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General Refereeing => Referee / Match Official Appointments => Select Group - Premier League => Topic started by: aaa on Tue 04 May 2021 12:05
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Fri 7th May 2021
Leicester City FC (First Team) v Newcastle United FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: England, Darren
Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Fourth Official: Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Sat 8th May 2021
Leeds United AFC (First Team) v Tottenham Hotspur (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Oliver, Michael
Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Kavanagh, Chris
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Liverpool FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Friend, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Beck, Simon
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew
Manchester City FC (First Team) v Chelsea (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Taylor, Anthony
Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Fourth Official: Moss, Jonathan
Video Assistant Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew
Sheffield United FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Hooper, Simon
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Fourth Official: Mason, Lee
Video Assistant Referee: Jones, Robert
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wilkes, Matthew
Sun 9th May 2021
Arsenal (First Team) v West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Coote, David
Video Assistant Referee: Dean, Michael
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Aston Villa FC (First Team) v Manchester United FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Kavanagh, Chris
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: Massey-Ellis, Sian
Fourth Official: Atkinson, Martin
Video Assistant Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
West Ham United (First Team) v Everton FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Fourth Official: Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: England, Darren
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Kirkup, Peter
Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (First Team) v Brighton & Hove Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew
Mon 10th May 2021
Fulham (First Team) v Burnley FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Coote, David
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Video Assistant Referee: Bankes, Peter
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Tue 11th May 2021
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Leicester City FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Pawson, Craig
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: West, Richard
Fourth Official: Dean, Michael
Video Assistant Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Southampton FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Madley, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Fourth Official: Brooks, John
Video Assistant Referee: Hooper, Simon
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Wed 12th May 2021
Chelsea (First Team) v Arsenal (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Marriner, Andre
Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Fourth Official: Mason, Lee
Video Assistant Referee: Friend, Kevin
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Leicester City FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Pawson, Craig
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: West, Richard
Fourth Official: Dean, Michael
Video Assistant Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Thu 13th May 2021
Aston Villa FC (First Team) v Everton FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Atkinson, Martin
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Fourth Official: Coote, David Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: Scott, Graham
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Liverpool FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Taylor, Anthony
Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Fourth Official: Coote, David
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
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SG1 in the FL
Sat 8th May 2021
Cardiff City FC (First Team) v Rotherham United FC (First Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Scott, Graham
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen
Derby County FC (First Team) v Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Dean, Michael
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Fourth Official: Simpson, Jeremy
MIDDLESBROUGH (First Team) v Wycombe Wanderers FC (First Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Atkinson, Martin
Assistant Referee: West, Richard
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Fourth Official: Boyeson, Carl
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Mike Dean with the championship relegation blockbuster at Derby.
Coote AGAIN at Fulham.. he must have a parking bay to himself nowadays!
Hooper with a dead rubber so to speak Pawson gets a good tie at OT.
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Surprised to see Coote at the Cottage with Fulham realistically needing to win
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I hope Chelsea V Arsenal goes better for Marriner this time than last!
Big game for Coote at the bottom.
Nice to see Dean in the Championship.
