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Title: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: aaa on Tue 11 May 2021 12:06
Tue 18th May 2021
Oxford United (First Team) v Blackpool FC (First Team)
Football League 1 
Referee: Madley, Robert
Assistant Referee: Liddle, Geoffrey
Assistant Referee: Hunt, David
Fourth Official: Speedie, Benjamin
Reserve Assistant Referee: Cooper, Nicholas
 
Wed 19th May 2021
Lincoln City FC (First Team) v Sunderland AFC (First Team)
Football League 1 
Referee: Hicks, Craig
Assistant Referee: Dallison, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Karaivanov, Hristo
Fourth Official: Purkiss, Sam
Reserve Assistant Referee: Wade, Stephen
 
Fri 21st May 2021
Blackpool FC (First Team) v Oxford United (First Team)
Football League 1 
Referee: Stroud, Keith
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Assistant Referee: Fox, Andrew
Fourth Official: Webb, David
Reserve Assistant Referee: Hunt, Jonathan
 
Sat 22nd May 2021
Sunderland AFC (First Team) v Lincoln City FC (First Team)
Football League 1 
Referee: Salisbury, Michael
Assistant Referee: Pottage, Mark
Assistant Referee: Meredith, Steven
Fourth Official: Bond, Darren
Reserve Assistant Referee: Dwyer, Mark





Tue 18th May 2021
Newport County AFC (First Team) v Forest Green Rovers (First Team)
Football League 2 
Referee: Breakspear, Charles
Assistant Referee: Cunliffe, Mark
Assistant Referee: Shaw, Simon
Fourth Official: Busby, John
Reserve Assistant Referee: Chard, Michael
 
Thu 20th May 2021
Tranmere Rovers FC (First Team) v Morecambe FC (First Team)
Football League 2 
Referee: Drysdale, Darren
Assistant Referee: Clark, Joe
Assistant Referee: Moore, Anthony
Fourth Official: Toner, Ben
Reserve Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
 
Sun 23rd May 2021
Forest Green Rovers (First Team) v Newport County AFC (First Team)
Football League 2 
Referee: Coy, Martin
Assistant Referee: Webb, Michael
Assistant Referee: Butler, Stuart
Fourth Official: Bell, James
Reserve Assistant Referee: Gratton, Danny
 
Morecambe FC (First Team) v Tranmere Rovers FC (First Team)
Football League 2 
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Newhouse, Paul
Assistant Referee: Bickle, Oliver
Fourth Official: Oldham, Scott
Reserve Assistant Referee: Woodward, Richard
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Ref Watcher on Tue 11 May 2021 12:39
May I be permitted to raise an eyebrow at the appointment to such an important game of Darren Drysdale  just a few weeks after the happenings at Ipswich?
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Tue 11 May 2021 12:45
Interesting appointments especially the one already mentioned above.
I was under the impression that SG2 officials did the League 1 play offs, is this a change in policy this season or has this happened before?
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Tue 11 May 2021 13:24
Again no real surprises except that Coy has certainly not be particularly noticed ( by me at anyrate ) but clearly doing very well. A mixture of old hands and more fresh faces. Inevitably there will be a few disappointed referees today I imagine.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Tue 11 May 2021 13:26
The 4th Official appointments also tell you quite a bit about who is in favour. I'm surprised not to see Marc Edwards feature anywhere....yet !
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Tue 11 May 2021 13:47
May I be permitted to raise an eyebrow at the appointment to such an important game of Darren Drysdale  just a few weeks after the happenings at Ipswich?

Nobody got hurt and Darren 'served his sentence' without comment or seeking to lay the blame elsewhere, and that imho marked the end of an unfortunate blemish in the long career of one of the FL's most experienced refs. As an aside, I'm wondering whether the semi at Tranmere will mark the end of Darren's long career. It has happened before. 
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: justalino on Tue 11 May 2021 16:22
May I be permitted to raise an eyebrow at the appointment to such an important game of Darren Drysdale  just a few weeks after the happenings at Ipswich?

Darren gets a play-off appointment and Alan Judge didn't even play the last few weeks of the season as Ipswich didn't want to trigger an extension to his contract.

