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Title: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: aaa on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:04
Fri 12th Mar 2021
Newcastle United FC (First Team) v Aston Villa FC (First Team)
Premier League
Referee: Tierney, Paul
Assistant Referee: Hussin, Ian
Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
Fourth Official: Madley, Andrew
Video Assistant Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy

Sat 13th Mar 2021
Crystal Palace FC (First Team) v West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Hooper, Simon
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Fourth Official: Scott, Graham
Video Assistant Referee: Dean, Michael
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry

Everton FC (First Team) v Burnley FC (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
Fourth Official: Kavanagh, Chris
Video Assistant Referee: Atkinson, Martin
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew

Fulham (First Team) v Manchester City FC (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Marriner, Andre
Assistant Referee: Ledger, Scott
Assistant Referee: Long, Simon
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Video Assistant Referee: Pawson, Craig
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew

Leeds United AFC (First Team) v Chelsea (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Friend, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Beck, Simon
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Fourth Official: Taylor, Anthony
Video Assistant Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Wilkes, Matthew

Sun 14th Mar 2021
Arsenal (First Team) v Tottenham Hotspur (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Oliver, Michael
Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Bennett, Simon
Fourth Official: Friend, Kevin
Video Assistant Referee: Tierney, Paul
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee

Leicester City FC (First Team) v Sheffield United FC (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Bankes, Peter
Assistant Referee: Kirkup, Peter Nunn, Adam
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Taylor, Anthony
Video Assistant Referee: Coote, David
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil

Manchester United FC (First Team) v West Ham United (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Kavanagh, Chris  Atkinson, Martin
Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
Assistant Referee: Massey-Ellis, Sian
Fourth Official: Atkinson, Martin  Pawson, Craig
Video Assistant Referee: Moss, Jonathan
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam Hopton, Nick

Southampton FC (First Team) v Brighton & Hove Albion FC (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Attwell, Stuart
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: West, Richard
Fourth Official: Jones, Robert
Video Assistant Referee: Marriner, Andre
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Halliday, Andrew

Mon 15th Mar 2021
Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (First Team) v Liverpool FC (First Team)
Premier League    
Referee: Pawson, Craig
Assistant Referee: Betts, Lee
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Fourth Official: Dean, Michael
Video Assistant Referee: Madley, Andrew
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: aaa on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:13
SG1 in the FL

Sat 13th Mar 2021
Derby County FC (First Team) v Millwall FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: England, Darren
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
Fourth Official: Linington, James

MIDDLESBROUGH (First Team) v Stoke City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Madley, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Fourth Official: Doughty, Leigh

Tue 16th Mar 2021
Cardiff City FC (First Team) v Stoke City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Scott, Graham
Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
Fourth Official: Whitestone, Dean

Wed 17th Mar 2021
Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team) v Huddersfield Town FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Coote, David
Assistant Referee: Hopton, Nick
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Wright, Peter
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: ajb95 on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:16
Something weird going on with graham Scott? That’s his 5th championship appointment in a row  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Readingfan on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:22
No Dean, Atkinson or Taylor in the middle? Wonder when the last time was that happened!
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: GingerReferee on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:23
Something weird going on with graham Scott? That’s his 5th championship appointment in a row  :-\ :-\
Yh Ik right what is happening? I don't think PGMOL are happy with him at all
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: ajb95 on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:49
Something weird going on with graham Scott? That’s his 5th championship appointment in a row  :-\ :-\
Yh Ik right what is happening? I don't think PGMOL are happy with him at all

Why though?? He hasn’t had any “Lee Mason” moments. And IMO he hasn’t been the worst ref this season.
Seems to very much a hierarchical clicky nature about the PL ref groups and it stinks!
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Mackem ref on Tue 09 Mar 2021 12:54
I was just thinking similarly ajb - whilst the death threats given to Mike Dean are abhorrent and simply can’t be accepted in society, let’s not forget the red card decision in Fulham-West Ham game was incredibly poor. Many other SG1 referees would not have seen a PL match for a long time after that!
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Tue 09 Mar 2021 13:38
At least Simon Hooper is getting a game, Palace v WBA being one of the more obvious of the weekend's fixtures for him to referee.
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Tue 09 Mar 2021 13:54
33 games in the latest round of appointments on the PL and Championship, yet Robert Jones gets just 2 x 4O, and he's supposed to be one of the up-and-coming referees on the list. A poor return in my view.
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Ref Fan on Tue 09 Mar 2021 14:43
No Dean, Atkinson or Taylor in the middle? Wonder when the last time was that happened!