Has Lee Mason had a PL middle or even VAR since the West Brom V Brighton game a few months ago? Seems to have fallen right out of favour.e
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Kavanagh makes a swift return to a Man Utd match after his decision to rule out the utd goal against Tottenham
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Fri 7th May 2021
Leicester City FC (First Team) v Newcastle United FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: England, Darren
Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Fourth Official: Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Sat 8th May 2021
Leeds United AFC (First Team) v Tottenham Hotspur (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Oliver, Michael
Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Kavanagh, Chris
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Liverpool FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Friend, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Beck, Simon
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew
Manchester City FC (First Team) v Chelsea (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Taylor, Anthony
Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Fourth Official: Moss, Jonathan
Video Assistant Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew
Sheffield United FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Hooper, Simon
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Fourth Official: Mason, Lee
Video Assistant Referee: Jones, Robert
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wilkes, Matthew
Sun 9th May 2021
Arsenal (First Team) v West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Coote, David
Video Assistant Referee: Dean, Michael
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Aston Villa FC (First Team) v Manchester United FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Kavanagh, Chris
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: Massey-Ellis, Sian
Fourth Official: Atkinson, Martin
Video Assistant Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
West Ham United (First Team) v Everton FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Fourth Official: Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: England, Darren
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Kirkup, Peter
Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (First Team) v Brighton & Hove Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew
Mon 10th May 2021
Fulham (First Team) v Burnley FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Coote, David
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Video Assistant Referee: Bankes, Peter
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Tue 11th May 2021
Southampton FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Madley, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Fourth Official: Brooks, John
Video Assistant Referee: Hooper, Simon
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Wed 12th May 2021
Chelsea (First Team) v Arsenal (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Marriner, Andre
Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Fourth Official: Mason, Lee
Video Assistant Referee: Friend, Kevin
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Manchester United FC (First Team) v Leicester City FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Pawson, Craig
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: West, Richard
Fourth Official: Dean, Michael
Video Assistant Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Thu 13th May 2021
Aston Villa FC (First Team) v Everton FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Atkinson, Martin
Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Fourth Official: Coote, David
Video Assistant Referee: Scott, Graham
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
England gets an important one at the top. Nice to see he's coming back into favour. A possible FIFA candidate for the future??
Oliver with an important one in terms of European places
Hopper getting experience with his game. Wouldnt be surprised if Tierney was due there as its rare to have Hooper in Premier 2 weeks in a row
Taylor getting the big one was always going to happen
Friend gets a good game after good performances in recent weeks at Newcastle and at Chelsea
Moss has really came out of favour recently. A lot of time in the Championship and dud games for him recently with the exception being Arsenal v Everton
Kavanagh back at Utd was unexpected, he seems to be the 3rd favourite ref now
Attwell gets a big game which is good for him. 2nd big one since internationals
Bankes gets another game. A lot riding on it as West Brom must win
Coote gets a massive one at the bottom which is good for him. He's more in favour recently too. Pity its at Fulham again tho. Wish there was more variety
Madley with a dud as well
Pawson unsurprisingly gets a massive one. Man Utd again tho after having them only last week at Leeds! Another place where Tierney possibly was
Let's hope Marriner does better at this Derby compared to his last one..... he seems to always get a big game towards the end of every season. He got Liverpool v Chelsea last year
Great to see Atkinson back with a good one
Another good set imo
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Manchester based Referees with games involving both Manchester clubs. I still find this hared to swallow. I know the protocols are different these days but I still think it's "unhealthy" (for want of a word) for Referees to be appointed to local clubs, irrespective of their declared non-connections/allegiances.
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Manchester based Referees with games involving both Manchester clubs. I still find this hared to swallow. I know the protocols are different these days but I still think it's "unhealthy" (for want of a word) for Referees to be appointed to local clubs, irrespective of their connections or allegiances.
Its unfair considering Oliver isn't allowed Newcastle and Bankes Liverpool
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Manchester based Referees with games involving both Manchester clubs. I still find this hared to swallow. I know the protocols are different these days but I still think it's "unhealthy" (for want of a word) for Referees to be appointed to local clubs, irrespective of their connections or allegiances.
Its unfair considering Oliver isn't allowed Newcastle and Bankes Liverpool
That's because they support those clubs, it isn't unfair at all. The previous system was unfair, such as Mike Dean being removed from a cup final because Liverpool were playing, even though he has no connection to them. Or a London based referee not being able to referee any London teams, even though he might support a team from the North of the country or the midlands.
The current system is much better.
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Manchester based Referees with games involving both Manchester clubs. I still find this hared to swallow. I know the protocols are different these days but I still think it's "unhealthy" (for want of a word) for Referees to be appointed to local clubs, irrespective of their connections or allegiances.
