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General Refereeing => Referee / Match Official Appointments => Select Group - Premier League => Topic started by: greeny on Thu 17 Dec 2020 22:17
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26th December
12.30 Leicester City v Manchester United
R - Mike Dean
ARs - Ian Hussin and Dan Robathan
4th - Rob Jones
VAR - Graham Scott
AVAR - Neil Davies
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace
R - Anthony Taylor
ARs - Adam Nunn and James Mainwaring
4th - Peter Bankes
VAR - Craig Pawson
AVAR - Simon Long
Fulham v Southampton
R - Darren England
ARs - Mark Scholes and Sian Massey-Ellis
4th - Simon Hooper
VAR - Jonathan Moss
AVAR - Timothy Wood
17.30 Arsenal v Chelsea
R - Michael Oliver
ARs - Stuart Burt and Simon Bennett
4th - Stuart Attwell
VAR - Paul Tierney
AVAR - Constantine Hatzidakis Stephen Child
20.00 Manchester City v Newcastle United
R - Andre Marriner
ARs - Scott Ledger and Richard West
4th - Andy Madley
VAR - Lee Mason
AVAR - Matthew Wilkes
20.00 Sheffield United v Everton
R - David Coote
ARs - Gary Beswick and Nick Hopton
4th - Martin Atkinson
VAR - Chris Kavanagh
AVAR - Andy Halliday
27th December
12.00 Leeds United v Burnley
R - Rob Jones
ARs - Darren Cann and Marc Perry Nick Greenhalgh
4th - Craig Pawson
VAR - Michael Oliver
AVAR - Andy Halliday
14.15 West Ham United v Brighton & Hove Albion
R - Simon Hooper
ARs - Eddie Smart Matthew Jones and Derek Eaton
4th - Lee Mason
VAR - Andy Madley
AVAR - Andy Halliday
16.30 Liverpool v West Bromich Albion
R - Kevin Friend
ARs - Simon Beck and Adrian Holmes
4th - Anthony Taylor
VAR - Martin Atkinson
AVAR - Peter Kirkup
19.15 Wolverhampton Wanderers v Tottenham Hotspur
R - Paul Tierney
ARs - Dan Cook and Harry Lennard
4th - Andre Marriner
VAR - David Coote
AVAR - Nick Hopton
28th December
Crystal Palace v Leicester City
R - Graham Scott
ARs - Peter Kirkup and Timothy Wood
4th - Dean Whitestone
VAR - Rob Jones
AVAR - Marc Perry Mark Scholes
17.30 Chelsea v Aston Villa
R - Stuart Attwell
ARs - Simon Long and Neil Davies
4th - Gavin Ward
VAR - Darren England
AVAR - Simon Bennett
20.00 Everton v Manchester City
R - Martin Atkinson
ARs - Lee Betts and Constantine Hatzidakis Edward Smart
4th - Chris Kavanagh
VAR - Mike Dean
AVAR - Darren Cann
29th December
18.00 Brighton & Hove Albion v Arsenal
R - Craig Pawson Martin Atkinson
ARs - Adam Nunn and Ian Hussin
4th - John Brooks
VAR - Anthony Taylor Stuart Attwell
AVAR - Stephen Child
18.00 Burnley v Sheffield United
R - Chris Kavanagh
ARs - Gary Beswick and Sian Massey-Ellis
4th - Michael Oliver
VAR - Peter Bankes
AVAR - Matthew Wilkes
18.00 Southampton v West Ham United
R - Andy Madley
ARs - Scott Ledger and Richard West
4th - Tim Robinson
VAR - Andre Marriner
AVAR - Timothy Wood
18.00 West Bromich Albion v Leeds United
R - Lee Mason
ARs - Mark Scholes and Nick Hopton
4th - Michael Salisbury
VAR - Kevin Friend
AVAR - Simon Beck
20.00 Manchester United v Wolverhampton Wanderers
R - Jonathan Moss
ARs - Marc Perry Simon Bennett and Dan Robathan
4th - Paul Tierney
VAR - Simon Hooper
AVAR - Derek Eaton
30th December
18.00 Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham
R - Peter Bankes
ARs - Dan Cook and James Mainwaring
4th - Anthony Taylor
VAR - David Coote
AVAR - Stephen Child
20.00 Newcastle United v Liverpool
R - Paul Tierney
ARs - Harry Lennard and Adrian Holmes
4th - Lee Mason
VAR - Stuart Attwell
AVAR - Stephen Child