I didn't believe in karma until now.....
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Tue 11 May 2021 19:45
Iím trying to think who may referee the League 2 play off final now. Most of the ones I would have picked out are refereeing semi finals which I assume rules them out.

Would we assume that the top two referees were Hicks and Madley based on the fact they have League 1 games, and would this suggest that one of those would referee the League 2 final?
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: mutn3 on Wed 12 May 2021 09:11
Four Nottinghamshire Assistants on the play offs!

I'm telling you, living in the Midlands, where north is as near as south, but colder, has something going for it!

I have a house to let in Wollaton..... 😄
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: justalino on Wed 12 May 2021 09:12
Iím trying to think who may referee the League 2 play off final now. Most of the ones I would have picked out are refereeing semi finals which I assume rules them out.

Would we assume that the top two referees were Hicks and Madley based on the fact they have League 1 games, and would this suggest that one of those would referee the League 2 final?

I would say that's a fairly safe assumption.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: justalino on Wed 12 May 2021 09:13
Four Nottinghamshire Assistants on the play offs!

I'm telling you, living in the Midlands, where north is as near as south, but colder, has something going for it!

I have a house to let in Wollaton..... 😄

How much? ;)
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Wed 12 May 2021 11:57
Four Nottinghamshire Assistants on the play offs!

I'm telling you, living in the Midlands, where north is as near as south, but colder, has something going for it!

I have a house to let in Wollaton..... 😄


As Sam Goldwyn once said " include me out ".  I'm afraid I get a nosebleed anywhere north of Watford Gap !
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hendo on Wed 12 May 2021 12:19
Going by the practice of recent seasons I would suggest none of those mentioned will get any of the play off finals
I cant see, unless I need a visit to Specsavers, that any of the semi-final refs from the last few years has also been given a final. None of the final refs seem to have been involved in that same years semis so if the same format is kept we should be looking for 3 new names
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Wed 12 May 2021 12:29
Interesting, thanks. So based on that who would you think? Maybe Langford for L1 and Backhouse or Edwards for L2 maybe?
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: ajb95 on Wed 12 May 2021 13:29
If Langford gets it (which is a distinct possibility) I will personally write to Mike Riley demanding he immediately resign!
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Wed 12 May 2021 13:37
If you discount the SG2 appointed officials then the FL referees in order of merit should be Madley and Hicks followed by Breakspear, Drysdale, Coy and Bramall and then followed by Speedie, Purkiss,, Busby, Toner, Bell and S Oldham ( though as E Morecambe once famously said ) not necessarily in that order ) So who among the FL referees would you would expect to appear in that list and doesn't might be a very good guide as to who will get the League 2 Play Off Final.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: GingerReferee on Wed 12 May 2021 13:39
If Langford gets it (which is a distinct possibility) I will personally write to Mike Riley demanding he immediately resign!

Is it down to Mike Riley? I thought he only had control over SG1. According to a quick google search, i have found that Alan Wiley is in charge of SG2 and Mike Jones in charge of League 1 and 2 officials
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Wed 12 May 2021 13:46
This was why I threw Backhouse or Edwards into that mix. I would have expected to see them involved perhaps over the likes of Oldham for example, good referee as he is
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: JCFC on Wed 12 May 2021 13:48
If Langford gets it (which is a distinct possibility) I will personally write to Mike Riley demanding he immediately resign!

Admirable use of the Subjunctive mood, ajb95! I'm impressed.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Wed 12 May 2021 14:41
This was why I threw Backhouse or Edwards into that mix. I would have expected to see them involved perhaps over the likes of Oldham for example, good referee as he is

I entirely agree
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Wed 12 May 2021 14:47
Perhaps Backhouse and Edwards will feature in the League 2 Play Off Final as Referee and 4th Official or vice versa. I have heard very good things, from those who should know, about Edwards. Backhouse's star seemed to burn very brightly a little while ago; has it dimmed just a little ? I'm not sure but it might have done.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Thu 13 May 2021 08:32
One person who I am surprised not to see high up in the Merit List and therefore receiving a Play Off appointment is Neil Hair.  I have seen him live twice and he was superb on both occasions. Perhaps I serve as some sort of lucky mascot for him and at other matches he has been distinctly average but of the League 1 and 2 referees I have seen , his performances have unquestionably been among the very best.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Thu 13 May 2021 08:54
Perhaps Backhouse and Edwards will feature in the League 2 Play Off Final as Referee and 4th Official or vice versa. I have heard very good things, from those who should know, about Edwards. Backhouse's star seemed to burn very brightly a little while ago; has it dimmed just a little ? I'm not sure but it might have done.