Its unfair considering Oliver isn't allowed Newcastle and Bankes Liverpool
I agree 100%. I would have no problem with Messrs. Kavanagh or Taylor being appointed to the Manchester derby or Messrs. Bankes or Dean to the Merseyside derby (unless they have declared allegiances to one of the clubs) but not when the opposition is based in another part of the country.
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And we haven’t yet had the pleasure of Michael Oliver this season!
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And we haven’t yet had the pleasure of Michael Oliver this season!
I'm a Liverpool fan and we've had him twice since Xmas, actually make that once after last wknd postponed. I can't remember how many times b4 then but thats a lot less than usual for us. That's compared to having Atkinson 4 times since Xmas and should have been 5 but got COVID and missed the Arsenal game.
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Great game for England on Friday night - off for a first year to be trusted with a match at this stage of the season that could impact CL qualification!
In other appointments, great to see Hooper given back to back games, he certainly has had a steady season. Pleased to see Marriner and Pawson get the decent double header in the week too! Hopefully Atkinson will make his comeback this week after missing out again Saturday.
Finally, Lee Mason! He has fallen well and truly out of favour! I’m surprised he hasn’t been given a PL game since the infamous free kick debacle. There are a couple of effective dead rubbers in these fixtures which would have been perfect to welcome him back. I do feel, and have felt for a while now, that he has perhaps overstayed his welcome in the SG1 group. Time to step aside and let someone else get the opportunity!
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Great game for England on Friday night - off for a first year to be trusted with a match at this stage of the season that could impact CL qualification!
In other appointments, great to see Hooper given back to back games, he certainly has had a steady season. Pleased to see Marriner and Pawson get the decent double header in the week too! Hopefully Atkinson will make his comeback this week after missing out again Saturday.
Finally, Lee Mason! He has fallen well and truly out of favour! I’m surprised he hasn’t been given a PL game since the infamous free kick debacle. There are a couple of effective dead rubbers in these fixtures which would have been perfect to welcome him back. I do feel, and have felt for a while now, that he has perhaps overstayed his welcome in the SG1 group. Time to step aside and let someone else get the opportunity!
Good to see England with an important game, nice to see Marriner and Pawson with big games too.
I guess there werent too many options the pgmol would wish to appoint with Oliver being kept away from Chelsea and Leicester
Hooper could have been given a different game, and that games used as a trial game for sg2 promotion candidates.
Have to agree on the Mason front, wonder if he will get a game in the last set of fixtures and then retire?
I guess a certain w midlands manager may be pleased he hasnt whistled them for a while.
If Lee does retire, all the best to him, he was a steady referee in times gone by, but as you say has gone on too long.
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With Man U v Liverpool now rearranged for Thursday 13th May, I wonder if we are likely to see changes to the officials. Surely Oliver won’t be refereeing it less than 48 hours before the cup final! I think Pawson might referee it and be replaced on the Leicester game
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Its a pity about Oliver. I'd be inclined to agree unless they give it to Kavanagh. Hopefuly rob Jones gets the leftover game. At a very very very very unlikely chance Dean. Please don't hate me but he doesn't have a game and u never know.
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With Man U v Liverpool now rearranged for Thursday 13th May, I wonder if we are likely to see changes to the officials. Surely Oliver won’t be refereeing it less than 48 hours before the cup final! I think Pawson might referee it and be replaced on the Leicester game
Moss will be available for the utd v liverpool game.
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If Atkinson keeps whatever appointments he has this weekend I wonder if they will put Atkinson on Utd vs liverpool and someone else on his original appointment?
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If Atkinson keeps whatever appointments he has this weekend I wonder if they will put Atkinson on Utd vs liverpool and someone else on his original appointment?
Wouldnt be surprised but its his 1st game back
I know they did it with Kavanagh but isn't it a bit unfair on other refs just throwing someone who's been out for weeks into a big game
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If Atkinson keeps whatever appointments he has this weekend I wonder if they will put Atkinson on Utd vs liverpool and someone else on his original appointment?
