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General Refereeing => I Spy Old Refs! => Topic started by: Timbo on Sat 20 Nov 2021 15:52

Title: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Timbo on Sat 20 Nov 2021 15:52: Charlton Athletic 2 Southampton 5 in October 1964 at The Valley.

The referee takes evasive action as Charlton attack in Division 2.

From :-

https://br.pinterest.com/pin/132363676536456188/

But who is it ?

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Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: John Treleven on Sat 20 Nov 2021 16:29: Les Hamer
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Sat 20 Nov 2021 19:59: The long white turn-ups to the socks. So very 1960s!
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Timbo on Sun 21 Nov 2021 14:31: Quote from: John Treleven on Sat 20 Nov 2021 16:29
Les Hamer

I didn't know the answer when posting that question, and your response is unexpected. I had not anticipated a Lancashire referee turning up in South-East London. How interesting !
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Sun 21 Nov 2021 14:41: Quote from: Timbo on Sun 21 Nov 2021 14:31
Quote from: John Treleven on Sat 20 Nov 2021 16:29
Les Hamer

I didn't know the answer when posting that question, and your response is unexpected. I had not anticipated a Lancashire referee turning up in South-East London. How interesting !

Me neither, but I couldn't think who else it could be. In his final season, 1967/8, Les refereed the League Cup Final, Leeds 1 Arsenal 0. In those days, there was less regard for geography than later and I recall a Mr H Richards of Oldham came to Selhurst Park to referee a Crystal Palace game in Div 2 , v Norwich I believe.
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Sun 21 Nov 2021 14:52: A look at the Leeds v Arsenal Final on YouTube seems to confirm that the diminutive ref at Charlton was Les Hamer. The short sleeves gives it away! Labelled the worst final of all time, it seemed extraordinary that the Leeds winner was allowed by Les after the Leeds No 9 bundled into the Arsenal goalie from a corner with his elbow leading. Even by the standards of the day, that was a foul and a half!
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Hendo on Sun 21 Nov 2021 15:45: Quote from: Acme Thunderer on Sun 21 Nov 2021 14:52
A look at the Leeds v Arsenal Final on YouTube seems to confirm that the diminutive ref at Charlton was Les Hamer. The short sleeves gives it away! Labelled the worst final of all time, it seemed extraordinary that the Leeds winner was allowed by Les after the Leeds No 9 bundled into the Arsenal goalie from a corner with his elbow leading. Even by the standards of the day, that was a foul and a half!

But I bet it would go to VAR!
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Mon 22 Nov 2021 09:09: Quote from: Hendo on Sun 21 Nov 2021 15:45
Quote from: Acme Thunderer on Sun 21 Nov 2021 14:52
A look at the Leeds v Arsenal Final on YouTube seems to confirm that the diminutive ref at Charlton was Les Hamer. The short sleeves gives it away! Labelled the worst final of all time, it seemed extraordinary that the Leeds winner was allowed by Les after the Leeds No 9 bundled into the Arsenal goalie from a corner with his elbow leading. Even by the standards of the day, that was a foul and a half!

But I bet it would go to VAR!

.....and then be allowed! Harry Gregg and Ray Wood came to mind.
Title: Re: Who is the referee ?
Post by: Boris10 on Fri 26 Nov 2021 11:25: It does seem like LJ Hamer.He was a regular at Northern grounds I visited in the '60s.Also,there was usually an imbalance of northern referees to midlands/south.I have stated before that on one Saturday at this time,every match in the London area ,except one[no,I can't remember which!]had a referee from the north.