I agree with you Whistleblower about Backhouse. I saw him at Gresty Road in his earliest days and he was excellent. Since then however, he seems to have tailed off, in particular giving awards which were perplexing and quite frankly absurd. David Rock on the other hand was by far and away the worst 'newbie' I'd seen at Gresty but seems to have made progress since then. I doubt whether either will feature again this season.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: justalino on Thu 13 May 2021 09:08
One person who I am surprised not to see high up in the Merit List and therefore receiving a Play Off appointment is Neil Hair.  I have seen him live twice and he was superb on both occasions. Perhaps I serve as some sort of lucky mascot for him and at other matches he has been distinctly average but of the League 1 and 2 referees I have seen , his performances have unquestionably been among the very best.

Agreed he is excellent, but currently injured.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Thu 13 May 2021 09:27
One person who I am surprised not to see high up in the Merit List and therefore receiving a Play Off appointment is Neil Hair.  I have seen him live twice and he was superb on both occasions. Perhaps I serve as some sort of lucky mascot for him and at other matches he has been distinctly average but of the League 1 and 2 referees I have seen , his performances have unquestionably been among the very best.

Agreed he is excellent, but currently injured.


Ah that explains things. I hope he swiftly recovers from his injury. I may not be the best talent spotter in the business ( or rather I mean my estimations don't always necessarily coincide with the 'powers that be' ) but on the evidence of my eyes I would say Neil Hair is the most promising talent I have seen emerge in Leagues 1 and 2 in the last two or three years.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: justalino on Thu 13 May 2021 10:08
If you discount the SG2 appointed officials then the FL referees in order of merit should be Madley and Hicks followed by Breakspear, Drysdale, Coy and Bramall and then followed by Speedie, Purkiss,, Busby, Toner, Bell and S Oldham ( though as E Morecambe once famously said ) not necessarily in that order ) So who among the FL referees would you would expect to appear in that list and doesn't might be a very good guide as to who will get the League 2 Play Off Final.

None of the referees who are on the L2 play offs will get the final in case there is any 'carry over'.

I will be very surprised if the L2 play off final is not refereed by either Mr Hicks or Mr Madley, assisted by two of the assistants appointed to the L1 semi-finals first legs.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Thu 13 May 2021 12:11
If you discount the SG2 appointed officials then the FL referees in order of merit should be Madley and Hicks followed by Breakspear, Drysdale, Coy and Bramall and then followed by Speedie, Purkiss,, Busby, Toner, Bell and S Oldham ( though as E Morecambe once famously said ) not necessarily in that order ) So who among the FL referees would you would expect to appear in that list and doesn't might be a very good guide as to who will get the League 2 Play Off Final.

None of the referees who are on the L2 play offs will get the final in case there is any 'carry over'.

I will be very surprised if the L2 play off final is not refereed by either Mr Hicks or Mr Madley, assisted by two of the assistants appointed to the L1 semi-finals first legs.


I think this quite a likely outcome with one as referee and the other as 4th presumably. Madley's career is well documented. I've seen Hicks a couple of times; nothing too wrong with his performances but pretty run of the mill I would have said.

If Backhouse and Edwards don't appear, presuming they are not injured, then I am surprised at that particularly Edwards.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Thu 13 May 2021 12:12
Nield is someone else whom I might have expected to feature.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Boz on Thu 13 May 2021 21:32
I'm quite surprised by some of the names featuring in the play-off semis, though none cause me to throw my hands up in horror. It will be interesting to see who are selected for the L1 & L2 finals
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: rustyref on Thu 13 May 2021 22:16
One person who I am surprised not to see high up in the Merit List and therefore receiving a Play Off appointment is Neil Hair.  I have seen him live twice and he was superb on both occasions. Perhaps I serve as some sort of lucky mascot for him and at other matches he has been distinctly average but of the League 1 and 2 referees I have seen , his performances have unquestionably been among the very best.