1st January
17.30 Everton v West Ham United
R - Kevin Friend
ARs - Simon Beck and Eddie Smart
4th - Andy Madley
VAR - Simon Hooper
AVAR - Nick Hopton
20.00 Manchester United v Aston Villa
R - Michael Oliver
ARs - Stuart Burt and Simon Bennett
4th - Darren England
VAR - Paul Tierney
AVAR - Lee Betts
2nd January
12.30 Tottenham Hotspur v Leeds United
R - David Coote
ARs - Lee Betts and Nick Hopton
4th - Graham Scott
VAR - Paul Tierney
AVAR - Matthew Wilkes
Crystal Palace v Sheffield United
R - Stuart Attwell
ARs - Marc Perry Neil Davies and Peter Kirkup
4th - Keith Stroud
VAR - Andre Marriner
AVAR - Richard West
17.30 Brighton & Hove Albion v Wolverhampton Wanderers
R - Chris Kavanagh Andrew Madley
ARs - Dan Cook and Sian Massey-Ellis
4th - Dean Whitestone
VAR - Peter Bankes
AVAR - James Mainwaring
20.00 West Bromich Albion v Arsenal
R - Martin Atkinson
ARs - Constantine Hatzidakis Darren Cann and Harry Lennard
4th - Darren England
VAR - Jonathan Moss
AVAR - Stephen Child
3rd January
12.00 Burnley v Fulham
R - Craig Pawson
ARs - Ian Hussin and Dan Robathan
4th - Michael Oliver
VAR - Graham Scott
AVAR - Timothy Wood
14.15 Newcastle United v Leicester City
R - Rob Jones
ARs - Mark Scholes and Derek Eaton
4th - Martin Atkinson
VAR - Lee Mason
AVAR - Adrian Holmes
16.30 Chelsea v Manchester City
R - Anthony Taylor
ARs - Gary Beswick and Adam Nunn
4th - Peter Bankes
VAR - Mike Dean
AVAR - Darren Cann
4th January
20.00 Southampton v Liverpool
R - Andre Marriner
ARs - Scott Ledger and Simon Long
4th - Stuart Attwell
VAR - Andy Madley
AVAR - Stephen Child
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Including the fixtures this weekend, here is the spread of matches across the group
3 matches - Atkinson, Kavanagh, Marriner, pawson, Taylor, Tierney
2 matches - Attwell, Bankes, Coote, Dean, Friend, Jones, Mason, Moss, Oliver, Scott
1 match - England, Hooper, Madley
For VAR
4 - Tierney
3 - Coote, Hooper, Madley, Mason, Oliver
2 - Attwell, Bankes, Dean, England, Friend, Marriner, Moss, Scott
1 - Atkinson, Jones, Kavanagh, pawson, Taylor
Nothing for Jarred Gillett as VAR - who has a match in every round from Boxing Day to New Year in the Championship
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Rob jones involved in every leicester game - surely they could’ve mixed it up?
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Rob jones involved in every leicester game - surely they could’ve mixed it up?
You’re joking aren’t you- the appointment makers couldn’t organise a day out at a park!
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A very disappointing spread of appointments once again from the PL
Oliver with Arsenal for the 3rd time this season after having them against Wolves 4 matches ago.
Tierney with Spurs for 3rd time also, but first time on Wolves
Graham Scott refs Palace for the 3rd time this season - half of his games this season so far have been involving C Palace.
ATtwell with Chelsea again barely 2 weeks after doing their game against Wolves, and Pawson's 3rd Arsenal game - albeit first since October.
Madley back with a game at St Mary's - his last PL game was also a Southampton game against Sheffield United. He's had the same number of games as SImon Hooper which is absolutely disgraceful. For a FIFA referee to be involved in so few PL games is scandalous
3rd Everton game for Friend and Oliver refs M United again soon after doing the Sheffield United away game - 3 matchdays!
