utd vs Barcelona ties they are the best refs in the world
Maurizio Mariani is on that one
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: dave26 on Tue 14 Feb 2023 12:04
I would say or rather hoping that Makkiele and Kovacs get the Utd vs Barcelona ties they are the best refs in the world
Maurizio Mariani is on that one

That’s a surprise I was expecting a big hitter
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 19 Feb 2023 09:43
21 February 2023

21:00 CET - Frankfurt Am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Paulo Soares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Fourth Official: Fábio Veríssimo (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Joăo Pinheiro (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Eugčne Westerink (NED)

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: István Kovács ROU
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu ROU
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene ROU
Fourth Official: Horatiu Fesnic ROU
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 19 Feb 2023 09:45
Important observer in Dallas for Kovacs at Anfield. What a tie that is for him!

I’m guessing someone will else who frequents these message boards will also be “observing” Kovacs!

No yellow for this game!

Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Sun 19 Feb 2023 11:24
21 February 2023

21:00 CET - Frankfurt Am Main (Frankfurt Stadion)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Paulo Soares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Fourth Official: Fábio Veríssimo (POR)
Video Assistant Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Joăo Pinheiro (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Eugčne Westerink (NED)

21:00 CET - Liverpool (Anfield)
Liverpool FC (ENG) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: István Kovács ROU
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu ROU
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene ROU
Fourth Official: Horatiu Fesnic ROU
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida ITA
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)
Fantastic appointment for Istvan, i wish him and his team well and pray for any other colour than yellow.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 20 Feb 2023 10:13
22 February 2023

21:00 CET - Leipzig (RB Arena)
RB Leipzig (GER) - Manchester City FC (ENG)
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Erwin E. J. Zeinstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Joey Kooij (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Philippe Prudhon (FRA)

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
FC Internazionale (ITA) - FC Porto (POR)
Referee: Srđan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael A Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Rotem Kamer (ISR)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 20 Feb 2023 10:16
A good test for both with important observers too.

I would imagine the return leg in Porto could have Spanish involvement.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Vernon Bear on Mon 20 Feb 2023 13:34
Riley's an important observer?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 05 Mar 2023 12:21
Round of 16 (Second Leg, I)

7 March 2023

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Fourth Official: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Luis Cuervas Del Real (ESP)

21:00 CET - London (Stamford Bridge)
Chelsea FC (ENG) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Rogier Honig (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan De Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol Van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Emil Ubias (CZE)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 05 Mar 2023 16:06
Can't think what game bmb will be watching?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Sun 05 Mar 2023 16:17
Round of 16 (Second Leg, I)

7 March 2023

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - Club Brugge (BEL)
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Fourth Official: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Luis Cuervas Del Real (ESP)

21:00 CET - London (Stamford Bridge)
Chelsea FC (ENG) - Borussia Dortmund (GER)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Rogier Honig (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan De Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol Van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Emil Ubias (CZE)

It would seem that there are people in the hierarchy of uefa more prepared to please missy bmb than there are in the hierarchy of the pgmol.

Great appointment for Danny and i think there might be more than one observer at the game that he will have to impress.

Memo for Danny, i must leave my yellow kit at home.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: MCPridz on Sun 05 Mar 2023 17:04
Considering Dortmund play in Yellow I some how don’t think he will be wearing yellow
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sun 05 Mar 2023 19:45
Considering Dortmund play in Yellow I some how don’t think he will be wearing yellow

Never hurts to remind him of the most important bmb rule!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bg9 on Mon 06 Mar 2023 15:47
Champions League 2022/23 - Referee Appointments - Round of 16 (Second Leg, II

8 March 2023
21:00 CET - London (Tottenham Hotspur Stadium)
Tottenham Hotspur (ENG) - AC Milan (ITA)
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Pagčs (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Meßner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Gijs de Jong (NED)

21:00 CET - Munich (Fußball Arena München)
Bayern München (GER) - Paris Saint Germain (FRA)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Kieran O'Connor (WAL)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 06 Mar 2023 16:30
No surprise Orsato is out in Munich. Decent game for Turpin.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 06 Mar 2023 17:36

Memo for Danny, i must leave my yellow kit at home.