Wouldnt be surprised but its his 1st game back
I know they did it with Kavanagh but isn't it a bit unfair on other refs just throwing someone who's been out for weeks into a big game
It would be his second game back as he has a championship game on saturday, he was due back last weekend, but alas didnt make it, let us hope he returns this weekend. I think giving him that game might be tricky, it would be easier to replace him on the villa v everton game if this weekends action takes its toll on him.
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Indeed they did do it with Chris Kavanagh who, IMO, had a performance adversely affected
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Just realized that Anthony Taylor will referee the CL final in the Premier League.
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Wonder could Mike Dean be an outside bet for Man United v Liverpool
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It might be Stuart Attwell
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Man Utd v Leicester now being reffed by Pawson!!!
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Man Utd v Leicester now being reffed by Pawson!!!
Pawson was down as the referee for Leicester vs Utd when these appointments were first posted so there is no change there unless you was referring to someones comment about Pawson being a possibility for Utd vs Liverpool
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Man Utd v Leicester now being reffed by Pawson!!!
Always was
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I believe we will hear on Tuesday with next weeks appointments about the Utd Liverpool game
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I believe we will hear on Tuesday with next weeks appointments about the Utd Liverpool game
Which rules out Pawson, Oliver and Atkinson. Looks like Attwell now if I was to hazarda guess. Or Taylor
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Ok how in the name of God was that not a pen
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Ok how in the name of God was that not a pen
Probably would help if you added the game & the ref!
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Ok how in the name of God was that not a pen
Probably would help if you added the game & the ref
The obvious error in the Man City Chelsea game. Sterling on Zouma (edited to fix quote-hertsref)
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I think you mean on Sterling by Zouma. The referee was Anthony Taylor.
Presumably VAR did not consider it a clear and obvious error.
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Ok how in the name of God was that not a pen
Probably would help if you added the game & the ref
The obvious error in the Man City Chelsea game. Sterling on Zouma (edited to fix quote-hertsref)
Ye sorry that's what I meant
Ye I've seen less obvious ones overturned
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Ok how in the name of God was that not a pen
Probably would help if you added the game & the ref
The obvious error in the Man City Chelsea game. Sterling on Zouma (edited to fix quote-hertsref)
Ye sorry that's what I meant
Ye I've seen less obvious ones overturned
Only obvious or not so obvious if you're watching the game! Not everyone on here watches the PL or has a clue what game is or isn't being played in it at any given moment. I go look up incidents on Twitter (as it's such a reliable fountain of knowledge...) If nothing else there will be a clip of the incident floating about so I can have a look.
Personally I was watching my Lilák beat ZTE 5-4 followed by the highlights show as there were actually some highlights today!
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Ok how in the name of God was that not a pen
Probably would help if you added the game & the ref
The obvious error in the Man City Chelsea game. Sterling on Zouma (edited to fix quote-hertsref)
Ye sorry that's what I meant
Ye I've seen less obvious ones overturned
Only obvious or not so obvious if you're watching the game! Not everyone on here watches the PL or has a clue what game is or isn't being played in it at any given moment. I go look up incidents on Twitter (as it's such a reliable fountain of knowledge...) If nothing else there will be a clip of the incident floating about so I can have a look.
Personally I was watching my Lilák beat ZTE 5-4 followed by the highlights show as there were actually some highlights today!
By obvious I meant the error that Taylor made was obvious
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VAR clearly thought not.
Even with the benefit of slow mo replays Mica Richard's wasn't sure.
Kelly Cates is like all presenters, instructed to encourage controversy
Jamie Redknapp has the intellect of a pot plant so I automatically discount his inane burblings
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VAR clearly thought not.
Even with the benefit of slow mo replays Mica Richard's wasn't sure.
Kelly Cates is like all presenters, instructed to encourage controversy
Jamie Redknapp has the intellect of a pot plant so I automatically discount his inane burblings
Have to agree with all this
Pen for me all day
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I would say the incident involving Zouma and Sterling was one of those sometimes a penalty is given, sometimes not. It depends on the referee on the day, cant say it was a clear and obvious error for var to intervene.