3rd Arsenal game already for Atkinson - 3 of their past 9 games he has refereed. ALso referees West Brom barely 2 weeks after doing their game against A Villa!
Marriner referees Southampton for the 3rd time this season
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I think too much is sometimes made of how quickly a referee has a team again but Atkinson doing West Brom V Villa and West Brom V Arsenal less than two weeks later (and same for Attwell with Chelsea), and Jones doing Newcastle in LC and then in league 10 days later isn't great.
I think Tierney only has two PL games. Surprised to see Coote and Mason with three VAR games as I think they're two of the weakest in that role, and not sure that's where Madley's strengths especially lie either.
Good to see Jones get two PL games. A shame that England and especially Madley don't have the same - Madley's a FIFA referee and has done perfectly fine this season from what I've seen so not sure why they're so reluctant to give him games.
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A very disappointing spread of appointments once again from the PL
Oliver with Arsenal for the 3rd time this season after having them against Wolves 4 matches ago.
This is an example of where I don't see a problem. Oliver did Arsenal in week 2 back in September and then refereed them against Wolves more than two months later, and now is doing what would normally be considered a big game (when Arsenal are doing a bit better!) a month or so after that. I think that's perfectly fine.
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According to the Premier League website, a couple of changes to assistants meaning SG2 assistants will be in PL action:
Steve Child replaces Constantine Hatzidakis as AVAR at Arsenal
Nick Greenhalgh replaces Marc Perry at Leeds
Matthew Jones (making his PL debut) replaces Ed Smart at West Ham
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Hopefully Nuno is happier with Paul Tierney for the match home to Spurs. Spurs are winless in their past 10 matches with Mr Tierney either in charge or on VAR (where he was for the 2-0 loss to Leicester last week) not a friend of my hapless Spurs side in those matches either....
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According to the Premier League website, a couple of changes to assistants meaning SG2 assistants will be in PL action:
Steve Child replaces Constantine Hatzidakis as AVAR at Arsenal
Nick Greenhalgh replaces Marc Perry at Leeds
Matthew Jones (making his PL debut) replaces Ed Smart at West Ham
Do you have any clue why this is?
edited to fix the quote thingamajigga, bmb.
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Good set of performances yesterday Saw Michael Oliver Match in full great performance both of the penalty decisions correct
Anthony Taylor saw most of and was defo a red second yellow
Darren England seemed to have a good game and same with David Coote
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Pity Rob Jones didn’t. Poor decision not to allow Burnley goal
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Which I suspect he will be aware of and feel pretty crap about
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For me even though its unfortunate I think it is the right decision to disallow it and he called it before the ball went anywhere near the goal
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Why did he blow the whistle. It was never a foul on the keeper. It was more a penalty the other way. Very poor refereeing.
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That is a fair point he should have let it play and let VAR involved
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The biggest problem for me is that he blew for a foul by Ben Mee on the goalkeeper, however, in actual fact the keeper had gone up and hit Mee in the back with his knee and the ball had not even reached either Mee or the keeper.
By the letter of the law it should have been a penalty at least.
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Why did he blow the whistle. It was never a foul on the keeper. It was more a penalty the other way. Very poor refereeing.
He blew because he thought that Mee had committed a foul - unfortunately the replays have shown that to be incorrect. Mistakes happen
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burnley manger not happy goal should have stood Jamie redknapp said he should have played on blew too early
I think rob jones might not get another game after his mixed performance in Leeds v burnley
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burnley manger not happy goal should have stood Jamie redknapp said he should have played on blew too early
I think rob jones might not get another game after his mixed performance in Leeds v burnley
The problem is that, if they don't give him more games, he will not progress. The game yesterday should be discussed by those in the upper echelons of officialdom, or whoever is responsible these days and Rob Jones should then be involved in a further discussion which should then help him to progress ---provided that he gets more appointments at this level.
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burnley manger not happy goal should have stood Jamie redknapp said he should have played on blew too early
I think rob jones might not get another game after his mixed performance in Leeds v burnley
If a 'mixed performance' was the criteria for not getting another game, no referee would ever be appointed again.