Red 😉
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 12 Mar 2023 10:56
14 March 2023

21:00 CET - Manchster (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - RB Leipzig (GER)
Referee: Slavko Vincic (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official:  Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazović (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Leslie Irvine (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Anna Bordiugova (UKR)

21:00 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
FC Porto (POR) - FC Internazionale (ITA)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1:  Paweł Sokolnicki
Assistant Referee 2:Tomasz Listkiewicz
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Borja Bilbao (ESP)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Sun 12 Mar 2023 13:52
Any English involvement for our refs in champs/Europa league/conference league this week or not?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 12 Mar 2023 13:57
Any English involvement for our refs in champs/Europa league/conference league this week or not?

Nobody knows yet.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 13 Mar 2023 09:16
Napoli be Frankfurt
Why has Nunn been dropped?


Referee Anthony Taylor ENG
Gary Beswick ENG
Lee Betts ENG
Fourth official Robert Jones ENG
VAR Pol van Boekel
AVAR Jeroen Manschot NED
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Ref80 on Mon 13 Mar 2023 09:40
VAR Pol van Boekel
AVAR Jeroen Manschot NED
Dutch VMO’s. Can we conclude that UEFA backed both VAR-interventions at Stamford Bridge? 👍🏼
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 13 Mar 2023 10:05
Napoli be Frankfurt
Why has Nunn been dropped?


Referee Anthony Taylor ENG
Gary Beswick ENG
Lee Betts ENG
Fourth official Robert Jones ENG
VAR Pol van Boekel
AVAR Jeroen Manschot NED

Injured? Out of favour for allowing fernandes to shove him?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: tef on Mon 13 Mar 2023 10:09
Napoli be Frankfurt
Why has Nunn been dropped?


Referee Anthony Taylor ENG
Gary Beswick ENG
Lee Betts ENG
Fourth official Robert Jones ENG
VAR Pol van Boekel
AVAR Jeroen Manschot NED

Explains why Betts has been with Taylor for the last couple of Premier League weekends. Assume Nunn is unavailable for some reason (and was planned) rather than being 'dropped' as you put it.

No English VAR again is very telling. Still some way to go to regain full confidence at UEFA level.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 13 Mar 2023 10:18
Yh I’m hoping it is Nunn being unavailable rather than being dropped


Felix Zwayer on the Madrid Liverpool game
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 13 Mar 2023 11:44
15 March 2023

21:00 CET - Naples (Stadio Diego Armando Maradona)
SSC Napoli (ITA) - Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Lee Betts (ENG)
Fourth Official: Robert Jones (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Jeroen Manschot (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucilio Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Per Eliasson (SWE)

21:00 CET -  Madrid  (Estadio Santiago Bernabéu)
Real Madrid CF (ESP) - Liverpool FC (ENG)
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Sven Jablonski (GER)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Alexander Miescher (SUI)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Mattref20 on Mon 13 Mar 2023 12:36
Wonder why nunn is not in Taylor’s team?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Mon 13 Mar 2023 15:18
Congratulations to Anthony Taylor and team, a good appointment for them.
Best wishes to them all.
Let us hope var doesnt have to get involved too often or better not at all.

Whatever the reason for Mr Nunn not being involved may well be a private matter.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 13 Mar 2023 16:49
No English VAR again is very telling. Still some way to go to regain full confidence at UEFA level.

Maybe in the UEL or UECL
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: JCFC on Tue 14 Mar 2023 13:57
No English VAR again is very telling. Still some way to go to regain full confidence at UEFA level.

Maybe in the UEL or UECL

In the immortal words of Hylda Baker -"She knows, y'know,"
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Tue 14 Mar 2023 23:44
Whatever the reason for Mr Nunn not being involved may well be a private matter.

Exactly.

It's only temporary.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Fri 17 Mar 2023 12:16
With the draw as it is, could be no quarter final for Oliver if he is out of doing the Italian teams

Real Madrid vs Chelsea
Bayern Munich vs Man City
Benefica vs Inter
Milan vs Napoli


Taylor likely for Milan vs Napoli
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Fri 17 Mar 2023 15:16
Whys Oliver out of doing the Italian teams?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Fri 17 Mar 2023 15:18
Whys Oliver out of doing the Italian teams?
-

Juventus and Buffon incident. Shouldn't matter as it was 6 years ago but it might do still.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Fri 17 Mar 2023 16:08
I believe he's only had an italian team Twice since the Juve debacle (Atalanta and Lazio). He's generally had very few appointments involving them.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: rustyref on Fri 17 Mar 2023 16:57
Whys Oliver out of doing the Italian teams?
-

Juventus and Buffon incident. Shouldn't matter as it was 6 years ago but it might do still.