Minimal if any contact, not that contact means foul.
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Agree, and Sterling's argument seems to be that he was prevented from bringing his foot back to shoot rather than saying he was fouled. Having watched it multiple times I am still unclear on what contact there was, and I certainly don't think VAR could deem this as a clear and obvious error.
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Agree, and Sterling's argument seems to be that he was prevented from bringing his foot back to shoot rather than saying he was fouled. Having watched it multiple times I am still unclear on what contact there was, and I certainly don't think VAR could deem this as a clear and obvious error.
Sterling lucky to be on the pitch anyway. Seen people sent off for less, and surprised review not recommended for consistency with other red cards seen lately !
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Agree, and Sterling's argument seems to be that he was prevented from bringing his foot back to shoot rather than saying he was fouled. Having watched it multiple times I am still unclear on what contact there was, and I certainly don't think VAR could deem this as a clear and obvious error.
Sterling lucky to be on the pitch anyway. Seen people sent off for less, and surprised review not recommended for consistency with other red cards seen lately !
Fair point. I missed a few minutes of the game and hadn't seen that incident until MotD. What sanction was given if any?
My feeling about the 'penalty' claimed by City was that another referee on a different day might have given it and it wouldn't have resulted in an OFR either. It looked clumsy but I'm not totally convinced there was enough there to justify a penalty.
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Agree, and Sterling's argument seems to be that he was prevented from bringing his foot back to shoot rather than saying he was fouled. Having watched it multiple times I am still unclear on what contact there was, and I certainly don't think VAR could deem this as a clear and obvious error.
Sterling lucky to be on the pitch anyway. Seen people sent off for less, and surprised review not recommended for consistency with other red cards seen lately !
Fair point. I missed a few minutes of the game and hadn't seen that incident until MotD. What sanction was given if any?
My feeling about the 'penalty' claimed by City was that another referee on a different day might have given it and it wouldn't have resulted in an OFR either. It looked clumsy but I'm not totally convinced there was enough there to justify a penalty.
Sterling was issued with a yellow card, i agree it could have easily been red on current interpretation of the laws of the game.
I dont suppose aguero will take another penalty for city, or not until the game after the title is secured.
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okay my apologies everybody regarding Pawson being the ref for Man Utd/liverpool
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according to flash scores app these are the midweek ref appointments inc the rearranged Man U/liverpool fixture
Tuesday
Man U/leicester-pawson
southampton/palace-madley
Wednesday
Chelsea/arsenal-marriner
thursday
villa/everton-atkinson
manned/liverpool-oliver
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according to flash scores app these are the midweek ref appointments inc the rearranged Man U/liverpool fixture
Tuesday
Man U/leicester-pawson
southampton/palace-madley
Wednesday
Chelsea/arsenal-marriner
thursday
villa/everton-atkinson
manned/liverpool-oliver
No confirmation from PGMOL yet. It won't be Oliver if he's on the Fa Cup final on Saturday
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according to flash scores app these are the midweek ref appointments inc the rearranged Man U/liverpool fixture
Tuesday
Man U/leicester-pawson
southampton/palace-madley
Wednesday
Chelsea/arsenal-marriner
thursday
villa/everton-atkinson
manned/liverpool-oliver
They're just taken from the original appointments. I imagine they will stay the same apart from Oliver.
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Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
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Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
Agree
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Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
I wouldn’t say poor but average. Second yellow for Watkins was a bit harsh but right. I agree the penalty should have been given for Greenwood’s handball, so i’d say another poor performance from Gillett the VAR. I know someone would say the ball came so fast that Greenwood could not move his arms but that’s not a natural position imo. Maybe Cavani should’ve been cautioned for tripping El Ghazi which led to Maguire’s injury?