Anyway, he's refereeing Newcastle v Leicester at the weekend.
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Lots of reports saying Everton v City off due to new COVID cases in the Man City camp. If true, the Chelsea v City game must also be in danger.
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Lots of reports saying Everton v City off due to new COVID cases in the Man City camp. If true, the Chelsea v City game must also be in danger.
Yes, it is off.
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Lots of reports saying Everton v City off due to new COVID cases in the Man City camp. If true, the Chelsea v City game must also be in danger.
With the number of games off in the football league reaching worrying levels, if the PL is starting to follow suit I wonder how long it will be until more severe sanctions are drafted in....
That’s for our delightful politicians to decide.... ??? ???
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I would day that Everton v Man City is a game that would have been interesting to watch shame it’s off due to Covid
Chelsea v Man City a sort of big 6 fixture is now at risk of not happening due to Covid bad news for ideal viewing and bad news for sky
Let’s hope Rob Jones redeems himself and handles Newcastle v Leicester better than Burnley v Leeds
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Let’s hope Rob Jones redeems himself and handles Newcastle v Leicester better than Burnley v Leeds
Given Newcastle played Man City on Boxing day, and therefore potentially came into contact with the infected players / staff, you'd have to assume that one is in some doubt.
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There will have been and will continue to be fully inclusive discussions and guidance involving Rob after the game.
So far as I can recall this has been the first major "issue " Rob has encountered thus far.
With hindsight (great isn't it?), he got the penalty right and was hindered on the Burnley goal by blowing too soon, possibly due to inexperience of having VAR to help him out
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Let’s hope Rob Jones redeems himself and handles Newcastle v Leicester better than Burnley v Leeds
Given Newcastle played Man City on Boxing day, and therefore potentially came into contact with the infected players / staff, you'd have to assume that one is in some doubt.
Possibly, although I guess that it is true for any positive test - e.g. Arsenal played Man City in the Cup a few days before Walker/Jesus tested positive at Christmas and could still play on Saturday. I guess they will get test results before Wednesday.
Marriner, West, Ledger and Madley were the officials at Man City on Saturday and are due to officiate the Southampton V West Ham game tomorrow, so hopefully they will have all been tested beforehand.
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According to the Premier League website, Martin Atkinson has replace Craig Pawson as the referee for Brighton-Arsenal tonight
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He was due to referee west brom v arsenal in the next gameweek, so im geussing he'll be replaced on that.
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Or knowing Riley’s management, probably not!
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According to the Premier League website, Martin Atkinson has replace Craig Pawson as the referee for Brighton-Arsenal tonight
Is there a reason for this?
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According to the Premier League website, Martin Atkinson has replace Craig Pawson as the referee for Brighton-Arsenal tonight
Is there a reason for this?
No one will know that other than the officials and PGMOL. Changes can be made for a whole host of reasons such as injury, illness, personal problems, or of course in the current climate Covid related issues. With the weather issues it may well be they are also worried about travel, and as Atkinson was already in the South two days before on VAR duty they could have asked him to stay down to avoid Pawson having to travel down. Who knows though.
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According to the Premier League website, Martin Atkinson has replace Craig Pawson as the referee for Brighton-Arsenal tonight
Is there a reason for this?
No one will know that other than the officials and PGMOL. Changes can be made for a whole host of reasons such as injury, illness, personal problems, or of course in the current climate Covid related issues. With the weather issues it may well be they are also worried about travel, and as Atkinson was already in the South two days before on VAT duty they could have asked him to stay down to avoid Pawson having to travel down. Who knows though.
Craig is fine. That I can say.
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According to the Premier League website, Martin Atkinson has replace Craig Pawson as the referee for Brighton-Arsenal tonight
Is there a reason for this?
No one will know that other than the officials and PGMOL. Changes can be made for a whole host of reasons such as injury, illness, personal problems, or of course in the current climate Covid related issues. With the weather issues it may well be they are also worried about travel, and as Atkinson was already in the South two days before on VAR duty they could have asked him to stay down to avoid Pawson having to travel down. Who knows though.