Given he refereed Lazio, and the last time I checked they were Italian, in November 2020 he clearly isn't "out of doing Italian teams".
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 09 Apr 2023 09:10
11 April 2023

21:00 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
SL Benfica (POR) - FC Internazionale (ITA)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: John Brooks (ENG)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Carlos Velasco Carballo (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Georges Lüchinger (LIE)

21:00 CET -  Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - FC Bayern München (GER)
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official: José Luis Munuera (ESP)
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Björn Kuipers (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Adonis Procopiou (CYP)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Sun 09 Apr 2023 09:17
Great appointment (although choice of 4th official is a little scary, given that Brooks has not even done a UCL qualifier yet)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 09 Apr 2023 10:17
Good game for Oliver. Expect Taylor on the other game that isn’t Chelsea madrid. Didn’t expect manzano, weals expecting orsato, so good appointment for him
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Sun 09 Apr 2023 10:29
Brilliant and deserved for Oliver but agree that is a risky 4thers appointment, I would have put Robert Jones, Darren England or Andy Madley on it
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 09 Apr 2023 11:13
Pretty clear that Manzano will be taking over the crown at RFEF when Lahoz is dethroned.

Great game for Oliver and both with very important observers.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 10 Apr 2023 09:07
12 April 2023

21:00 CET - Milan (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza)
AC Milan (ITA) - SSC Napoli (ITA)
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mihai Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Bastian Dankert (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)

21:00 CET -  Madrid (Estadio Santiago Bernabéu)
Real Madrid CF (ESP) - Chelsea FC (ENG)
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Jānis Mežeckis (LVA)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 10 Apr 2023 14:15
BMB Clearly happy with the real madrid-chelsea appointment ;), I'd argue the likes of Jones, Madley and England as 4th official, would be just as risky, as they have no experience of doing champions league middles either, although I believe Madley has had a few European appointments already?

I'm not convinced by Gil Manzano tbh, This is certainly a big test for him, interesting to see how it goes.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Mon 10 Apr 2023 14:47
Great appointment for Istvan Kovacs, he seems to be very well thought of in uefa and rightly so on form.
Good appointment for Oliver too.
Interesting to see Letexier on the Chelsea game, and a spanish official on the man city game
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: MG14 on Tue 11 Apr 2023 07:25
That's a big appointment for Letexier.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ryan80 on Thu 13 Apr 2023 11:20
Not the easiest games last night for Kovacs, both Milan and Napoli were not happy with some of his calls - it was very stop-start.  In the end, nine yellow cards were issued.  I think it will need a very strong and experienced official next week.  Naples is a very difficult place to referee and Milan has now beaten Napoli twice in the last couple of weeks at the San Siro.  Although Taylor refereed them in the last round it could be him (as I would have thought the other three games could not be refereed by him), Turpin (although he had Milan), Marciniak or Makkelie.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: dave26 on Thu 13 Apr 2023 21:03
Not the easiest games last night for Kovacs, both Milan and Napoli were not happy with some of his calls - it was very stop-start.  In the end, nine yellow cards were issued.  I think it will need a very strong and experienced official next week.  Naples is a very difficult place to referee and Milan has now beaten Napoli twice in the last couple of weeks at the San Siro.  Although Taylor refereed them in the last round it could be him (as I would have thought the other three games could not be refereed by him), Turpin (although he had Milan), Marciniak or Makkelie.

Fully agree but I thought Kovacs did very little wrong , I think Vincic will get the return leg
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Thu 13 Apr 2023 21:28
Not the easiest games last night for Kovacs, both Milan and Napoli were not happy with some of his calls - it was very stop-start.  In the end, nine yellow cards were issued.  I think it will need a very strong and experienced official next week.  Naples is a very difficult place to referee and Milan has now beaten Napoli twice in the last couple of weeks at the San Siro.  Although Taylor refereed them in the last round it could be him (as I would have thought the other three games could not be refereed by him), Turpin (although he had Milan), Marciniak or Makkelie.

I think Rosetti will put a big big hitter in there for the second leg.

