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General Refereeing => I Spy Old Refs! => Topic started by: guest42 on Sat 13 Mar 2021 10:59

Title: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: guest42 on Sat 13 Mar 2021 10:59
After browsing through some of the Bundesliga appointments today - they publish the day jobs of their referees on the DFB website - which is quite interesting in itself.

Manuel Grafe is listed as a Sports Scientist, Deniz Aytekin is an Economist, Sören Storks is a "Master Carpenter".

This got me thinking - what are the strangest, unconventional jobs that Referees from yesteryear had outside of the game.

I know that the German Herbert Fandel was a classically trained Concert Pianist - and there was a Swedish FIFA referee who was the elected mayor of his home town.

Any other interesting ones from down the years people can recall?
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: ajb95 on Sat 13 Mar 2021 11:16
Bjorn Kuipers runs a family chain of supermarkets in Holland.

Of course there is the funny story of Mike Dean working in a chicken factory! 😁
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Sat 13 Mar 2021 11:33
Was it Walter Johnson who was a 'shoe clicker' with Clark's Shoes at Kendal?
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: Timbo on Sat 13 Mar 2021 11:36

This got me thinking - what are the strangest, unconventional jobs that Referees from yesteryear had outside of the game.



My guess is that you'll get some very unusual occupations prior to WWI.

In more modern times, I always thought that David Elleray's occupation brought a bit of class to the list ! I seem to remember, in the dim and distant past, a documentary on TV looking at his life and "day job". 
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:45
Rex Spittle had a variety of occupations including children's entertainer and Butlin's Redcoat!  ;D
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: Boris10 on Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:19
Roy Darlington was a 'Pavior'?Or was it Pavier?
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: JCFC on Sat 13 Mar 2021 22:56
The former.
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: nemesis on Mon 15 Mar 2021 10:07

Nowadays, sadly, it just seems to be a question of which part of the FA or County FAs they work for.
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: keith h on Sun 21 Mar 2021 08:29
Rex Spittle had a variety of occupations including children's entertainer and Butlin's Redcoat!  ;D
As I recall he was one of those refs you were never quite sure what to expect.  If he was on song very good but could also be pretty poor.  The Trevor Kettle of his day!
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: Boris10 on Sun 21 Mar 2021 12:45
Saw Rex at Lincoln against Bradford[PA]in the late sixties.The game was excellent,and I think that day,he was on song!
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: Hendo on Sun 21 Mar 2021 22:50
Was it Walter Johnson who was a 'shoe clicker' with Clark's Shoes at Kendal?

Indeed, as was Keith Butcher before becoming landlord of one of the towns less salubrious pubs where the “adhesiveness” (and I don’t mean the underside) of the carpets was interesting to say the least!
(I seem to recall that “clicking” was a process involving cutting leather to size; my great uncle worked there with Walter many moons ago)
Title: Re: What's My Line(sman) - Referees and their trades
Post by: mutn3 on Mon 22 Mar 2021 22:13
John Lowles (1892) was a Coachman.
William Chatterton (1892) was a Cricketer, and Groundsman at Sandringham.
Edmund Hind (1899-1902) was a Coal Merchant.
Gilbert Gillies (1904) was the Secretary and Manager of three FL teams ( Chesterfield, Bradford P.A., and Leeds City).
Alf Warner (1914-20) made cricket bats.
John Hickling (1921-4) was a Wrestling and Boxing Promoter.
Ian Wright (1935-9) was an Aircraft Inspector.
Jimmy Dunbar (1951-3) made parachutes in WW2.
George Flint (1972-82) was a Pit Head Baths Superintendent.