However Martin would have been up in Merseyside yesterday preparing for the game yesterday
No?
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According to the Premier League website, Martin Atkinson has replace Craig Pawson as the referee for Brighton-Arsenal tonight
Is there a reason for this?
Atkinson has Arsenal again on Saturday at West Brom... I suspect that will have to change as well.
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Given they actually appointed Taylor to consecutive Everton games, 2 in 5 days, at the end of last season, I am not convinced they will make any changes for Atkinson.
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Tottenham v Fulham now off.
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I anticipate more as Tier 4 kicks in in 23 extra areas!
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I suspect the PL will carry on, just with games off here and there. They can only suspend it, or have this circuit break they are talking about, if all other European leagues do the same. It is scheduled to finish 23/05, Euro 2020(1) starts on 11/06, there simply isn't time for a two week break unless UEFA agree to move the Euros back.
Championship might be OK, but I can see below that being called off and potentially even scrapped again.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I am now starting to think we might have made a mistake restarting the season in June. Would have given the leagues more leeway this season had we started the season beginning of August
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I am now starting to think we might have made a mistake restarting the season in June. Would have given the leagues more leeway this season had we started the season beginning of August
It doesn't make much sense to me to have written off last season to try and get this one played in its entirety - especially as it wouldn't have been known (and still isn't) if that can be 100% be achieved. At least this season there has been the understanding that average points per game etc. could be used so people know what they're dealing with a bit more.
Perhaps they could consider delaying the FA Cup third round fixtures until next season, reducing the need for different teams from different leagues to mix, giving many teams a break on 3rd round weekend and giving a few more slots in the season for postponed games to be played. I doubt it will happen because of financial impact it would have for FA/broadcasting but I can imagine many 3rd round games having to be either postponed or forfeited (not entirely sure what the rules are.)
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I suspect the PL will carry on, just with games off here and there. They can only suspend it, or have this circuit break they are talking about, if all other European leagues do the same. It is scheduled to finish 23/05, Euro 2020(1) starts on 11/06, there simply isn't time for a two week break unless UEFA agree to move the Euros back.
Championship might be OK, but I can see below that being called off and potentially even scrapped again.
Everywhere else is now on their winter break so their leagues are not going anyway. We return from the winter break on 23rd Jan - well that's the scheduled date anyway. Very short winter break this season as we didn't finish until 23rd December.
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I suspect the PL will carry on, just with games off here and there. They can only suspend it, or have this circuit break they are talking about, if all other European leagues do the same. It is scheduled to finish 23/05, Euro 2020(1) starts on 11/06, there simply isn't time for a two week break unless UEFA agree to move the Euros back.
Championship might be OK, but I can see below that being called off and potentially even scrapped again.
Everywhere else is now on their winter break so their leagues are not going anyway. We return from the winter break on 23rd Jan - well that's the scheduled date anyway. Very short winter break this season as we didn't finish until 23rd December.
Not everywhere. Spain are playing through, Italy having a short break, France and Germany slightly longer. The point is the same though, if the scheduled start of the Euros stays the same none of the leagues have any wriggle room to put unscheduled breaks in. They would all have to get together and persuade UEFA to push it back.
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I suspect the PL will carry on, just with games off here and there. They can only suspend it, or have this circuit break they are talking about, if all other European leagues do the same. It is scheduled to finish 23/05, Euro 2020(1) starts on 11/06, there simply isn't time for a two week break unless UEFA agree to move the Euros back.
Championship might be OK, but I can see below that being called off and potentially even scrapped again.
Everywhere else is now on their winter break so their leagues are not going anyway. We return from the winter break on 23rd Jan - well that's the scheduled date anyway. Very short winter break this season as we didn't finish until 23rd December.
Not everywhere. Spain are playing through, Italy having a short break, France and Germany slightly longer. The point is the same though, if the scheduled start of the Euros stays the same none of the leagues have any wriggle room to put unscheduled breaks in. They would all have to get together and persuade UEFA to push it back.