Makkelie for me is a lock.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Alex04 on Fri 14 Apr 2023 10:10
Marciniak could be a candidate
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Sun 16 Apr 2023 09:31
Chelsea vs Real Madrid

An all Italian team led by Daniele Orstato

Referee: Daniele Orsato ITA
Assistant referee: Ciro Carbone ITA
Assistant referee:Alessandro Giallatini ITA
Fourth official: Maurizio Mariani ITA
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati ITA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri ITA

And for Napoli vs Milan

The World Cup final referee leads his team

Referee: Szymon Marciniak POL
Assistant referee: Paweł Sokolnicki POL
Assistant referee: Tomasz Listkiewicz POL
Fourth official: Glenn Nyberg SWE
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski POL
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Sun 16 Apr 2023 17:28
Any 2nd leg involvement for our English refs minus Oliver this being pawson Taylor brooks Madley attwell England jones or Gillett or any of our other euro qualified refs
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Adam on Sun 16 Apr 2023 17:46
Any 2nd leg involvement for our English refs minus Oliver this being pawson Taylor brooks Madley attwell England jones or Gillett or any of our other euro qualified refs

Tomorrow has Makeliie and Turpin written all over it. Danny has been protected this season in the World Cup and UCL so I'd say he'll get the final. I'd say Taylor will get the Semi with no English teams. If United don't get through, Oliver may get a UEL semi final.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 17 Apr 2023 10:20
So

Bayern vs City is led by Clement Turpin with an all French team

Referee: Clément Turpin FRA
Assistant referee: Nicolas Danos FRA
Assistant Referee: Benjamin Pages FRA
Fourth official: Jérémie Pignard FRA
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Willy Delajod FRA

So one prediction correct from Adam

However

Inter vs Benfica led by Carlos Del Cerro Grande with an all Spanish team

Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande ESP
Assistant referee: Diego Barbero ESP
Assistant Referee: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso ESP
Fourth official: Cesar Soto Grado ESP
Video Assistant Referee: Juan Martínez Munuera ESP
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro Hernández ESP
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ryan80 on Sun 07 May 2023 09:39
9th May: 20:00 : Live on BT Sport 1

Real Madrid v Manchester City

Referee
Artur Dias POR

Assistant referees
Paulo Soares POR
Pedro Ribeiro POR

Fourth official
Daniele Orsato ITA

Video Assistant Referee
Massimiliano Irrati ITA

Assistant Video Assistant Referee
Tiago Martins POR

UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)


Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Sun 07 May 2023 15:29
Hopefully some 2nd leg involvement involving our English contingent in champs Europa and conference league
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Sun 07 May 2023 15:48
Hopefully some 2nd leg involvement involving our English contingent in champs Europa and conference league


Taylor will probably be appointed in Milan tomorrow. Oliver in the Europa League. That will be the only involvement
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Sun 07 May 2023 22:04
9th May: 20:00 : Live on BT Sport 1

Real Madrid v Manchester City

Referee
Artur Dias POR

Assistant referees
Paulo Soares POR
Pedro Ribeiro POR

Fourth official
Daniele Orsato ITA

Video Assistant Referee
Massimiliano Irrati ITA

Assistant Video Assistant Referee
Tiago Martins POR

UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)
Very surprised with this appointment thought it would go to Kovacs, he may get the return leg in Manchester to keep someone happy or either of the two milan games. Tho i guess uefa might appoint Orsato to the Real v City second leg
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 08 May 2023 00:51
Kovacs is OUT after his showing in Milan. Orsato is most likely OUT since he had Real last round. That leaves Makkelie/Marciniak, Taylor plus one for the 3 remaining. Gil Mazano is a possibility for tomorrow, or next week. So is Zwayer. Final appts are possible for both. Vincic looks extremely unlikely after his last showing. Whoever out of Makkelie/Marciniak doesn't get a SF will get the final. However, for me, it gets more likely for Szymon by the day.

Funny how some things are so definitely known by everyone apart from the referees they are known about.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 08 May 2023 08:51
Kovacs is OUT after his showing in Milan. Orsato is most likely OUT since he had Real last round. That leaves Makkelie/Marciniak, Taylor plus one for the 3 remaining. Gil Mazano is a possibility for tomorrow, or next week. So is Zwayer. Final appts are possible for both. Vincic looks extremely unlikely after his last showing. Whoever out of Makkelie/Marciniak doesn't get a SF will get the final. However, for me, it gets more likely for Szymon by the day.