Taylor has a CL game tomorrow but no middle at weekend as you say.  Oliver on the other hand has a long trip to Kiev for the EL game Thursday and then back for the North London derby Sunday.  Not ideal I would have thought.  He showed signs of tiredness earlier in the season but has refereed well recently. Not checked Dean or Atkinson's recent appointments with Arsenal or Spurs and whether one of them could maybe have been at the Emirates instead of Oliver.

Like AT, I don't understand why Jones is so lacking in appointments
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: PDMat Shav on Tue 09 Mar 2021 16:00
No Dean, Atkinson or Taylor in the middle? Wonder when the last time was that happened!

Taylor has a CL game tomorrow but no middle at weekend as you say.  Oliver on the other hand has a long trip to Kiev for the EL game Thursday and then back for the North London derby Sunday.  Not ideal I would have thought.  He showed signs of tiredness earlier in the season but has refereed well recently. Not checked Dean or Atkinson's recent appointments with Arsenal or Spurs and whether one of them could maybe have been at the Emirates instead of Oliver.

Like AT, I don't understand why Jones is so lacking in appointments

It make you wonder why they have promoted Rob Jones, as he his not getting much opportunity to referee, there are to many favourites with Mike Riley, as his appointments show every week, and it his about time the appointments were evenly made. (edited to fix qoute-hertsref)
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: DublinRef on Tue 09 Mar 2021 16:31
Having watched a couple of Rob Jones' games this season in the PL I think (based on what I have seen) he is not performing overly well. Not such much in terms of KMI errors (although he has made a few) more so though in terms of his body language, player management and consistency in sanctions. However - it strikes me that this is most likely due to lack of experience at this level. The PGMOL (along with many on here) felt that he was an excellent referee worthy of promotion to SG1 therefore they must appoint him more frequently.

The dynamic they have created by appointing him so infrequently to the PL is one where he no doubt feels increased pressure to perform while also lacking in match fitness at that level. The combination in my mind is one likely to create a cycle of poorer performances and degrading confidence as time goes on.

I understand that a new referee has to be integrated carefully into the league with the right level of appointments both in terms of frequency and magnitude. I feel since what happened to Stuart Atwell the PGMOL have taken a stance of starting new referees off with the bare minimum of appointments and building them up very very slowly. I think while it is good that they have learned from the mistakes of Atwell being pushed too far too soon, they should also be aware that under appointing can hold pitfalls that can have an equally negative effect on a new official. 
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Readingfan on Tue 09 Mar 2021 16:54
Whilst sometimes a bit frustrating, I think the PGMO's approach with newly promoted referees ahs generally worked quite well in recent years. Very slow and steady to begin with and then gradually giving them more opportunities. Although whether that's an effective way to produce the next Clattenburg or Webb who knows.

I thought Jones was under-used in the first half of the season (especially conspiring he was meant to do a Chelsea V Southampton game and not sure how many appointments of that sort of level he's had since) but I'd also agree with Dublinref that he's not been refereeing as well this season as in the past (Leeds V Burnley a key example) and I think there's increased exposure/scrutiny this season because of every game being televised and generally in a unique slot from other PL games.  I think a run of crucial Champonship matches might be a sensible way of allowing him to hopefully build some confidence and momentum again before giving him some PL matches (maybe invovling the bigger teams when they don't have so much to play for) towards the end of the season.

Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Hendo on Tue 09 Mar 2021 18:27
Having watched a couple of Rob Jones' games this season in the PL I think (based on what I have seen) he is not performing overly well. Not such much in terms of KMI errors (although he has made a few) more so though in terms of his body language, player management and consistency in sanctions. However - it strikes me that this is most likely due to lack of experience at this level. The PGMOL (along with many on here) felt that he was an excellent referee worthy of promotion to SG1 therefore they must appoint him more frequently.