That's why we finished late with rescheduled games from weeks 10 & 11. Still 3 more games carried over from autumn season to spring season, 2 scheduled for January, 1 not re-scheduled yet and we re-start at a time when the snow is normally at its worst, just to add weather into the mix! Our last scheduled week is 8th May, we only have 3 scheduled midweek rounds, out of the 17 left, but 5 rounds of cup games to fit in, which are normally midweek, 2 in Feb, 1 in march, 1 in April and the final 5th May. As you say - no wiggle room.
International break 20th & 27th March doesn't help either.
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Reading over social media and everyone is saying the Villa vs United game was won due to an error by VAR for the penalty but for me I think it is a defo penalty.
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Andy Madley has replaced Chris Kavanagh at Brighton
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And Craig Pawson has replaced Martin Atkinson at West Brom v Arsenal
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And Craig Pawson has replaced Martin Atkinson at West Brom v Arsenal
Also, Ian Hussin and Daniel Robathan replace Darren Cann and Harry Lennard on this match. Graham Scott also replaces Jon Moss as the Var. Michael Oliver replaces Darren England as fourth official and Tim Wood replaces Steven Child as Assistant VAR. Interestingly, Scott was fourth official for the Tottenham v Leeds game earlier in the day. Change all round!!
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And Craig Pawson has replaced Martin Atkinson at West Brom v Arsenal
Wonder when this change was made and if anyone else had been appointed to Burnley V Fulham tomorrow before it was postponed?
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Just seen an image of Martin Atkinson talking to Sam Allardyce and Mikel Arteta in the snow at three Hawthorns so I guess he’s still on the game!
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The same image also shows Lennard, Cann and England so guessing they are all still doing the West Brom v Arsenal game
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I’m confused.... lol.
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If all have been replaced why?
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They have not been replaced
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I don't know where few got the news of changes from but the Officials appointed still remains.
As I stated previously, even if they were replaced please stop asking for reason ::)
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The news of changes were on the Premier League website
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If all have been replaced why?
If they had have been replaced, then that info is not to be leaked, please stop asking in future.
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Saturday 2 January
WBA 21:00 ARS
Referee: Craig Pawson. Assistants: Ian Hussin, Dan Robathan. Fourth official: Michael Oliver. VAR: Graham Scott. Assistant VAR: Timothy Wood.
This is what the PL site says. Easy to be confused.
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Yes, it says about Pawson and co here - https://www.premierleague.com/news/1944208
It looks like what has happened is Burnley V Fulham has been removed due to postponement and they've somehow deleted the West Brom V Arsenal list of officials isntead of Burnley V Fulham (as the line-up they had down for West Brom is the same from the postponed game.)
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If all have been replaced why?
If they had have been replaced, then that info is not to be leaked, please stop asking in future.
Sorry I meant to agree - not disagree :/
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If all have been replaced why?
If they had have been replaced, then that info is not to be leaked, please stop asking in future.
OK sorry just wondered if you guys knew but thanks for clearing it up
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Yes, it says about Pawson and co here - https://www.premierleague.com/news/1944208
It looks like what has happened is Burnley V Fulham has been removed due to postponement and they've somehow deleted the West Brom V Arsenal list of officials isntead of Burnley V Fulham (as the line-up they had down for West Brom is the same from the postponed game.)
They need to use VAR to sort out it out and give a bit of clarity! ;D
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If all have been replaced why?
If they had have been replaced, then that info is not to be leaked, please stop asking in future.
OK sorry just wondered if you guys knew but thanks for clearing it up
Its ok no worries
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If all have been replaced why?
If they had have been replaced, then that info is not to be leaked, please stop asking in future.
Sorry I meant to agree - not disagree :/
haha no worries its easily done, i just clicked modify instead of reply just now on your post, so im not doing any better :)
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Will the premier league be able to fit all of the postponed Covid games as well as the early rearranged games in which involved Man Utd and city as this probably might be a long season especially if we have any more Covid postponements in the future if you know what I mean
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What we can say is that they'll almost certainly have fewer problems than other levels of the game given their comparatively low number of Covid postponements and the size of the division. But this probably won't dissuade them from behaving as if it's all about them.
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The 2 postponed games from the start of the season involving Man City and Man United have been slotted into the 2 midweek rounds coming up.