Funny how some things are so definitely known by everyone apart from the referees they are known about.

Who knows, Maybe Adam is Rosetti in disguise ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bg9 on Mon 08 May 2023 09:14
Semi Final 1st leg wed 10th

Ac Milan vs Inter San Siro

Referee; Jesus Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee; Diego Barbero (ESP)
Assistant Referee; Angel Nevado (ESP)
Fourth Official; Jose Maria Sanchez (ESP)
Video Assistsnt Referee; Juan Martinez Munuera (ESP)
Assistant video Referee; Alejandro Hernandez (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Frank De Bleeeckere (BEL)
UEFA Delegate: Panagiotis Chatzialexiou (GER)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: referee12 on Wed 10 May 2023 10:58
poss English involvement for the 2nd leg regarding Milan derby?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Adam on Sat 13 May 2023 13:19
poss English involvement for the 2nd leg regarding Milan derby?

If I was a betting man I'd say Turpin in Milan and Marciniak in Manchester. Then Taylor on the final if City go out, then Makkelie in the other case.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Sat 13 May 2023 14:37
poss English involvement for the 2nd leg regarding Milan derby?

If I was a betting man I'd say Turpin in Milan and Marciniak in Manchester. Then Taylor on the final if City go out, then Makkelie in the other case.

Fingers crossed
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bg9 on Sun 14 May 2023 11:08
Semi Final 2nd leg Tue 16th
Inter vs Ac Milan San Siro

Referee: Clément Turpin FRA
Assistant Referee: Nicolas Danos FRA
Assistant Referee: Benjamin Pages FRA
Fourth Official: Stéphanie Frappart FRA
Video Assistant Referee: Jérôme Brisard FRA
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Benoît Millot FRA
UEFA Referee Observer: Björn Kuipers (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Claretman on Mon 15 May 2023 09:10
Marciniak on duty in the Man C v Real Madrid game, with Kovacs as fourth official?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 15 May 2023 09:12
Marciniak on duty in the Man C v Real Madrid game, with Kovacs as fourth official?

Hang on isn't Kovács OUT!!!!!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 15 May 2023 09:12
17 May 2023

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: István Kovács (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz-Michael Fröhlich (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 15 May 2023 15:25
Least surprising appointment possible.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 15 May 2023 16:38
17 May 2023

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: István Kovács (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz-Michael Fröhlich (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)

Yellow guaranteed then?!!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 15 May 2023 17:02
17 May 2023

21:00 CET - Manchester (City of Manchester Stadium)
Manchester City FC (ENG) - Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: István Kovács (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lutz-Michael Fröhlich (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)

Yellow guaranteed then?!!

If you hear reports of a little old lady in a wheelchair being thrown out after throwing peanuts from the gallery you will know who that is! Not been told the colour yet!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: ryan80 on Mon 15 May 2023 17:49
Least surprising appointment possible.

Interesting to see who gets the final though.  I assume Taylor if Read Madrid progress and Makkelie if they don't.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Alex04 on Mon 15 May 2023 17:52
I'm pretty sure it will be yellow. Man city in blue, Real in their black kit. Courtois normally wears a blue top, but he cant wear that against City. His second choice is normally red, in the exact same shade as the red Macron refereeing kit.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 15 May 2023 18:43
Least surprising appointment possible.

Interesting to see who gets the final though.  I assume Taylor if Read Madrid progress and Makkelie if they don't.

Pretty much what I would geuss at, don't see many other candidates at this point tbh. I wonder if makkelie will do a europa league semi this week?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Wed 17 May 2023 17:13
I'm pretty sure it will be yellow.

It is, sadly!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Alitalia on Fri 19 May 2023 10:13
Istanbul Cerro Grande.     Budapest Marciniak.    Praha Soares Dias.

Will see.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RefRater on Sun 21 May 2023 23:25
I wonder if István Kovács will be considered at some point?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: bmb on Mon 22 May 2023 12:15
I wonder if István Kovács will be considered at some point?

Not this season, I don't think. Still hoping for UEL for him as it's in Budapest. He can have the UCL next year in London then!
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Ref80 on Mon 22 May 2023 12:20
I wonder if István Kovács will be considered at some point?