The dynamic they have created by appointing him so infrequently to the PL is one where he no doubt feels increased pressure to perform while also lacking in match fitness at that level. The combination in my mind is one likely to create a cycle of poorer performances and degrading confidence as time goes on.

I understand that a new referee has to be integrated carefully into the league with the right level of appointments both in terms of frequency and magnitude. I feel since what happened to Stuart Atwell the PGMOL have taken a stance of starting new referees off with the bare minimum of appointments and building them up very very slowly. I think while it is good that they have learned from the mistakes of Atwell being pushed too far too soon, they should also be aware that under appointing can hold pitfalls that can have an equally negative effect on a new official.

What an excellent post! 👏
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Hendo on Tue 09 Mar 2021 18:28
At least Simon Hooper is getting a game, Palace v WBA being one of the more obvious of the weekend's fixtures for him to referee.

Is that because it basically has very little resting on it?
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Jevontheref on Tue 09 Mar 2021 19:29
A nice weekend in the north-east for Andy Madley who has Newcastle as 4th Official on the Friday and Middlesbrough in the middle on Saturday
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Hendo on Thu 11 Mar 2021 22:03
A nice weekend in the north-east for Andy Madley who has Newcastle as 4th Official on the Friday and Middlesbrough in the middle on Saturday

And thankfully no VAR duties
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: referee12 on Sat 13 Mar 2021 13:08
Why promote England Jones and madley if they’re not going to get a decent run of prem appointments
Would be nice if Scott got back into prem contention some time in the future
Coote in championship which doesn’t happen very often
Title: Fa cup/premier league
Post by: referee12 on Sun 14 Mar 2021 13:07
I think all of the select group refs might all be involved due to the fa cup and premier league
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: 2ndcity95 on Sun 14 Mar 2021 13:27
Per premier league website.

Atkinson replaces Kavanaugh at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 14 Mar 2021 14:43
Per premier league website.

Atkinson replaces Kavanaugh at Old Trafford.

Why Atkinson- plenty of other referees to choose from!
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 14 Mar 2021 15:15
Per premier league website.

Atkinson replaces Kavanaugh at Old Trafford.

Why Atkinson- plenty of other referees to choose from!

Well he was due to be fourth official at that game, so it makes sense.
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Hendo on Sun 14 Mar 2021 16:07
Per premier league website.

Atkinson replaces Kavanaugh at Old Trafford.

Why Atkinson- plenty of other referees to choose from!

Well he was due to be fourth official at that game, so it makes sense.

.....and Lee Mason is injured 🤣 (edited to fix quote-hertsref)
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: GingerReferee on Sun 14 Mar 2021 16:40
Per premier league website.

Atkinson replaces Kavanaugh at Old Trafford.

Why Atkinson- plenty of other referees to choose from!

Well he was due to be fourth official at that game, so it makes sense.

And Craig Pawson as Fourth Official now.
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Adam_Higgins on Sun 14 Mar 2021 19:34
The very reliable Sky Sports commentator Rob Hawthorne says Kavanagh is self-isolating due to Covid-19.
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Hertsref123 on Sun 14 Mar 2021 19:41
Hope he gets better soon
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: DublinRef on Sun 14 Mar 2021 20:32
Best wishes to Chris for a speedy recovery.

Interesting that Pawson is the FO now - wasn't he beside Kavanagh in the VAR booth on Thursday?

Also - he still cannot seem to get that mask over his nose  ::)
Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: Readingfan on Mon 15 Mar 2021 22:37
Was Kavanagh part of Oliver's team in EL on Thursday or was he replaced?

I know Kavanagh was isolating last weekend so I'm not sure if he did the game on Thursday but has had to self-isolate again, or if he's been in isolation all along.

Title: Re: Fri 12th – Mon 15th MAR 2021
Post by: bmb on Mon 15 Mar 2021 23:05
Was Kavanagh part of Oliver's team in EL on Thursday or was he replaced?

I know Kavanagh was isolating last weekend so I'm not sure if he did the game on Thursday but has had to self-isolate again, or if he's been in isolation all along.



Still shows on the UEFA website as part of the team so I assume so.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/match/2029882--dynamo-kyiv-vs-villarreal/