Agreed he is excellent, but currently injured.




Ah that explains things. I hope he swiftly recovers from his injury. I may not be the best talent spotter in the business ( or rather I mean my estimations don't always necessarily coincide with the 'powers that be' ) but on the evidence of my eyes I would say Neil Hair is the most promising talent I have seen emerge in Leagues 1 and 2 in the last two or three years.

I think Neil probably looks a lot younger than he is.  At a guess I would say he is late 30s or early 40s, so it is probably going to be difficult for him to progress much further.  Very good referee though, someone who I worked with when he was L3 and L2B.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: nemesis on Fri 14 May 2021 10:25
One person who I am surprised not to see high up in the Merit List and therefore receiving a Play Off appointment is Neil Hair.  I have seen him live twice and he was superb on both occasions. Perhaps I serve as some sort of lucky mascot for him and at other matches he has been distinctly average but of the League 1 and 2 referees I have seen , his performances have unquestionably been among the very best.

Agreed he is excellent, but currently injured.




Ah that explains things. I hope he swiftly recovers from his injury. I may not be the best talent spotter in the business ( or rather I mean my estimations don't always necessarily coincide with the 'powers that be' ) but on the evidence of my eyes I would say Neil Hair is the most promising talent I have seen emerge in Leagues 1 and 2 in the last two or three years.

I think Neil probably looks a lot younger than he is.  At a guess I would say he is late 30s or early 40s, so it is probably going to be difficult for him to progress much further.  Very good referee though, someone who I worked with when he was L3 and L2B.

Your guess is spot on.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: DBLTFC on Sat 15 May 2021 19:57
I would go for Brammall to take the L2 final. Gillett the L1 final and Taylor the Championship final.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Mon 17 May 2021 01:17
Prior to the appointments I would have said Bramall was a good choice however with his doing a semi final I canít see him then refereeing a final with the same team. I think it will be either from Hicks or Madley with them doing League 1 (presumably finishing 1st and 2nd), or nobody named such as Edwards or Backhouse
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: ajb95 on Thu 20 May 2021 20:37
Anyone know if the card shark was at the tranmere game tonight - just curious
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: tomp on Thu 20 May 2021 21:01
Anyone know if the card shark was at the tranmere game tonight - just curious
Yes, he was interviewed by sky sports pitchside during the pre match coverage.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: aaa on Mon 24 May 2021 16:06
Finals

Sun 30th May 2021
Blackpool FC (First Team) v Lincoln City FC (First Team)
Football League 1    
Referee: Harrington, Tony
Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Gillett, Jarred
Reserve Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun




Mon 31st May 2021
Morecambe FC (First Team) v Newport County AFC (First Team)
Football League 2    
Referee: Madley, Robert
Assistant Referee: Liddle, Geoffrey
Assistant Referee: Hunt, David
Fourth Official: Hicks, Craig
Reserve Assistant Referee: Clark, Joe
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 24 May 2021 16:13
Finals

Sun 30th May 2021
Blackpool FC (First Team) v Lincoln City FC (First Team)
Football League 1    
Referee: Harrington, Tony
Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Gillett, Jarred
Reserve Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun





Mon 31st May 2021
Morecambe FC (First Team) v Newport County AFC (First Team)
Football League 2    
Referee: Madley, Robert
Assistant Referee: Liddle, Geoffrey
Assistant Referee: Hunt, David
Fourth Official: Hicks, Craig
Reserve Assistant Referee: Clark, Joe

got 3 out of 4 right for league 2
and completly wrong for championship and league 1
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: bmb on Mon 24 May 2021 16:13
Congrats to both sets of team ref.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: ajb95 on Mon 24 May 2021 16:37
As expected Harrington gets the final. Surprised but not surprised to see Bobby with the league 2 final
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 24 May 2021 16:42
Well if history repeats itself Harrington is heading toward SG1 and Madley to SG2 soon.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hendo on Mon 24 May 2021 16:55
As expected Harrington gets the final. Surprised but not surprised to see Bobby with the league 2 final