Not this season, I don't think. Still hoping for UEL for him as it's in Budapest. He can have the UCL next year in London then!

I want Istvan as 4th official to Danny when he (finally) has his deserved UCL final. 😏
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: RCG on Mon 22 May 2023 13:42
2022 UEFA Champions League Final refereeing team

Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)

Assistants: Paweł Sokolnicki and Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)

4th Official: Istvan Kovacs (ROM)

Reserve AR: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROM)

VAR: Tomasz Kwiatowski (POL)

Assistant VAR: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)

VAR Support: Marco Fritz (GER)
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: jacksamuel21 on Mon 22 May 2023 13:42
Turns out we where all wrong and shows the lack of the available options.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Ref80 on Mon 22 May 2023 14:38
I wonder if István Kovács will be considered at some point?

Not this season, I don't think. Still hoping for UEL for him as it's in Budapest. He can have the UCL next year in London then!

I want Istvan as 4th official to Danny when he (finally) has his deserved UCL final. 😏

Hmm not gonna happen :/
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: takethejag on Mon 22 May 2023 18:58
2022 UEFA Champions League Final refereeing team

Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)

Assistants: Paweł Sokolnicki and Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)

4th Official: Istvan Kovacs (ROM)

Reserve AR: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROM)

VAR: Tomasz Kwiatowski (POL)

Assistant VAR: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)

VAR Support: Marco Fritz (GER)

Same reffing team two games in a row for Man City? Has Jon Moss taken over the CL appointments?
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hendo on Mon 22 May 2023 20:11
Is this unprecedented to have the same ref for a semi and a final? Surprised to see Makkelie missing from the latter stages.
But what a last few months for Marciniak and thoroughly deserved too
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Hertsref123 on Mon 22 May 2023 20:19
Is this unprecedented to have the same ref for a semi and a final? Surprised to see Makkelie missing from the latter stages.
But what a last few months for Marciniak and thoroughly deserved too

Last one I can think of was clatts 2016, But that was in the collina era, under rosetti I think its unprecedented.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Whistleblower on Mon 22 May 2023 20:25
Is this unprecedented to have the same ref for a semi and a final? Surprised to see Makkelie missing from the latter stages.
But what a last few months for Marciniak and thoroughly deserved too


The old rules about not getting a Semi followed by the Final are out of the window. I wonder if Man City were consulted ? I think Makkelie can consider himself unfortunate but if your face doesn't fit then you won't get the top appointments. It was ever thus.
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: Ref80 on Tue 23 May 2023 12:57
Congratulations to all the final officials.

I like it a lot that the ‘performance principle’ prevailed. Having said that, meritocracy must always prevail, to prevent that certain referees are being unmotivated and don't believe in their fair chances. In the 2021/2022 season, Danny Makkelie was the best referee and we all know how the story ended.
 
There are some urgent choices to be made within the Dutch team:
 
- VAR: Should they keep backing Pol van Boekel? Of course, he is a bestie of Björn Kuipers, the committee member. However, they have to be neutral, make sensible choices and admit that it was for a big part on VAN BOEKEL’s poor performances that Makkelie’s team missed out on a final this year. And besides, Pol van Boekel’s name triggers already a lot of controversy before a kick-off. You can't say that about a Brisard or Kwiatkowski. When do they wake up in the Netherlands? This is TOP SPORT and sometimes hard choices have to be made.
 
- MOTIVATION; Is Makkelie unmotivated? And if so, what's the role of UEFA/Rosetti? Can they do something about this, motivate him and let him believe in a fair 2023/2024 chance? Otherwise they will lose a very reliable pair of hands for the hottest matches. Is Makkelie surrounded by coaches that make him perform better? Some important stuff to think about.
 
- Fitness; he has to be top fit again to make a good chance.
 
For next season there are just 3 "logical" candidates for the UCL final if an English team is in the final: Makkelie, Vincic and Kovacs. If Makkelie manages to find his 2020-2022 top form again, he should be the #1 candidate, head and shoulders above the rest. I just hope he will realise that, is resilient and still hungry to fight for it, after two dissapointing seasons and a bad treatment by UEFA. And maybe, UEFA has to keep him away from the most risky games, instead of sacrificing him.
 
Title: Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/2023
Post by: flipmode on Sun 11 Jun 2023 03:08
This thread has been unpinned and the 2023/2024 thread pinned.