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Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
I wouldn’t say poor but average. Second yellow for Watkins was a bit harsh but right. I agree the penalty should have been given for Greenwood’s handball, so i’d say another poor performance from Gillett the VAR. I know someone would say the ball came so fast that Greenwood could not move his arms but that’s not a natural position imo. Maybe Cavani should’ve been cautioned for tripping El Ghazi which led to Maguire’s injury?
Has Gillett had many other poor VAR performances?
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Agree, and Sterling's argument seems to be that he was prevented from bringing his foot back to shoot rather than saying he was fouled. Having watched it multiple times I am still unclear on what contact there was, and I certainly don't think VAR could deem this as a clear and obvious error.
Sterling lucky to be on the pitch anyway. Seen people sent off for less, and surprised review not recommended for consistency with other red cards seen lately !
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Fair point. I missed a few minutes of the game and hadn't seen that incident until MotD. What sanction was given if any?
My feeling about the 'penalty' claimed by City was that another referee on a different day might have given it and it wouldn't have resulted in an OFR either. It looked clumsy but I'm not totally convinced there was enough there to justify a penalty.
Sterling was issued with a yellow card, i agree it could have easily been red on current interpretation of the laws of the game.
I dont suppose aguero will take another penalty for city, or not until the game after the title is secured.
Sterling's tackle could easily have warranted a red card on another occasion. Idle speculation but I do wonder if Anthony Taylor had been refereeing in Europe and that sort of tackle was made whether the sanction would have been the same ?
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Another poor performance from Kavanagh today. Very random in foul detection. Never a dive by Ollie Watkins for a second yellow. Penalty correct and probably should have been a handball by Greenwood at the other end.
Since his return he’s been unconvincing
I wouldn’t say poor but average. Second yellow for Watkins was a bit harsh but right. I agree the penalty should have been given for Greenwood’s handball, so i’d say another poor performance from Gillett the VAR. I know someone would say the ball came so fast that Greenwood could not move his arms but that’s not a natural position imo. Maybe Cavani should’ve been cautioned for tripping El Ghazi which led to Maguire’s injury?
Has Gillett had many other poor VAR performances?
As an arsenal fan I remember it well that last season he made Mr Atkinson disallow a late goal from Chambers for a foul (which did not exist) against Palace which could have been a winning shot. Later it was considered his mistake and he had been out of big six games in PL until this season.
He’s been doing fine as VAR this season and I remember he had some great moments, but the handball by Greenwood was so obvious that he should’ve advise Kavanagh to come to the screen. Penalty for me so ‘Another’ poor performance from him imo.
I know he is highly thought of in championship and he is also a potential promotion. I’ve been waiting for his on-field PL debut but it is yet to come.
I wonder if any controversial moments on Gillett I haven’t noticed?
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I actually think that Jarred Gillett got the handball spot on. If that was giving at the other end for a penalty there would be people fuming that United got another penalty.
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I actually think that Jarred Gillett got the handball spot on. If that was giving at the other end for a penalty there would be people fuming that United got another penalty.
And as it is people are fuming that Utd got away again with NOT conceding a penalty when the majority of us feel it should have been.
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I actually think that Jarred Gillett got the handball spot on. If that was giving at the other end for a penalty there would be people fuming that United got another penalty.
And as it is people are fuming that Utd got away again with NOT conceding a penalty when the majority of us feel it should have been.
To be honest, none of us really know what is and isn't a handball because of how bad the rules are. There needs to be a concrete rule that says it is or isn't a handball
As for Gillett, you can't blame him for the 2nd yellow. Var can't overturn yellow cards. It was an infield mistake from Kavanagh. No foul but no dive
I'd say he will be promoted next year as he is getting bing VAR appearances
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Kavanagh with the big decisions correct.
Clear simulation and second yellow. We should not be condoning this behaviour. Even the commentators agreed.
Good performance overall.
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Kavanagh with the big decisions correct.
Clear simulation and second yellow. We should not be condoning this behaviour. Even the commentators agreed.
Good performance overall.