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The 2 postponed games from the start of the season involving Man City and Man United have been slotted into the 2 midweek rounds coming up.
In place of other fixtures that were already there and which will now have to be rearranged themselves, such as Liverpool v Burnley and Man U v Fulham.
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I assume the Premier League are hoping/praying that any club still involved in Europe are knocked out of the FA Cup as soon as possible to help alleviate any further potential congestion.
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The 2 postponed games from the start of the season involving Man City and Man United have been slotted into the 2 midweek rounds coming up.
In place of other fixtures that were already there and which will now have to be rearranged themselves, such as Liverpool v Burnley and Man U v Fulham.
No, Burnley V Man Utd is 12th Jan - the other two games are 20th/21st Jan.
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I assume the Premier League are hoping/praying that any club still involved in Europe are knocked out of the FA Cup as soon as possible to help alleviate any further potential congestion.
They tend to play their kids in the cup games anyway don't they?
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The 2 postponed games from the start of the season involving Man City and Man United have been slotted into the 2 midweek rounds coming up.
In place of other fixtures that were already there and which will now have to be rearranged themselves, such as Liverpool v Burnley and Man U v Fulham.
No, Burnley V Man Utd is 12th Jan - the other two games are 20th/21st Jan.
Yes, because on the original fixture lists, they (Liverpool v Burnley and Fulham v Man U) were on 12th/13th Jan, as there was a full Premier League programme in that midweek, as per the 2020/21 Football Yearbook (ex-Rothmans).
But now some games have been put back a week to accommodate the rearranged Man U & Man C fixtures.
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TVOS- not exactly true. The Liverpool vs Burnley game was moved by tv 2 weeks before the announcement of the Burnley vs Man Utd game. It was because of that move the rearranged game could be slotted in after Utd went to the PL to tell them that we both had a spare mid week. Burnley vs Fulham will be played on one of the nights of the CL or if both teams go out the fa cup I’d imagine.
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Will the premier league be able to fit all of the postponed Covid games as well as the early rearranged games in which involved Man Utd and city as this probably might be a long season especially if we have any more Covid postponements in the future if you know what I mean
The affected teams will just need to play three games a week if push comes to shove. Not ideal, but there is no other option with the Euros looming.
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TVOS- not exactly true. The Liverpool vs Burnley game was moved by tv 2 weeks before the announcement of the Burnley vs Man Utd game. It was because of that move the rearranged game could be slotted in after Utd went to the PL to tell them that we both had a spare mid week. Burnley vs Fulham will be played on one of the nights of the CL or if both teams go out the fa cup I’d imagine.
... which is why I quoted the Football Yearbook, published in September, with the fixtures as they were back then.
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TVOS- not exactly true. The Liverpool vs Burnley game was moved by tv 2 weeks before the announcement of the Burnley vs Man Utd game. It was because of that move the rearranged game could be slotted in after Utd went to the PL to tell them that we both had a spare mid week. Burnley vs Fulham will be played on one of the nights of the CL or if both teams go out the fa cup I’d imagine.
... which is why I quoted the Football Yearbook, published in September, with the fixtures as they were back then.
Burnley V Man Utd and Man City V Aston Villa have had no impact on that though, and have not forced any game to be rescheduled as the rest of the fixtures were scheduled first.
It was announced right from the start of the season that that would be a split midweek (replacing the split weekend from last season to allow a winter break) with half the fixtures being played midweek beginning 11th Jan and the other half week bkginning 18th Jan, which is what was announced in early December (e.g. Leicester V Chelsea is Tues 19th Jan with neither side having any games in hand.)
Man City V Brighton and Aston Villa V Tottenham were scheduled for the first split midweek and so the 'extra' game between Man City v Aston Villa has been put into the free slot on the second split midweek.
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TVOS- not exactly true. The Liverpool vs Burnley game was moved by tv 2 weeks before the announcement of the Burnley vs Man Utd game. It was because of that move the rearranged game could be slotted in after Utd went to the PL to tell them that we both had a spare mid week. Burnley vs Fulham will be played on one of the nights of the CL or if both teams go out the fa cup I’d imagine.