Congrats to Harrington. I know different bodies appoint but just last week he had the F A Trophy Final and now he is back at Wembley with the Div 1 Final. I for one always like to see things shared out as much as possible so am slightly disappointed.
I wonít react to Madleyís appointment
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Mon 24 May 2021 17:02
Madley has clearly finished right up there to have been given the appointment. From his performance at Oxford it was clear why.

Itís such a shame that people who apparently have some strange personal thing against certain referees, probably ones who they have never actually met, donít have the ability to bring themselves to just say congratulations. Itís very sad to read things like that on this kind of forum.
Perhaps they just donít like being proved that their opinion may be wrong
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Referee21 on Mon 24 May 2021 17:10
Congratulations to all officials.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Whistleblower on Mon 24 May 2021 17:34
Harrington has certainly gone under my radar somewhat which, I should add, is generally a most commendable thing. If SG1 take 2 promotions then he and Gillett are the candidates with Madley and Hicks going up to SG2.

It seems that Robinson has possibly had his chance for promotion and it hasn't gone his way.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Claretman on Mon 24 May 2021 18:19
Congratulations to all.
The Harrington appointment is a bit of a surprise, thought that final would gone to gillett.
Think there are 3 candidates for promotion to sg1 after this appointment, Gillett, Brooks and Harrington.
Think Harrington is in the category of Attwell, good when nothing much happens, but not so good when things do happen.
Cant say i am surprised by Madley appointment, however thought Brakespear was in with a shout.
Feel sure Madley will be promoted to sg2 and probably back to sg1 quite quickly, the latter as i think he is much better than most on sg2 at present.
Brakespear must be in with a shout of promotion too, along with Hicks.

Best wishes to all appointed for the weekend.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: tomp on Mon 24 May 2021 18:19
Really pleased for Bobby Madley in particular. A reward for sticking at it!! It would have been easy for him to have packed it in all together but his hunger must still be there to start from the National list again. He was very good in the Oxford game and like Iíve said before if I was a Championship manager I would much rather him referee my fixtures than most of the SG2 list.
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Leggy on Mon 24 May 2021 18:31
Harrington has certainly gone under my radar somewhat which, I should add, is generally a most commendable thing. If SG1 take 2 promotions then he and Gillett are the candidates with Madley and Hicks going up to SG2.

It seems that Robinson has possibly had his chance for promotion and it hasn't gone his way.

Maybe the accepted view is that Gillett did enough on Saturday and Harrington needs another "test" to confirm (or otherwise) his promotion credentials?
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Boz on Mon 24 May 2021 20:55
No issue with Mr Madley getting the L2 final and I hope he and team do well. However, if he was pencilled in for this final, would have been better to give someone else a chance in the L1 semi, by promoting the best of the L2 quartet to the L1 game and giving someone (the 9th ranked?) one of the L2 semis. It's hardly as though Mr Madley needs the bigger match experience...
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Hughesy66 on Mon 24 May 2021 21:52
That did cross my mind however I wonder whether it is because there was an extra week between the play offs this time compared to usual. Therefore that would have meant Madley would have refereed on the last day of the season on 7th May and wouldnít have refereed again until the final on the 31st. Thatís quite a big time with no game so maybe it was to make sure he kept his match sharpness with a game in between?
Title: Re: PlayOffs 2021
Post by: Claretman on Mon 24 May 2021 22:10
That did cross my mind however I wonder whether it is because there was an extra week between the play offs this time compared to usual. Therefore that would have meant Madley would have refereed on the last day of the season on 7th May and wouldnít have refereed again until the final on the 31st. Thatís quite a big time with no game so maybe it was to make sure he kept his match sharpness with a game in between?
Makes perfect sense for referees that have done the semis to be appointed to the finals, given the time lapse
Since the end of the efl season.