And your views on the Villa penalty that was not given?
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no villa pen and second yellow was correct according to sky co commentator
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according to the official premier league match page its correct Oliver is doing Man U v liverpool before the cup final so flash score app was correct
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Again we have the problem of both Manchester teams being refereed by local referees (Altrincham IS in Manchester. It is grossly unfair on these gentlemen to put them into that situation, I am sure we have all had difficult matches because we have a local team against visitors and it’s not easy. I am not casting aspersions on the honesty of the referees but any doubtful decision in favour of the Manchester team will raise eyebrows amongst the cynics. There is a maxim about justice not only being done but being seen to be done, and there are plenty of other referees available. Surely someone at PGMO has the intelligence to see this....or maybe not on past performance.
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Actually, not wishing to be pedantic, but Altrincham is in CHESHIRE and Altrincham Referees are registered with Cheshire FA
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Reading various reports and comments by pundits, I would say the consensus is that City should have had a penalty for the foul on Sterling (Halsey also of that view) but that Sterling himself was lucky not to have been red carded early in the game. Not saying that the consensus is always right but it highlights the fact the match was not free of controversial decisions. Personally, I was more in sympathy with the 'no penalty' than with only a YC for the dangerous lunge.
Altrincham is interesting, and having been brought up 2 miles away it's a familiar place to me. Yes, it's in the county of Cheshire. Politically, it comes under Trafford Council in Greater Manchester, and for good measure has a Warrington post code. I believe Anthony Taylor is a keen supporter of the local football team.
Is Chris Kavanagh still a Manchester referee registered with the Manchester FA? I appreciate he doesn't support either Manchester Club.
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Kavanagh with the big decisions correct.
Clear simulation and second yellow. We should not be condoning this behaviour. Even the commentators agreed.
Good performance overall.
And your views on the Villa penalty that was not given?
As a villa fan, i would say Kavanagh was inconsistent with his foul detection.
The Penalty given in my mind was more of a penalty than that awarded at Old Trafford earlier in the season by Oliver or then penalty given by Moss last season when the man utd player kicked the villa defender.
That said, if sterling didnt get a penalty last night, then it raises the question if this was a penalty.
I will say Luiz fouled Pogba today.
The handball by Greenwood would have been harsh but i think probably was a penalty.
Possibly Kavanagh told var he had seen the incident and thought the hand was in a normal positon due to greenwoods movement or the ball travelled too short a distance, hence var thought it wasnt an obvious error.
The incident late on between Watkins and Henderson def was not a penalty, however when a goalkeeper comes
Rushing out like that, i defy anyone not to go to ground to avoid getting injured.
If that is to be deemed a dive, we would be getting a lot more yellow cards for simulation than we do.
Personally think Kavanagh got that one wrong. I guess that the only way he could have changed his mind about
Issuing the second yellow was if var had sent Kavanagh to the screen thinking it was a penalty, but then two wrongs dont make a right.
Villa were beaten fairly and squarely today by a better team especially in the second half.
Bet Man utd wish they could still play cup semi finals at their second favourite ground.
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Game of huge significance at Craven Cottage - Fulham v Burnley - tonight, with just one relegation place now left which Fulham will surely occupy unless they beat Burnley. I wish ref David Coote and his team, plus VAR Peter Bankes, all the best for a good and certainly controversy-free evening.
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Anthony Taylor and his team replace Michael and his team
No suprise
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Anthony Taylor and his team replace Michael and his team
No suprise
No surprise as you say, and it would be nice if we could have a game without too much controversy.
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Anthony Taylor and his team replace Michael and his team
No suprise
No surprise as you say, and it would be nice if we could have a game without too much controversy.
After last time, I’d settle on moving your full stop to after the word “game” and removing the last four words!
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Revised appointment at Aston Villa now too..
Aston Villa v Everton
M ATKINSON
D Cook and C Hatzidakis
C Pawson
VAR G Scott
AVAR N Hopton