... which is why I quoted the Football Yearbook, published in September, with the fixtures as they were back then.
Burnley V Man Utd and Man City V Aston Villa have had no impact on that though, and have not forced any game to be rescheduled as the rest of the fixtures were scheduled first.
It was announced right from the start of the season that that would be a split midweek (replacing the split weekend from last season to allow a winter break) with half the fixtures being played midweek beginning 11th Jan and the other half week bkginning 18th Jan, which is what was announced in early December (e.g. Leicester V Chelsea is Tues 19th Jan with neither side having any games in hand.)
Man City V Brighton and Aston Villa V Tottenham were scheduled for the first split midweek and so the 'extra' game between Man City v Aston Villa has been put into the free slot on the second split midweek.
This is hard work!
Throughout this, I have constantly referred to my post being based on what is printed in the ex-Rothmans Yearbook, published in September. I'm looking at it now as I type.
There is no mention there of a split midweek, so since I don't follow the Premier League closely, that's news to me, but thanks for the heads up.
Any announcement in December is after the printing of the reference book I've mentioned and which I was looking at when I initially posted!!
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TVOS- not exactly true. The Liverpool vs Burnley game was moved by tv 2 weeks before the announcement of the Burnley vs Man Utd game. It was because of that move the rearranged game could be slotted in after Utd went to the PL to tell them that we both had a spare mid week. Burnley vs Fulham will be played on one of the nights of the CL or if both teams go out the fa cup I’d imagine.
... which is why I quoted the Football Yearbook, published in September, with the fixtures as they were back then.
Burnley V Man Utd and Man City V Aston Villa have had no impact on that though, and have not forced any game to be rescheduled as the rest of the fixtures were scheduled first.
It was announced right from the start of the season that that would be a split midweek (replacing the split weekend from last season to allow a winter break) with half the fixtures being played midweek beginning 11th Jan and the other half week bkginning 18th Jan, which is what was announced in early December (e.g. Leicester V Chelsea is Tues 19th Jan with neither side having any games in hand.)
Man City V Brighton and Aston Villa V Tottenham were scheduled for the first split midweek and so the 'extra' game between Man City v Aston Villa has been put into the free slot on the second split midweek.
This is hard work!
Throughout this, I have constantly referred to my post being based on what is printed in the ex-Rothmans Yearbook, published in September. I'm looking at it now as I type.
There is no mention there of a split midweek, so since I don't follow the Premier League closely, that's news to me, but thanks for the heads up.
Any announcement in December is after the printing of the reference book I've mentioned and which I was looking at when I initially posted!!
I’d quite while you are ah ad TVOS!
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TVOS- not exactly true. The Liverpool vs Burnley game was moved by tv 2 weeks before the announcement of the Burnley vs Man Utd game. It was because of that move the rearranged game could be slotted in after Utd went to the PL to tell them that we both had a spare mid week. Burnley vs Fulham will be played on one of the nights of the CL or if both teams go out the fa cup I’d imagine.
... which is why I quoted the Football Yearbook, published in September, with the fixtures as they were back then.
Burnley V Man Utd and Man City V Aston Villa have had no impact on that though, and have not forced any game to be rescheduled as the rest of the fixtures were scheduled first.
It was announced right from the start of the season that that would be a split midweek (replacing the split weekend from last season to allow a winter break) with half the fixtures being played midweek beginning 11th Jan and the other half week bkginning 18th Jan, which is what was announced in early December (e.g. Leicester V Chelsea is Tues 19th Jan with neither side having any games in hand.)
Man City V Brighton and Aston Villa V Tottenham were scheduled for the first split midweek and so the 'extra' game between Man City v Aston Villa has been put into the free slot on the second split midweek.
This is hard work!
Throughout this, I have constantly referred to my post being based on what is printed in the ex-Rothmans Yearbook, published in September. I'm looking at it now as I type.
There is no mention there of a split midweek, so since I don't follow the Premier League closely, that's news to me, but thanks for the heads up.
Any announcement in December is after the printing of the reference book I've mentioned and which I was looking at when I initially posted!!
I’d quite while you are ah ad TVOS!
I am doing! Might boil my head instead.